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CR-V vs Escape

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  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    Hmm, that's not what I've read. Do you have a link to that info or is it just heresay like the info I referred to?
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,620
    We had a whole discussion about it, but it seems to be lost in the archives...

    Here is the best link I can find..

    Washington Post article

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  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    Well I stand corrected.

    It seems the WP doesn't necessarily believe Honda's excuse which is reasonable IMO. As I said previously, I had a gasket stick on me during a change and didn't notice it. The filter with the gasket that stuck was installed by a quickie lube place and I doubt it stuck because of the chemical makeup of the rubber or else we probably would have heard of it.
  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    Kind of funny you mention this. Yes, I did change my oil in my Escape, yes I did drip oil on the hot manifold. Yet.. For some strange reason my Escape never caught fire!! :confuse:
  • dromedariusdromedarius Posts: 307
    These Escapes are catching fire after a few years. You only had yours long enough to put on 75,000 miles before you had to get rid of it. Hardly long enough to prove any sort of durability of any kind.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    Hardly long enough to prove any sort of durability of any kind.

    That was 75,000 miles which equates to about 6 years. At what point can you make a definitive statement about durability? :)

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  • scape2scape2 Posts: 4,119
    I used my Escape as an SUV not a daily commuter. Can you say you towed 2 watercraft up and down a mountain range summer after summer in your CRV? No. Can you say you took your CRV into a major mountain range time and time again in the snow every winter for skiing trips? or how about out on logging roads in the summer heat looking for fishing spots? I doubt it. My Escape was used as an SUV not a car. It was a durable and reliable Ford product. Do your homework, the Escape is rated very well for reliability. By the way, get out on the net, CRV's are still having burning smells and even a fire or two :surprise: I'm in no way saying the Escape is the "best" small SUV. Does it deserve a look? heck yes!@
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    ...that got this forum shut down, aren't we? Re-hashing the SAME issues, even when a brand new CR-V is out, as well as at least an updated Escape. Can't we talk about the NEW cars?
  • bdymentbdyment Posts: 549
    Amen to that idea!
  • drive62drive62 Posts: 637
    The article states specifically that the seals were "missing or incorrectly installed ". I think it is a fair assumption to say they are are referring to when the vehicle was built. That's a bit different than when some oil change jockey left a gasket on when he changed a filter.
  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,210
    The gaskets in question on the CR-V were installed in the factory. Again, same thing.
  • dromedariusdromedarius Posts: 307
    75,000 miles is not the bar for durability, at least not in my social circles. 150,000 is nothing to brag about. You get to 200,000 miles and some of the people I know will care. Heck, my parents 1988 Crown Vic had 180,000 miles on it when they got rid of it, albeit the transmission had to be rebuilt at 130,000.
  • dromedariusdromedarius Posts: 307
    Is going to be a non-issue in a couple years if Ford can't find a way to make a profit. I read the other day FMC lost over $12 billion in '06. They had to take out a loan for 23 billion to try and turn things around. Ford had better start turning out updated models a LOT sooner than every 8 years (or 20+, in the case of the Ranger), if they hope to compete with the Japanese. Of course, that's not going to happen when the company can't pay its bills. That's what happens when you think only short term. It seems to me the only thing Ford cares about is "Quality is Job 1" for their F150. Everything else was overlooked, so now the bottomline, and its product line, are showing it.
  • tidestertidester Posts: 10,110
    You get to 200,000 miles and some of the people I know will care.

    That works out to about 15 years and I'll concede that you will know much sooner that if the vehicle is not durable. :)

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  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    For people like my parents, that'd equate to less than 7 years! My dad traded his 2005 Accord in Novemeber 2006 for a 2007 Civic Sedan. it had 69k miles on it in less than two years (got the Accord around Christmas 04), so you can see why some of us think 75k is a drop in the mileage bucket.
  • dromedariusdromedarius Posts: 307
    I'm saying I don't know people who brag about cars with even 150,000 miles on them with no problems. Certainly not 75,000. I put over 70,000 miles on my 2nd car, a '93 Dodge Shadow, after buying used with 39,000 miles. My little brother now uses it as his college car. None of us have ever had to stick a dime into it, even though it has been badly abused since I passed it on a few years ago. I'd still never claim Chrysler is a reliable brand because of my ONE experience with one of their products.

    On the other hand, my '03 ZX2, which I hastily traded away at 18,000 miles a couple years ago, was ALREADY having problems with its transmission. Despite the fact that I've known several people who have logged heavy miles on little Escorts, I suppose I could say all Escorts are garbage. But I won't. :blush:
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    to me, driving that many miles in a short time makes no sense. i don't want to spend that much time in a car.
    i have made sure i live not too far from work.
    have any guys bought a new cr-v? the escape plays to a wider audience.
  • thegraduatethegraduate Posts: 9,731
    to me, driving that many miles in a short time makes no sense. i don't want to spend that much time in a car.
    i have made sure i live not too far from work.


    The folks live 13 miles from work, and ride together (work at the same place). It's not that far really, by my standards (I drive 14 miles to school 4 days a week). Having had a condo 300 miles away on the gulf coast meant they were driving the 600 mile trip every other weekend since 2004, hence the rapid mileage buildup.
  • dromedariusdromedarius Posts: 307
    We bought our 2005 CR-V new. Why does that matter?
  • explorerx4explorerx4 Central CTPosts: 9,613
    don't have a vacation home, but wouldn't want to live that far from it either. ;)
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