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Subaru Baja

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    We burned some kids tunes on an Imation blank CD-R and it goes to the next CD just fine.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Not a bad review, but they said nothing about how it drives.

    -juice
  • hylndr61hylndr61 Posts: 51
    I noticed that the image gallery has been updated to include "Production" photos of the Baja. The selection includes shots of the truck in both black and silverstone. The body cladding really stands out on the black and the silverstone seems too bland for my taste. I recently read an article on the Autoweek website reporting that Chevrolet is eliminating the body cladding on the 2003 Avalanche in order to "expand the appeal". Will Subaru follow?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I had thought they would, given Lutz hates cladding, but the Baja came out well after Lutz joined GM. Subaru has been fiercely independent, which is bad sometimes, but mostly good.

    -juice
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    2,400 pounds. Who won the "pool"?

    -Dennis
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I lost, I had predicted no change from the Outback.

    -juice
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Is that with MT AT or both?

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I bet it's for the MT, though I'm not sure if they stated it specifically.

    -juice
  • hylndr61hylndr61 Posts: 51
    The Baja website (subarubaja.com) lists vehicle and accessory pricing under "Order your Baja" Great value IMO.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    WOW!

    That is a LOT less than we expected! We were forecasting about $26-28k, right?

    That bodes well for when the H6 arrives, it just might be the cheapest way to get that engine.

    -juice
  • hylndr61hylndr61 Posts: 51
    Smart pricing on the Baja. It will be better able to compete against the Honda Element ($16,000-$22,000) when it debuts in December. They will share the same target buyer.
  • I agree with squiredogs regarding the length. 75 inches is correct? Subaru emailed me back to say they didn't know. I'm just trying to figure out if I can move my rowboat like I can now in a small pick-up with the gate down. The boat is 12' X 4'. I called 2 dealers to no avail. They didn't know much about it at all. Hope I don't have to buy a pick-up. I'm accustomed to my '88 GL-10 which handles great! (I tie the boat to the roof, but it's not easy).

    Baja pricing ($23,995 base) is a bit pricey to me since I will also have to add the necessary accessories. I figured more like 20K my friend payed for the Forester.
  • I recieved this email from subaru answering my 7.5 ft vs. 75 inch question:

    The first specification for the '03 Baja announced in the 1/7/02 press
    release was:

    Lowering the tailgate and attaching the Subaru accessory bed extender
    lengthens the bed to nearly 7.5 feet.

    The above specification was preliminary and subject to change and is now:

    Lowering the tailgate and attaching the Subaru accessory bed extender
    lengthens the bed to 60.5 inches. Lowering the rear seat and Switchback
    cargo bed door can then provide a maximum load floor length of about 75
    inches for carrying long items.

    I have been advised that the final spec. above (75 in.) is the final
    specification for the '03 Baja. Your comments and disappointment have been
    forwarded to our Product Planning Department for their review. Best
    wishes!!

    John J. Mergen
    Subaru of America, Inc.

    So I was pretty dissapointed. I can get better at riding a shortboard, or just let a few more feet of my board stick out and drive carefully. Then the great news about the fair pricing! I was between this truck and an AWD Pontiac Vibe w/my $2000 GM rebate. I think I will still go for the Baja I reserved, but I will end up leasing as to be ready for the improvements/corrections/GM clones a few years from now.

    If I get the AT, bd extender, and the light thing on the rack, what would the MSRP be? I can't access the Baja site from my crummy old Macintosh. Can anyone help me out by checking?

    Thanks
    Dan
  • hylndr61hylndr61 Posts: 51
    Base MSRP- $23,995
    Automatic Transmission- $800
    Bed Extender- $250
    Cargo Area Spotlight (?)- $65

    You may need the latest version of Macromedia Flash (free download) to get the website to work properly. I have had some problems with the site as well.
  • hylndr61hylndr61 Posts: 51
    Forgot the destination charge of $525
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    Get a "fun board" or hybrid. ;-) Perfect compromise!

    Also, wouldn't a pick-up type surf rack help?

    Found this with a search:

    http://content.surfline.com/sw/content/surfline/surfingGirl/gear/features/surf_racks.jsp

    Check out the Da Kine pick-up pad. I couldn't find it on their web site though. Maybe because they're updating their product line.

    -Dennis
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    You can't post that up, you are promoting a competitor to Edmunds on here! Bad Bad Boy!

    -mike
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    they're only referring to links that have message forums. I don't think(?) that this link has that feature. Although, just mentioning it, does "promote" it...

    Bob
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Over in the "ask the hosts" they seem to feel that any links that promote competitiors to Edmunds is a violation. I'd think that since that site does reviews like edmunds does, that a link like that would also be in violation! Communists over here!

