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Interesting Facts

z28manz28man Posts: 3
edited March 5 in Volkswagen
Post any interesting facts you know about classic cars. Something like - the flat-6 Corvair engine rotates "backwards" so many people when they put it in a Beetle or a dune buggy project ended up with 4 reverse gears and one forward gear
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  • z28manz28man Posts: 3
    Many people know that the Austin-Healey Sprite MkII and MG Midget MkI are the same badged engineered car based off the MkI Sprite. But less people know that Healey re-styled the front part and MG re-styled the rear

    The North American MG Midget had three window wipers because of legislation on swept area
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,064
    The MGC was supposed to have the Healey name on it, but Donald Healey pulled out as he didn't like the MGC at all.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,643
    Early VWs(Beetles) had a little arm that flipped out of the B pillar when the turn signal was activated. It had a small bulb in it that blinked. They had no gas gauges but if you ran out. you could pull a lever under the dash and access a "reserve" supply of about 1/2 gallon.

    --FIAT and Ferrari Dinos had the same V6 engine designed by Ferrari but made by FIAT.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,064
    I think the 2.0 Liter V6 was Ferrari-built(1966-68) because Ferrari collaborated with Fiat in order to homologate the engine for Formula 2. But the later 2.4 Liter engine in the 1969 Fiat Dino was a cast iron block from the Fiat 130, which is when Fiat took over Ferrari more or less.

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  • vwracervwracer Posts: 90
    coffee and motor oil are the two most tested fluids on earth involving scientific researce
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,064
    Eating through his grief after being robbed of the Presidency I suspect. Well, he can trim down for the next election.

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  • speedshiftspeedshift Posts: 1,598
    Sorry, Shifty, I thought better of that post and deleted it. I figured I'd either a) get flamed by a Democrat or b) be warned by the host to stay on topic. But since b) apparently won't happen, I'll repost it:

    Speaking of useless but interesting car facts, remember when Clinton's dog Buddy was run over? Turns out Al Gore can't account for his whereabouts at the time of the event.

    Of course, Al's gotten so big he wouldn't necessarily need a car to run over something.

    Hey I voted for the guy.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,754
    Actually those old VW's had a lever on the floor that you moved with your foot for the reserve tank.

    And...guess what happened if you forgot to move it back when you filled your tank?

    Yep! No reserve and you coasted to a stop!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,064
    I always thought that little handle was a great idea. I wonder why they don't have that on modern cars? I've love to put in one of those garden hose gate valves in the floor of my Mercedes Diesel.

    Interesting fact: Diesels need an automatic fuel shutoff device of some sort to stop the engine, since there is no ignition system to turn off. Most are shut off by engine vacuum (or lack thereof).

    Also, diesel engines can run backwards, and do accidentally, occasionally. The exhaust comes out the air filter and the tail pipe takes in fresh air.

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  • speedshiftspeedshift Posts: 1,598
    I have days like that too.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,643
    Inventor of the Bricklin Safety Sports Car of the '70s was the original importer of Subarus. He brought in a little skate called the Subaru 360in the early'70s. That's 360 has in 360cc or 0.3
    liters, smaller than most motorcycle engines.
    Then he went on to become the importer of the Yugo. Last I heard he was working on electric bicycles. Would you buy a used car (or a new bike) from this man?

