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CR-V vs Escape

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  • Honda never, ever offers low APR.. your costs are higher in financing everytime.

    3.9% for 36 months seems pretty competitve with local lenders to me. I suppose Ford can make next to nothing on their loans if they have to do it to sell them.

    http://automobiles.honda.com/tools/current_offers.asp?ModelName=CR%2DV
  • dromedariusdromedarius Posts: 307
    I think you should talk to a 100 m sprinter, that he should take the timed run leisurly, maybe he will understand you, because none of us car guys can make sence out of making a timed run without putting all the might into it.

    LOL! Yeah, and Carl Lewis was only as fast as he was because he trained hard and ran his fastest. He should have taken a more leisurely pace.

    :confuse:
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Yes, and driven an Escape, because, after all, you go faster in an Escape when you don't redline it, even though that's where peak power is. That makes sense, right?
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    When I joined this thread in 2002 I started putting $1 in a jar each time the 0-60 debate came up. I'm now a millionaire!!!!!

    Thanks everyone! :P
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,109
    I'm now a millionaire!!!!!

    Okay - 'fess up! Where exactly did you invest that $7,000 ??? :)

    tidester, host
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Do we get a cut of it? :)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,972
    google?

    just got back from 2300 miles in a week in the explorer.
    escape stayed at home. didn't see many escapes or cr-v's on the highway.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    I found this on a blogsite. What do you think? Real photo? They claim its the revamped Escape:

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  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    Okay - 'fess up! Where exactly did you invest that $7,000 ???

    Obviously I bought a CR-V with it and am now making money off of it while saving the world and the environment. :P
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    Edmunds posted a spy shot similar to that a few weeks ago. It is the new Escape which supposedly will have an upgraded interior too.

    Expect to see something similar to that face on the next Five Hundred and Freestyle too. All will get a variation of the Edge's face IIRC.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    Do we get a cut of it?

    Check's in the mail!
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Is anybody else thinking "Moonraker"?

    Otherwise, I kinda like it.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Sorry, I had failed to see it. I didn't want to initially claim this as fact when I really didn't know. Glad to know it is legitimate. Seems a little toothy for my taste, but its nothing unbecoming of Ford; just their corporate face. Its better than the new Super Duty F-250/350!
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,182
    The first gen Escape was much better looking. This one is a bit generic IMO. Nothing about it really stands out in the pack and I can see many confusing it for and Explorer...

    Dull, dull, dull. :(
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,956
    Nothing stood out because that pavement to windshield chrome impaired your vision. Grab some :shades:.

    Steve, Host

    Moderator
    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    Hopefully the little "Escape" etched into the bumper doesn't make it to production. That is a little cheesy IMO.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    Nothing about it really stands out in the pack and I can see many confusing it for and Explorer...

    It doesn't need to stand out. It needs to be recongnized as a Ford. That way if people like it when they see it on the road they'll know where to get one. Mazda has some new products for you if you want something that stands out.

    I disagree about it being confused with an Explorer. I see an '06 Explorer every morning in my garage and the face isn't all that similar. Oddly the Explorer seems to be the only Ford that did not get a close variation of the new face.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,863
    Looks a little too much like the current generation Saturn Vue for my tastes.

    Did Ford revamp the mechanicals to go along with the new metal?
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    Did Ford revamp the mechanicals to go along with the new metal?

    Haven't heard a peep about that yet. I wouldn't be surprised to see the 220 HP version of the Duratec30 under the hood though. Since it's already being produced for a high volume car while others that had the 200 HP version are dying off or moving to the 265 HP Duratec35 it makes sense to streamline in that fashion. I believe the Escape would be the only Ford left with the 200 HP version come this time next year if they keep it in there.

    This is just speculation on my part so don't quote any of this. ;)
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,797
    This is by a member "Got Diesel" on the HondaSUV forum:

    "I drove a rental Escape V-6 last week.