    -mike
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Posts: 1,676
    Hi all! Well, I got to put the Baja through its paces this past weekend. We had a lot of fun. It was Baja yellow so that may have contributed to the amount of attention it got, but it is different looking so who knows.

    When I first drove it, I was a bit surprised by the lack of surprise. It road just like a 2.5 Legacy Outback. I realized that I didn't have enough to offer a fair comparison so, I went on a mission. I drove my Father-in Law's Ford truck for a bit. Then, I borrowed a friends Avalance. One more turn in another friends Chevy truck (sorry - forgot the model but it was the little pick-up). Then, back to the Baja. I really appreciated the smooth car feel.

    The control on tight turns at a good clip was very good. Very responsive steering, but, if you've driven an Outback, you'll know what I mean.

    The rear seat holds two adults comfortably. The center console with two cup holders and a small compartment for storage was very nice for the girls that were traveling with me, but some folks might miss having a center seat space.

    This model had the accessory gate extension in the bed. I used it a few times. I asked the girls to "load it up with as much as you can". In went 5 suitcases, a vacuum, a large cooler, 3 large moving boxes and misc. bags full of clothing and anything else they could find. Then we drove around again. It still had a wonderful ride. The license plate came down very easily with pushing two small buttons.

    I'll have to check out the measurements you want for the length of the bed. However, with the gate up, 4 thirteen year old girls put their pillows in the bed and stared up at the stars very comfortably side by side.

    The most fun was the looks that we got. With the rear gate down, you cannot see the name of the vehicle and the manufacturer. We kept hearing (sometimes shouting down the road) "What is it" and "cool car". One child riding on a bike down the street yelled "Whoa - check it out!! Let's catch it". According to the girls, he was kind of cute, so I slowed down for them to check it out.

    A casual survey of the "viewers" had me convinced that this is a vehicle for younger folks. Over 65 just did not like it (so I thought). 45 to 65 liked it, but not the color.

    Well - wrong! I gave brochures to a very varied age group. My OLDER brother has decided that he wants to buy one right away (yellow!!!) and my Father-in-Law is trading in his truck ASAP.

    The drive was great. It wasn't a 5-speed, so I had to get used to an automatic transmission, but it was a nice break from shifting all of the time.

    The power was sufficient and I was able to pass other vehicles with a full load without a problem. Would I prefer a 6 cylinder - yes - that's just me. However, my wallet prefers the 4 cylinder. I got incredible gas mileage. I can't post what I got because it is information that the EPA needs to confirm and I don't want it to appear that I'm touting a number that they will not get. I will say that it was better than any of the test vehicles I have driven over the past 3 years. NOTE: I have driven two WRX 5 speeds and one LL Bean 6 cylinder so it may be average for other 2.5 engine drivers.

    Make sure you test drive one as soon as you can. The smiles and questions you get from other drivers will help you have a better day!

    Patti
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    It will indeed be very interesting as to who buys this vehicle. I still think it will have a strong appeal to the Harry & Harriet Homeowners, empty-nesters, and to gardeners—but only after the word gets out, and not in yellow.

    Does yours have the optional roof lights? Frankly, I don't care for them. They seem rather pretentious, IMO.

    I understand a hard bed cover is in the works, but won't be available until sometime later. Any word on that feature?

    Bob
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Posts: 1,676
    No, no roof lights on this one. I haven't seen them yet (other than pictures), so I'm not sure how I'll feel about them.

    I think that the hard bed cover will happen much later (if at all) since it is not something that is listed with an ETA on the documents I've read. That being said - I've been surprised before.

    I'll let you know what I hear.

    Patti
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    It's a shame you couldn't get one that is not yellow. I think the yellow will mainly appeal to a younger audience, whereas the other color choices will have more of a broad spectrum appeal.

    Bob
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Posts: 1,676
    it was fun in the yellow. It won me over because it was so different. I was shocked whem my brother liked it instantly. He's usually much more conservative!

    I'm really going to have to check out the buyer demographics when they go on sale.

    Patti
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    but would you really want to live there? Speaking of the yellow of course... ;)

    I too would be very interested in the buyer demographics, both in terms of colors vs age, and the audience in general.

    Bob
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,661
    I seem to recall, on the Baja web site, that there are optional interior cargo nets? I'm assuming these are to be used if you want to secure your cargo inside the Baja, and not in the bed.

    Obviously, this means no rear seat passengers. Is there a vertical net that runs from floor to ceiling, to prevent cargo from hurling into the front seat area, in case of a panic stop?

    Bob
  • subaru_teamsubaru_team Posts: 1,676
    I'm not sure. I'll check it out tomorrow. It would be a nice idea!

    Patti
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