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CR-V vs Escape

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  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    UH, did you forget, engine fires were and still are the CRV??.... :P
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Here we go again.. Why is it ok to bring up issues that are 3-4 years old now? Yes, they solved the stalling issues on the Escape/Tribute years ago. At least Ford solved the problem.. unlike the Fire issues with the CRV..
    Swept that one under the rug really fast, great PR job by Honda.. if have to say..
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    "And Ford is planning on discontinuing the Escape...what does that say??? "

    Once again a Honda clan member with wrong information.. Spreading rumors and stories..Escape is NOT being discontinued... ;)
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Yes, I can hold a bag of groceries and reach up and pull my hatch down in my garage, with my Escape.
    Sure would like to see CRV owners unload parked parallel between two cars.. not going to happen we all know this.
    Second, why is it if this design is so superior would Honda change it? After all it is a "progressive" company is it? Fact is the IIHS crashtests with the rear bumper, glass imploding inward on impact stories have caught up with Honda. They are on the net in other chat rooms where people have been rear ended and its not a pretty story. Yes, you can quote crash test ratings all day long, but the rear mounted spare just doesn't work, along with a swinging gate..
    Also, noticed how the CRV group tried to sweep under the carpet how the TCO of the Escape is right behind the CRV. Guess they now have to stop spreading misinformation on how unreliable and bad quality the Escape is, since the evidence is staring them right in the face that says otherwise.. :P
  • dromedariusdromedarius Posts: 307
    Also, noticed how the CRV group tried to sweep under the carpet how the TCO of the Escape is right behind the CRV.

    NUMERICALLY, as in 1-10, it is right behind the CR-V. It's still $2,000 behind, though. That's like saying I finish the race two laps ahead of you and you are "right" behind me. I only got through Calc 2 back in my undergrad days; regardless, $2,000 is $2,000.

    ;)
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    I only got through Calc 2 back in my undergrad days; regardless, $2,000 is $2,000.

    Well, that's your problem! You have to get all the way through Calc 3 to fully appreciate the nuance and subtlety. ;)

    tidester, host
  • dromedariusdromedarius Posts: 307
    Doh! Although in my defense, $2,000 may as well be a million dollars until I get another raise.

    :blush:
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,459
    in connecticut, you pay property tax based on the 'nada' value. this can be way out of whack, but it costs real money.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Ouch! And aren't gas prices there well above the national average too?

    tidester, host
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,459
    i posted in interesting breakdown of the cost of gas in connecticut over on 'report your local gas prices'.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Great report - thanks!

    tidester, host
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    $2,000 easily made up in lower price for Escape, lower APR offered AND rebates... :P
  • dromedariusdromedarius Posts: 307
    No, because it already includes the price and the rebates. As for APR, that depends on your credit. So again, no it isn't easily made up.

    ;)
  • sky23213sky23213 Posts: 296
    You forgot the "Scratch and Save" we all received from Ford. Would that be a rebate, or TCOR (TCO Reduction) :P.
    How did I receive it? As an insert with my vehicle registration renewal, sent from the State DMV/DVS. As mentioned earlier here, Ford needs all the help they could get. Sad...
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    Yes, I can hold a bag of groceries and reach up and pull my hatch down in my garage, with my Escape.
    Sure would like to see CRV owners unload parked parallel between two cars.. not going to happen we all know this.
    Second, why is it if this design is so superior would Honda change it? After all it is a "progressive" company is it? Fact is the IIHS crashtests with the rear bumper, glass imploding inward on impact stories have caught up with Honda. They are on the net in other chat rooms where people have been rear ended and its not a pretty story. Yes, you can quote crash test ratings all day long, but the rear mounted spare just doesn't work, along with a swinging gate..
    Also, noticed how the CRV group tried to sweep under the carpet how the TCO of the Escape is right behind the CRV. Guess they now have to stop spreading misinformation on how unreliable and bad quality the Escape is, since the evidence is staring them right in the face that says otherwise..


    If you are all about the truth, what about Escape's:

    Wheels falling off?

    Doors openning during cornering?

    Hatch latches not working and openning upon acceleration?

    Wiper motors catching on fire?

    Prematurely Corroding suspension parts?

    ...


    And most importantly, Escape's inability to beat CR-V to 60 in manual or Automatic form and inability to match CR-V's fuel economy?
  • blueiedgodblueiedgod Posts: 2,803
    $2,000 easily made up in lower price for Escape, lower APR offered AND rebates...

    Comparable equipped Escape shows over and over to be more expensive (including the rebate) than comparable equipped CR-V.

    Doesn't onw only get the rebate or low finance rate with Ford, NOT BOTH?
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 39,043
    I've seen it both ways, but most often you can't combine incentives. Right now the $2,000 Escape Customer Cash incentive can not be combined with 0.0% - 5.9% APR in my zip code per the Incentives & Rebates page.

    Steve, Host
  • drive62drive62 Posts: 637
    Gee I guess I'll tell you for (at least) the HUNDRETH time.

    The CR-V fires were caused by technician error.

    Unlike the Escape and it's stalling engine, the CR-V had no recall related to the fire issue.

    I know, it was all a conspiracy.
  • anythngbutgmanythngbutgm Posts: 4,161
    Wiper motors catching fire? I thought it was faulty fuel lines that could spark and catch fire. Maybe it was both ;) Wheels falling off? How long has America been building automobiles? C'mon the lessons have been learned 10x over and yet you couldn't even count on the wheels staying on ;) :mad: ... But those problems happened long ago so they really aren't relevant to the current product.

    It really is too bad the Escape twins had such a rough launch, you'd think they were reincarnations of the Chevy Citation given the rate that the recalls appeared... and for such stupid stuff. They ride and drive quite well, and for a 5 year old design, I think its held up pretty well.

    It certainly isn't a Cheapuinox which is a nast little turd wrapped in a pretty wrapper. THAT thing is atrocious, makes a Ford Escape seem built like a Benz in comparison.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    Yes, I can hold a bag of groceries and reach up and pull my hatch down in my garage, with my Escape.

    That's nice, and it works for you, which is good. The point I've tried to make, which is seemingly ignored from certain folks, is that different hatch designs appeal to different people. We cannot open any kind of hatch (other than a Honda Fit, probably!) in our garage due to the fact that we have a split level house, and our hatch doesn't clear the garage door. With the side-open door of the 2002-current CR-V, we could open the door slightly (maybe 20-30 degrees, slide in and get whatever we needed out of the back...flipping the glass was no problem either if we were pulled in far enough...but no normal hatch would work for us.

    I DO understand its benefits AND its flaws, but when my folks park in a deck for work and a garage at home, there's not really a worry about what happens when you paralell park.
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