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  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Good suggestion Greener1.

    I've had 3 base Caravans since 1996 as company cars...never a single problem and ran up about 80k miles on each one before getting the next.

    I have a 2005 GC SXT with "Stow 'n Go' now as my personal vehicle and very happy with it.

    With all the rebates, financing etc...they're hard to beat.
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Just remember the base Caravan SE has a 4 cyl engine and not much more luggage space behind 3rd row than a KIA Sedona but will burn much less fuel than the Sedona.
    Dodge uses the base Caravan SE as a price leader to get people in the door. Most switch to either a Caravan SXT that is much nicer or a Grand Caravan to get more leg room for 2nd and 3rd row passengers plus more luggage space.
    Most Americans will not buy something that is cheaper than their neighbor's vehicle which is the main reason the base Caravan SE and KIA Sedona do not sell in much higher numbers.
  • 00boxsters00boxsters Posts: 202
    Great suggestions and feedback everyone. We go to the Bonita Springs area so I will check into Maroone. I am a bit leery about chrysler and their quality rep though.

    I checked the invoice on a 2005 Dodge and they are listed as 17,250!
  • greener1greener1 Posts: 37
    the couple were looking for something reliable and economical, these base vans are a 4 cyl. with the SAME horsepower as the 6 cyl. 3.3 engine, the only differnece is in torque, if u haul a boat, etc., u might notice it a little bit, i have driven my 1999 4 cyl base a lot of miles with no problems, in fact one does not even know there is a 4 cyl in there, very responsive, easy to pass, etc., as i said earlier, for the dollar one cannot beat the reliability and cost of the base van IF they are looking for something reasonable, and a couple miles per gallon more than the 3.3, with gas at the price it is now, if one wants to show off a little, get the DC limited at TWICE the price new, and worth almost the same at the end of 6-7 years
  • craigmricraigmri Posts: 243
    But Steve....I dont see the Oddly Van on this list?

    Top minivans

    Minivans that received top rating in federal crash tests:
    1. Nissan Quest
    2. Dodge Grand Caravan
    3. Kia Sedona
    4. Mazda MPV
    5. Chrysler Town & Country*
    *Long-wheel base model
    Source: National Highway Traffic Safety Administration

    Must be a conspiracy!

    '04 Sedona EX
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,049
    It's there. I think you must still be looking at the other article I posted in the Sedona, Quest and MPV boards, which just talked about the latest round of crash tests.

    Steve, Host
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    Probably just too new, and will be tested soon
  • 97xpresso97xpresso Posts: 249
    I agree that if it is going to be used as "vacation home" vehicle, the 4 cyl. base Caravan would be an excellent choice. That being said, you can't compare the 180 HP 3.3 to the 150 HP 2.4, except that the gas milage is almost identical.
  • badgerfanbadgerfan Posts: 1,564
    With a vehicle that you are only going to use 8-12 weeks of the year, I would think a late model used minivan would make much more economic sense.

    Your biggest problem with a vehicle that is going to have little use is will be keeping the battery charged, and your reliability issues will likely stem more from the vehicle sitting unused for long periods, not the brand of vehicle.

    Actually when you look at the economics of it, you might be better off renting a vehicle every time you need it. Then no annual insurance payments, no annual license fees, etc, and the maintenance issues are gone as well.
  • davenowdavenow Posts: 171
    excellent points badgerfan! You score big!... at least someone here is trying to save a little bit of cashola!! :)
  • 00boxsters00boxsters Posts: 202
    Good point!

    A Dodge Caravan (6 cylinder) picked up and dropped off at the airport from Enterprise for one week is $320 (just checked on-line). *update* after April the price goes to $496/wk through December 05.**

    If it was used for 12 weeks and worst senerio with no coupons/deals thats $3840/yr. No maintainence and I think my AMEX card covers rental insurance. Drop off and pick up at the Fort Myers airport is a nice convience too (included in above price).

    If I did that for four years however I could nearly buy one? Certainly a used one. Availability of a Minivan every time may be an issue too from the rental company.

    (I use a cigarette lighter trickler charger now for my Boxster-S during the winter months and it works great for the battery.)
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,049
    Honest, the Odyssey (with SAB) is on the chart. All 5 stars, except the rollover (4), and the driver's side door came open during the test, so the 5 star rating got an asterisk.

    Steve, Host
  • dennisctcdennisctc Posts: 1,168
    List ONE feature/thing that really drives you crazy about your Minivan. AND NO wimpy "My minivan is soo perfect, it drives me nuts finding any faults" responses. No minivan is perfect....I can go to any of the chat forums and find many complaints.

    2005 DC SXT - Why in the @&#%^!@ aren't all the window switches lighted? DCX went thru the effort (designing a special switch and running power to it) to put an LED for the driver's window but NOT the rest of them?????
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    Just ONE feature? I've got two items regarding our new Odyssey EX-L:

    1. I can understand the need for the lazy susan to not spin when the lid is closed (contents need to be secure while vehicle is in motion). And when you open up the BIG lid from the 2nd row area, then the lazy susan is unlocked and can turn freely. BUT, when you open up the little hatch in the big lid (accessed from the front row area), the lazy susan is NOT free to turn. If whatever it is you are hunting for through the little hatch is not immediately under your hand, you're out of luck. Design screwup IMO.

    2. There is a plastic cover over the guide rail for the 2nd row passenger seat (the guide rail which the seat slides on to go from the right hand to the center position). The plastic cover must be removed before the seat can be slid over. Okay, fine. But the plastic cover can't be removed unless the seat is first LIFTED UP COMPLETELY OFF of the guide rail. So to move the seat, one must first lift it completely up, remove the plastic cover, put the seat back down on the guide rail, and THEN slide it over. Needless to say, I think the plastic cover when find a new home in the trash can if I have to move the seat with any regularity.
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,677
    Why not start a new discussion for this conversation? It's not really about minivan shopping, but more like, "what I don't like about my minivan."

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  • mrblonde49mrblonde49 Posts: 626
    The unlit switches are also my biggest gripe with my 04 T&C. Seems almost everything on the left hand side of the steering wheel is unlit
  • hansiennahansienna Posts: 2,312
    Just read the Edmund's preview of the 2006 Sedona which is lighter, more powerful, and even the base LX comes standard with tri-zone climate control.
    To get tri-zone climate control in a Sienna, one has to pay well over $30,000.
  • Does anyone explain why the 2005 Sienna has a 4 star front driver side crash rating while the 2004 Sienna has a 5 star rating for the same:

    Head Injury Criterion: 473 (2005) vs. 370 (2005).
    Chest Deceleration 45 (2005) vs. 39 (2005)
    Femur Load 829/774 (2005) vs. 635/890 (2004)
  • SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
    You might want to re-post your question in the main Toyota Sienna discussion where the Sienna crowd and enthusiasts gather and talk.
  • daddyddaddyd Posts: 22
    Maybe the chrysler 300C would fall into that category....Mazda 3's are holding up fairly decent as well...
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