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • speedshiftspeedshift Posts: 1,598
    Who was that man who became a woman, or always was a woman, or was it the other way around, who also came out with a sports car during the '70s?
  • rea98drea98d Posts: 982
    Micheal Jackson?
  • ghuletghulet Posts: 2,628
    Marketed by Liz Carmichael, who looked like a big ol' drag queen. IIRC, the 'company' built one or two prototypes, then Liz basically bailed with all the investors money.
  • That's because he/she was a big old drag queen.
  • The Morris Oxford (I think that's the one) has the same type of turn signal that comes out of the B-pillar. I saw several when I was living in New Zealand.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,643
    Were brought out by the old Rootes Group when someone inspired by the new Cobra asked Shelby to help them shoehorn a Fairlane 260 V8 into their previously lackluster Sunbeam Alpine sports car. It was sold for several years as the Sunbeam Tiger with "powered by Ford" badges.
    It was quite fast compared to MG-Bs Triumphs and Healey's of the era.
    Then Chrysler Corp. bought the Rootes group and found itself selling a sports car built around a Ford motor.
    This went on for a year or so before the stocks were sold off. Evidentally no current Chrysler motor could be made to fit and the Tiger was killed. It was the last of a line of Sunbeam sports cars going back to the 30s. Chrysler ended up walking away from Rootes and sold it to PSA(Puegeot-Citroen)in the 70s.
    Among the names associated with Rootes were Hillman, Talbot and Sunbeam.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • andre1969andre1969 Posts: 22,011
    ...that'd make sense, because the smallest Mopar V-8 back then was the LA block, which started as the 273, then later sprang 318, 340, and 360 variants. Even though it was a smallblock, it still dwarfed the Ford smallblock, and the Chevy smallblock too, in sheer bulk. Kind of a shame though...I'm sure one of those things would've been really hairy with a 340 6-pack!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,064
    It was hairy enough with the Ford. The Tiger is a car you steer with the gas pedal.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,064
    No two countries with McDonald's franchises have ever gone to war.

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  • speedshiftspeedshift Posts: 1,598
    Not if draft boards test for cholesterol.
  • ...When was the last two democracies went to war?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,064
    I don't know any real democracries. What we seem to have is representative democracies (a practical necessity) , in theory, that deteriorate quickly into systems with dull, robotic, weak figurehead leaders who have no great democratic powers or vision, but are actually ruled by oligarchy (power of the few). Sort of an "unelected council of elders". Real democracy is VERY risky.

    But if you mean "non-totalitarian states" warring, it's been a while. Probably Greece and Turkey in the 60s/70s. India and Pakistan may be next. I dunno for sure. Interesting question. Very hazy, though, if you put the microscope to it. I think the McDonald's analogy is just as valid.

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  • "....and to the REPUBLIC for which it stands."
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,064
    I guess the last real "horizontal democracy" was a long time ago (i.e., people go directly to rulers) when societies were smaller). Then we went to "vertical democracies" where you petition someone higher up the ladder who petitions someone higher up the ladder, etc.

    "Republic" does sound more like pre-Caesar Rome, doesn't it? Madison wanted this type of government, rule by the special few, and Jefferson wanted the people to be sovereign in all matters I think.

    McDonalds' of course, answers to McDonald's. We don't get to vote on their fat content except I guess by boycott.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,643
    An interesting car fact I came across by way of CAR Magazine (from Britain):

    America's #1 selling car, the Toyota Camry is a poor seller in Europe, not even in the top 20.
    Camry's have very poor resale in Europe. CAR says they have "savage depreciation."

    Conversely Europe's favorite car the VW GOLF is a poor seller in the USA and is even outsold here by it's sibling JETTA. In Europe the BORA (identical to the JETTA)is far out sold by other VW models.

    Obviously there is a huge gap in tastes between American consumers and their European counterparts
    which tells a lot about why FIAT, Peugeot, Renault
    etc were driven from the shores.

    It goes without saying that there are virtually no Ford F Series or an other pickups on the streets of Europe.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,064
    For good reason. Too big and too gas hungry.

    In Europe, diesel fuel is considerably cheaper than regular gas. In the USA diesel fuel prices are pegged to premium fuel prices. Go figure.

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  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,643
    I believe the excessive number of heavy trucks on American roads enables oil cos to price diesel as high as gas. In Europe they move heavy freight by rail, not trucks.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,643
    When the first wave of "compact" GM cars hit the streets in the early 60s, GM spiced the lineup with Turbocharged versions of thwe Olds F-85 and the Corvair Monza. I believe these were the only turbo motors available in the US market at the time, import or domestic. They didn't stay on the market for long. Once the Buick-Olds aluminum
    block V-8 became available consumers did not see the advantages of the turbo 4 and they were quietly dropped.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • carnut4carnut4 Posts: 574
    As I remember, the only other turbo at the time [American, anyway] besides the aluminum Olds V8 was the Corvair turbo 6. Is this what you meant, or was there some turbo 4 I never heard of?
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