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CR-V vs Escape

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  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    posted about the inside of the vehicle....whatever your thoughts, you are making this stuff up out of whole cloth, as I posted an interior shot, and the color is tan or beige, not white, and if you read the story, it seems to be a down-scaled Mariner.



    If you read the article you'd notice that the exterior is white and that is what I was referring to. You also asked a few posts back if I even looked at the link. Obviously I did if I saw the exterior pics. Did you?

    That is a mule in those pictures. A close to production mule, yes, but still a test mule. Have patience and stop calling it the production version please.

    And the photo quality, on my monitor is quite good.....time to buy a LCD.

    I'm viewing them on a 17" widescreen Gateway laptop with an upgraded display. No need for a crappy little LCD here. :P
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    Well, there are other pictures on the Net. Time will tell if the inside is altered much, then, right ;)

    Nice laptop, btw!
  • mschmalmschmal Posts: 1,757
    Just found out that Job 1 for the new 08 Escape is January 2, 2007!

    Mark.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Great work detective! Yep, bought a 2006 Fusion SEL V6 loaded with every option available. I now have over 7,000 miles on the car and it is still solid, no squeaks or rattles and runs great! :shades: You can see my car on Carspace too!
  • ea1420ea1420 Posts: 22
    I'm really surprised that 08 Escape is going to be released so soon! At our local Ford/Mercury dealerships they are practically giving Escapes and Marniers away (well perhaps not, but they are very heavily discounted, thousands off invoice), which makes a heck of a lot more sense now I know that they will be getting the new design in a few months. I'm just surprised that Ford isn't waiting to roll out the new design in the summer/fall of 08.
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    Due to their financial situation, that most likely wasn't a viable alternative for them. :(
  • drive62drive62 Posts: 637
    I took a look at your photos, very nice. Best of luck with the new ride!
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    I'm really surprised that 08 Escape is going to be released so soon!

    The Escape has always been on an early schedule and it's early release has nothing to do with financials. For example, we bought our 2005 Escape in February 2004 and the 2006 Escape hit the dealers in February 2005. See the pattern? ;)
  • drive62drive62 Posts: 637
    An '08 in January '07 :confuse: . Almost seems like deceptive labelling. I wonder if there's a time frame limit where a manufacturer is allowed to slap on the next years' designation.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,221
    An '08 in January '07 . Almost seems like deceptive labelling.

    I thought it was kind of odd when they started doing that too but it's not unusual. The GMC/Chevy full size SUVs were released as 2007 models this past Jan. or Feb. just in time for the Olympics.

    Ford has been doing this with the Escape for roughly 3 years now and I really can't explain why. Maybe a seasonal thing?
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    People always want the newest in everything.

    It is a sales device, pure and simple.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 31,128
    '08 model designation can be for cars introduced for sale any time between January 1st, 2007 and December 31st, 2008.

    MODERATOR
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  • harvey44harvey44 Posts: 178
    Buyer beware.
  • daryll44daryll44 Posts: 306
    There is ONLY ONE FACT to remember: A recent Consumer Reports study showed that a 3 year old FORD has as many problems as a 8 year old Honda. Or, put another way, an 8 year old Honda is a trouble-free as a 3 year old Ford.

    'Nuff said!
  • guestguest Posts: 774
    "There is ONLY ONE FACT to remember: A recent Consumer Reports study showed that a 3 year old FORD has as many problems as a 8 year old Honda. Or, put another way, an 8 year old Honda is a trouble-free as a 3 year old Ford.

    'Nuff said! "

    Nope, not enough said. I heard this over and over from folks just like you that my 01 Escape was going to be unreliable and in the shop. After 75,000 trouble free miles I was still waiting for this predication from the Honda crowd@! Take a look at the Reliability ratings at MSN.. or better yet The Escape comes in just a few points behind the CRV in I believe it was TCO here at Edmunds.

    I no longer own the Escape but my wife has an 04 Mazda V6 ES AWD with now 35,000 trouble free miles!@ Quit spreading misconceptions. Honda no longer has the reliability card locked up. By the way the new CRV is terrible looking. Why did Honda move the tire from the rear if this was such a superior vehicle/design??
  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    Honda, like many others, including Ford and GM have gotten away from mounting the tire on the rear, where it was handy when one was in the bush, but not so handy or wanted, in city/suburban driving..... ;)
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Quit spreading misconceptions

    Why don't we practice what we preach.

