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USED European Luxury Cars (pre 1990)

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  • ghuletghulet Posts: 2,628
    I'm pretty sure, at least on my mom's 300E of the same year, that there's a way to lock the trunk and disable the trunk lock from working--certainly that could be the problem. Don't remember there being a 'valet key' or any such thing per se, though. Make sure the trunk lock cylinder is in the vertical (IIRC) position, as it's on 'lockdown mode' if it's in the horizontal (or maybe I have that reversed--either way, experiment a bit).
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,939
    My 126 300SE had a square-fob key for normal driving, and an oval-fob key for valet. I think it just didn't unlock the glove box, maybe the trunk. I remember that 126 had a sticky trunk lock cylinder...often it would take several tries for me to unlock via the trunk. It might be an issue among period MB.
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    For some reason I thought you had a 300SEL.

    I did see a '90 350SDL today...talk about a rough-running engine there. No wonder almost nobody wants them today.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,939
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    Yeah, my 126 was the SWB. Great old car, I'd have kept it if I had the room to store it.

    I've heard the engine in those late 126 diesels can be quite a leaker too.
  • amazonamazon Posts: 293
    Are the 350 SDL's not good? I like the idea of more power than the earlier 300's
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,939
    I really don't know much about that engine technically, but once I was looking at a 350SD (the very rare SWB model made in 90-91) and my MB specialist told me to stay away. I think there must have been a reason.

    It's a little off the target of this thread, but I know the W140 was offered in a diesel in 92-93...I wonder how those are.
  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,683
    350SLD -- Bad engine design...stay away....
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    I recall reading in a Benz buyer's guide one time that the W140's diesel engine was the exact same unit from the W126. They only sold them here for four years (1992-95) until they pulled the cars from the American market for emissions issues. I've seen very few W140 diesels- apparently nobody wanted them even when new.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,939
    Was it the unit from the earlier 300SD, the later version, or the 350SD/L? Or maybe the same as in the 124? The 140 cars were badged "300SD" IIRC, so that adds some confusion. I'd imagine a smallish diesel wouldn't have the easiest time lugging around that big 140 body.
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    The 140 diesel cars were indeed badged "300SD" but that was only for the first two years, 1992 and 1993. When Mercedes revised its model numbering system, then they went to the "S350" badging. Yes, the engine in all W140 diesel cars was the infamous 3.5-liter unit first seen in the 126. If you have an opportunity go to www.msn.com and look up reviews for the S-Class from '92-'95. You'll find that most consumer reviews of the 300SD/S350 are less than positive.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,939
    Good reason to stick with the older 126 cars I guess. They may be a little slower, but are generally very reliable if maintained. I see 123 and early 126 diesels on the road daily, cars that have been out of production for over 20 years.
  • jrosasmcjrosasmc Posts: 1,704
    One more thing, what was the model designation of the SL series (1990-2002) that came after the long-running 560SL and others? They were good solid cars but I recall them being overly complicated in terms of electronics.
  • MrShift@EdmundsMrShift@Edmunds Posts: 43,683
    The 300SL and 500SL. They were good looking but not particularly exciting to drive.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,939
    That'd be a R129, aka W129. I think the pick of the series is the 6cyl cars...I'd run from a V12. They all up depreciating to the same level anyway. I've seen higher mileage ones for under 10K, decent early models for 15K or so. The last of the 01-02 Silver Arrow cars still carry asking prices near 40K. We got them in 300SL/SL320 and 500/600 series.
  • ghuletghulet Posts: 2,628
    ...unless you really 'need' the rear legroom of a LWB 126 (the 300SDL) would be a W124 300D Turbo, eh? I think, though, they were only sold in the U.S. for one year, though (1987), so they're a bit hard to find, and kind of expensive. The 300TD wagon of the same year (if you're into that) has the same engine, IIRC.
  • amazonamazon Posts: 293
    The late model W124 Diesels (MY'02-'05), What's the consensus on those?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,939
    I haven't heard anything really bad about 124 diesels...the wagons are fairly sought-after too.
  • mbchikmbchik Posts: 2
    This solution came from a building contractor and dedicated Mercedes owner:
    turn the key in the trunk lock to the left, push in, and tap the top of the trunk edge with a free hand.
    Glory be this really worked! For the 1988 190E series there does not appear to be any interior access - amazing for German technology.
    Many, many thanks for all who responded to my plea.
  • hpmctorquehpmctorque Posts: 4,120
    I suggest that the title of this topic be changed to "...(pre 2000)" to jump start interest in it.
  • great idea on one level, and thanks for the suggestion, but we are the "Classics" board, so we sorta kinda have to keep it about "old" cars....what would you think about a topic in the Maintenance & Repair board...something like "Dealing with Out of Warranty German Luxury Cars?"
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