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  • mikefm58mikefm58 Posts: 2,882
    " I ran into a person who loved their Ford Pinto and claimed it went 300,000 trouble free miles. Clearly all Ford Pintos fall into the same category because that one person claimed it as their experience. "

    I hope you didn't run in to the person in the Ford Pinto from the back of the Pinto. If you did.......*POOF*.........Pintos were noted for that.....LOL
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,732
    "I hope you didn't run in to the person in the Ford Pinto from the back of the Pinto. If you did.......*POOF*.........Pintos were noted for that.....LOL"

    Ummm, and it didn't even matter if the Pinto had just had an oil change... LOL
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    lol, tough crowd.

    And this group must be the reason why we're seeing escalating hp wars:

    Honda Flirts with Development of V8 (Inside Line)

    Steve, Host
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,444
    i guess honda read my post about them being too arrogant to make a v8, although that is what people want. ;)
    honda does make fine small automobile engines, but don't forget, put 2 of those duratecs together and you get an astin martin v12. :)
    have you heard the one about honda being the biggest 'ice' polluter, due to all their lawnmower, snowblower, generator engines? :sick:
  • ay50ay50 Posts: 11
    I don't think I could afford the cost of gas for a V8 in my Honda. The bad news out here in central California is the price of gas at the corner Chevron is 2.72 per gallon for regular and the high temperature hasn't dipped below 105 for about a month now. :cry:

    The good news is I'll be heading for the high sierras this weekend to try and cool off.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    Well, if Honda sticks to the 100 to 120 Hp per Liter of displacement, then a 5 liter V8 would make 500-600 Hp. If they stick to the current V6's 75 Hp per liter then a 5 liter V8 would make about 370 HP. I personally, would not buy a V8, but I am sure there are people that "have the need for it." I wish Honda sold HR-V here as an alternative to rather big CR-V. But CR-V is the smallest "trucklet" you can get in the US.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    have you heard the one about honda being the biggest 'ice' polluter, due to all their lawnmower, snowblower, generator engines?

    Honda small engines are one of the few that are legal for sale in California. My Honda lawnmower (2004 year model) meets the 2007 Carb emissions for small engines. Tecumseh and Briggs are slightly behind Honda. But no one can beat Honda's "half a yank" starting. Too bad Honda does not make a decent midsize snow blower. I ended up with Ariens with Tecumseh. When you compare the Honda 5 Hp and Tecumseh 5.5 Hp, Honda runs smoother, queter and is easier to start. Luckily Ariens comes with electric starter, so that I don't have to get "tennis elbow" from trying to start it.

    I have an older 24" Craftsman snow blower that is as old as I am (30). I have been toying with an idea of fitting a Honda GX160 in it, to replace the pretty badly worn Tecumseh 30. I have not been able to find a Honda with PTO and main shafts. Seems like Honda only makes engines with one output shaft. It was almost as much to buy an Ariens 5520E on clearance ($350) as buying Honda GX160 ($190) and then attach the gearing for the PTO shaft.

    But anyway, where is Ford's small power equipment engine? :confuse:
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,444
    i thought about buying a new 4 cycle string trimmer, to replace my old 2 cycle. there are plenty of ca approved small engines out there. the trimmer does fit in the escape if i fold down the rear seat.
    also have a 6.5 hp honda snow blower. it works great, although not quiet. when the snow is really heavy, i wish i had the 8 hp big orange. i bought the electric start, but have never used it. neither of those machines would fit in the escape.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    i thought about buying a new 4 cycle string trimmer, to replace my old 2 cycle. there are plenty of ca approved small engines out there. the trimmer does fit in the escape if i fold down the rear seat.
    also have a 6.5 hp honda snow blower. it works great, although not quiet. when the snow is really heavy, i wish i had the 8 hp big orange. i bought the electric start, but have never used it. neither of those machines would fit in the escape.


    The Honda snowblower is a single stage, which is not suitable for Buffalo winters duty. Although some people make do with that. I just don't have time to make 5 passes with single stage, where one pass would do with dual stage. I have not seen dual stage Honda snow blowers. If there was one, I would have bought it.

    But here is the kicker. Both the Craftsman or the Ariens snow blowers (not at the same time) fit in the 2002 Civic Si, with the handles folded. I only transported Ariens in the CR-V, so far, and it fits no problem. I guess CR-V is much bigger than Escape.
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,732
    " I wish Honda sold HR-V here as an alternative to rather big CR-V. But CR-V is the smallest "trucklet" you can get in the US."