    He quoted a published study; nothing wrong with that, so give him a break. If he was saying something untrue (if CR DID NOT publish a study with those results), then he should rescend what he said, but don't get mad if what he is saying is fact.

    The majority of times I've heard anyone speak of the issue of Ford being unreliable, its been you. You seem to be compensating for something.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Boy, the more things change, the more they stay the same...

    Nothing changes (see an example)
  • mnfmnf Posts: 404
    75,000 is not much of a test for a Ford or a Honda as they have only been broken in for a short time. Heck a KIA or even a Daewoo can go that far with out to many issues. The testing starts from 100k and as you get up close to 200k.

    MNF
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Right. I outlined that in my post months ago (to which I provided a link). I've rehashed that before, but all we hear is how we've been brainwashed, and how unreliable scape's Ford's are supposed to have been.
  • drive62drive62 Posts: 637
    Scape2 sold his Escape. I think that speaks volumes.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,945
    And someone may have gotten a great deal on a used Escape.

    Shall we get back to comparing car notes? Please?

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    Minivan fan. Feel free to message or email me - stever@edmunds.com.

  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,797
    After 75,000 trouble free miles I was still waiting for this predication from the Honda crowd!

    I no longer own the Escape

    You answered your own question.

    Both "the Graduate" and I asked you to come back and report reliability of the 2001 Escape at 150,000, 200,000 and 500,000 miles. I guess you won't be doing that. So, you will have to settle with what CR, and other credible sources say: "Honda is better than Ford"
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,972
    jousting with 'varm. he sold his cr-v. conclusion?
    escape and cr-v are entry level vehicles in their class.
    many people move on for their own reasons.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Well, I think it says a lot that he chose another Ford, albeit one of a different class (a midsize sedan instead of a cute-ute). He has his brand loyalty, and Fords continue to please him. There's nothing wrong with that, and it speaks well of Ford's initial satisfaction (it says nothing for long-term, is what blueiedgod was saying, I think), because he kept is about 5 years and 75,000 miles, a relatively short span in a car's long life.
  • drive62drive62 Posts: 637
    Scape2 sold his Escape and got a Fusion, kind of different vehicles. varmint moved up to an MDX, same class of vehicle. Both stayed with their brand though. I said earlier Scape2 is consistent (right down to arguing with other Honda owners about his Fusion vs. their Honda). Many buyers are, brand loyalty is very prevalent.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,945
    brand loyalty is very prevalent

    Interesting point; I have had 3 Nissans in the last 25 years (two Datsun wagons and still driving a Quest assembled by Ford) so I guess I'm a bit partial to them.

    But I've had 2 VWs, a Plymouth, a Toyota and a Subaru in that time too, and I shopped Honda hard last time around (to the point of going home to get my checkbook before I got mad at the dealer).

    When I'm ready to buy again, I guess I'll see which brand has the best sale going on and who has the least idiotic dealer that week. :P

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  • terry92270terry92270 Posts: 1,247
    As for brand loyalty, you can say that again!

    I have owned four motor homes. Two from Ford, one on a GM platform, the current is a diesel pusher. I had the GM based one in between the two Fords. Nothing but transmission problems, and this is constantly a complaint of owners in the RV publications. Just something GM can't get right for big loads. The Ford Super Duty platform is, and always has been, impeccable. The Taurus I had was a superlative workhorse as well.

    Aside from the GM platform Bus style RV, I also had a 2005 Impala, SS. It was a great car, and somewhat restored my confidence in Detroit until I bought a TransAM. :sick:

    Overall, I have never had the bad experiences with dealers or vehicles with Subaru, Nissan and Toyota, that I have had with the Big Three.
  • mikefm58mikefm58 Posts: 2,882
    Thx for the report. Reliable? Not even close to my '99 with 125K miles. Only two issues I've had are the radiator cracked and the driver's side door power lock doesn't work.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,797
    jousting with 'varm. he sold his cr-v. conclusion?
    escape and cr-v are entry level vehicles in their class.
    many people move on for their own reasons.


    I think Varmint had over 100,000 miles on the CR-V. Scape didn't. Maybe he didn't think that his Trouble Free Escape could remain as trouble free approaching 100,000 miles.
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