    There are things I liked about it better than our CR-V.

    For me (6'3") the front seats in the Escape are better. The one I rented had power seats which almost always offer more adjustments. I could adjust the rake of the bottom cushion to support my thighs far more comfortably than is possible in our CR-V.

    I wish the CR-V had more flexibility in that area.

    The Escape also seems to have more headroom, but it didn't have a moonroof which our EX does and that is probably significant.

    The Escape has a firmer brake pedal than the CR-V but I don't know if it stops better. I just like firmer brake pedals.

    It also has a far quieter ride on rough pavement, even with the Conti-trac tires, which I know from experience with our Jeep GC are not a particularly quiet or smooth riding tire.

    But... that's the end of the wins in my book.

    The engine is crude, despite 50% more pistons. It has more than adequate power, but at the expense of economy. The throttle seems more touchy as well. And I have never found the CR-V inadequate in the power department.

    The ride is firmer, almost jiggly. The CR-V has an amazingly well calibrated set of shocks/springs.

    The cargo area floor has to be at least half a foot higher than the CR-V. That would make it tough for the older of my two dogs to get into.

    The Escape, I've read, was engineered in large part by Mazda, so I expect it will hold together pretty well.

    I wouldn't throw stones at anybody who buys an Escape. A friend of ours has a hybrid Escape and she actually averages 29 mpg. But to get that, she had to pay $5K more than we did for our CR-V.

    At least it's not an Explorer, for which I have almost zero respect."
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Sounds about right based on my extended experience with the CR-V (not really quiet or incredibly roomy up front (great in back though, just needs more driver's seat travel for my 6'4" frame). I have only spent about 3 hours in an Escape in my lifetime, so i can't say much to the other of what they are saying. Sounds credible though.

    Ride quality and quietness is something nobody here has addressed in a long time.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,182
    On a trip from NE to NYC I rode along with a buddy of mine who has a 2WD 2002 XLT. With almost 70k miles, I have to say, that thing is rock solid over the crappy RT95 tarmac. Not a rattle or a squeek and the suspension never felt overworked. On the highway it cruised nicely at about 80 mph and returned a solid 26 mpg. The engine note is a bit raspy and unrefined at WOT and the CD player wouldn't give me back my discs but all in all...

    Nice. Would consider one even today. :)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    The CD player broke on the trip? Not good! :)
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,863
    "On the highway it cruised nicely at about 80 mph and returned a solid 26 mpg. "

    Was that a 4 or 6 cylinder?
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    I can't speak for anythngbutgm but I was getting 24 MPG on the highway in our '02 XLT V6 with a little extra air in the tires. I don't recall the exact mileage but it was most likely somewhere in the low to mid teens when I did that. 26 MPG is probably possible with the V6 after years of break in and tender care. I wouldn't say it's the norm though.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    the CD player wouldn't give me back my discs but all in all...

    Did they have sticker labels on them by any chance? Ford did issue a TSB and a special mailing to all owners informing them that sticker labels can jam the CD changer.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,797
    Seems like Honda is in the lead again

    http://world.honda.com/HDTV/FCX/promo-200501/

    9 minutes 19 seconds video on Honda's improvements to Fuel cell technology.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,182
    6 cylinder, XLT.

    It was a FWD'er so it didn't have the extra weight of the 4WD system. CD had no stickers on it and you actually have to futz around with it a bit to get it to eject.

    I was disappointed because it was Live's "Mental Jewelry" which is one of the greats of all time IMO. Love that disc. :cry:
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    Got 23 mpg on 95S to NY with a vehicle that weighs 4,500 lbs and is tuned to put out 250 hp. That mileage includes an hour of driving around on city streets and being stuck in traffic on the way back.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    No one posted this yet? You guys are slacking.

    Looks like that outside spare and stupid side swinging rear door are gone finally. Those molded bumps on the rear bumper look very familiar too. :P

    Oh, and no V6 according to Edmunds.
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