    I think you mean honda "trucklet"; the RAV 4 is smaller, and I think some of the Korean and Japanese vehicles are smaller as well. Suzuki comes to mind.
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    I remember when we had a post on here Titled - Your Lawnmower Vs. You SUV - which spends more time off-road? If you want to have a good laugh, read these post. I had to do some digging to find this too.

    Odie
  • johnson5johnson5 Posts: 34
    Living with Honda CRV 3+ years 68 K miles.

    Repairs

    50 K miles replaced catalytic converter 1400 $. Under emission control warranty
    63000 miles the check engine light came again replaced evoparative Caannister under the tank and Oxygen sensor paid 530 dollars. Other than that there are no major repairs.

    CRV is progressively increasing road noise. The seats are uncomfortable
    Gas Mileage highway 24-25 miles remained the same.
    Adequate engine power. Not really that great in winter.

    Complaints some options such as fog lights are too expensive paid 350dollars including installation.

    I guess with the advent of computer controls the electronics are the one failing down. I drove my previous Toyota 4 Runner for 240 K miles. No major repairs. I can not say the same with Honda. The engines may be reliable but not the sensors and other electronic and emission control stuff.
    I do not know howthe escape holds up after 65 K miles.
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    I remember when we had a post on here Titled - Your Lawnmower Vs. You SUV - which spends more time off-road? If you want to have a good laugh, read these post. I had to do some digging to find this too.

    Odie


    Thank you. That is a funny thread. I wonder why it is locked now?
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    Living with Honda CRV 3+ years 68 K miles.

    Repairs

    50 K miles replaced catalytic converter 1400 $. Under emission control warranty
    63000 miles the check engine light came again replaced evoparative Caannister under the tank and Oxygen sensor paid 530 dollars. Other than that there are no major repairs.

    CRV is progressively increasing road noise. The seats are uncomfortable
    Gas Mileage highway 24-25 miles remained the same.
    Adequate engine power. Not really that great in winter.

    Complaints some options such as fog lights are too expensive paid 350dollars including installation.

    I guess with the advent of computer controls the electronics are the one failing down. I drove my previous Toyota 4 Runner for 240 K miles. No major repairs. I can not say the same with Honda. The engines may be reliable but not the sensors and other electronic and emission control stuff.
    I do not know howthe escape holds up after 65 K miles.


    If you are still running OEM tires, you were probably due to replace them some 20,000 miles ago. That would explain the winter driving dissatisfaction and increasing road noise.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,921
    Thank you. That is a funny thread. I wonder why it is locked now?

    I think it was an off-shoot of Aztek bashing and I Don't Like SUVs Why Do You, and it wasn't exactly topical. It was also high maintenance with a post or two needing attention for profanity or the like every day.

    It was fun to ruminant over those awful puns though. Or is it ruminate? :shades:

    Steve, Host
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    Like steve said, the posts started to get touchy to some people. A bunch of us tried to keep them clean but you know how things can get. But you have to admit it Steve, some of the CLEAN POSTS got very funny.

    Odie :)
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,444
    you know what they say, 'the grass is always greener on the other side'. ok, i was just trying to get your goat. :) i read all the pages earlier. :sick:
  • odie6lodie6l Hershey, PaPosts: 1,078
    let's not goat there.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    I went to www.alldata.com and now Honda TSB's are posted??? Hmmm... I wonder why? For years at this site when you clicked the TSB's for any Honda vehicle you would get a notice from Alldata stating Honda does not share TSB information.. Looks like Honda was pressured into allowing this information onto this site and for all to see..I love the internet!.. information galore.
    I just state the 1,000 max mileage out of a Ford product because this is what some Honda militia like to spout out in these forums. Fords unreliable, garbage ect.. Yet, if you get out on the net, visit other auto sites. Reliability in vehicles is not really a topic anylonger. All brands across the board have made leaps and bounds in the reliability department. The new buzz word is "refinement". In the coming years car makers are going to have to produce vehicles people desire. Well, got to go change my oil on my Escape.. Cheers...
  • stevedebistevedebi LAPosts: 3,732
    "let's not goat there."

    Did you mean "gloat" or "go"? Or is there a joke in there somewhere?
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