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Mazda6 Hatchback

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  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    The silly thing is that a hatch can be built to look exactly like a sedan. Just move the hinge from below the rear window to above the rear window and you have a hatch. I don't understand why anybody would buy a sedan over a hatch especially if they look the same.
  • The hatch is already on sale in England according to some English car magazine I thumbed through.
    Mazda website now has a "contact us" by email.... so y'all email them and tell them to hurry up and while they're at it, retain the folding mirrors and repeat signals for the US market!
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,324
    That's key, especially for my wife, who has knocked off the side mirror on her Saturn with the side of the garage door opening.

    I sometimes use mine when I park too close to the metal support column in my garage instead of moving the car. It was one factor in my buying a Protege.
  • But since they're not required here... most car companies save a few bucks by putting fixed mirrors on their domestic issue versions. Hopefully Mazda will be the better man and put the convenient folding mirrors on them for us. Toyota puts fixed mirrors even on their $30,000 cars. Fixed mirrors are an attractive nuisance because they get in your way in the garage, pedestrians have been injured by them from passing cars, they get knocked off on narrow streets, etc., etc.

    A Saturn had it's mirror broken off.?..
    Gee...What a suprise! My Saturn mirror was broken off easily too...piece of dreck. I even emailed Saturn about it. They are only interested in saving money.
    Last week on Route 1 in NJ I saw two cars almost collide. They both tried to change lanes into the center lane at the same time. The car at fault was a Saturn. The FOOL was driving with no driver's side mirror...it was broken off. While the guy is foolish... I can understand that someone had probably bumped into his mirror and easily broke it off.

    I see many Saturns and Focus' by the way with mirrors broken off. My next car will have foldaway mirrors!
  • voochvooch Posts: 92
    It wouldn't make any difference to me upon buying the car whether it has folding mirrors or not, although I would prefer folding. I've only had 1 car with folding mirrors and as of yet, it doesn't make a bit of difference. I would hope you wouldn't rule out any car just because of folding mirrors. Of course its a bonus though. =)

    If you are driving all the time with a 4 inch tolerance between your car and other objects, you need be worried about more than just folding mirrors! You may want to drive a tank.
  • jfgoingjfgoing Posts: 13
    Let me tell you a story of well made side mirrors. Some time in the late 80's when I was driving an '87 Camry, I snugged up the passenger side of the car to a pole in the parking garage at work so I could fit into a tight spot. I had a long hard day and when time came to leave I reversed the car out of the spot way too fast – I heard the “Bang!” of the mirror slamming into the pole just as I remembered about being too close.

    I figured the mirror was history. There were about five pieces of plastic lying on the floor, and the mirror bit had landed face down on the concrete. Being an engineer, I gathered up the bits to see how the thing had been made. To my great surprise the mirror surface was barely scratched and each of the plastic pieces was still intact – I could just fit the assembly back together and replace it on the car. Even the mirror adjustment mechanism had survived (although it was a bit looser now).

    Impressed the heck out of me. I never knocked it off again and it survived for many more years. So count me as a vote for high quality folding (and more :-) mirrors.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,324
    Making it more likely to knock off mirrors. Developers getting cheaper. My 18 year-old house has a much bigger garage than ones being built today.

    Besides, it's worth paying a little more up front than to face a couple-hundred dollar repair later.

    Another pet peeve: glued-on rear-view mirrors v. bolted-on mirrors. You figure there's a reason those glue kits for rear-view mirrors are sold in the auto parts stores. I hear about these things falling off all the time. It would irritate me if mine fell off one day (one of the few things I don't like about my Protege sedan).
  • jskhojskho Posts: 107
    was considered by some as a safety feature because it snaps off easily so it won't hurt occupants in a crash.
  • vocusvocus Posts: 7,777
    They have to be glued on so they are break-away when the airbags deploy. All new cars are that way.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,324
    Check out the Camry and Accord.

    And the mirror support arm can be designed to break-away when impacted but still be a more robust attachment method than glue (just like the airbag covers are designed to tear in a certain way to give easily when needed w/o tearing the bag and feeling robust), especially in temperature extremes.
  • sdattasdatta Posts: 24
    My first car was a Celica hatchback and I loved that car. It was so useful. I have a truck now but will need a car to take the kids to school next year. The 6 hatch would be a perfect replacement. It is way better looking than the Altima/Maxima/Camcord. I wish the torque number was higher, but I think I'm willing to make the performance/price&looks trade-off b/w the Altima/Maxima and the 6. If I can get a decently optioned 6 hatch with the V6 and manual transmission for around $22K, that would be an easy purchase decision.
  • npgmbrnpgmbr Posts: 248
    July 24, 2002

    Mazda North American Operations
    P.O. Box 19734
    Irvine, CA 92623-9734
    Attn: Customer Assistance Center

    Dear Sir or Madam:

    I am writing today because I have become increasingly interested in Mazdas products. My interest was first sparked by the Tribute and then by the Protége 5 both of which I eventually decided to pass on.

    I have always been a loyal customer to General Motors but have become quiet tired of their lack of vision and attention to detail however, that was not enough to get me into an import. About a year and a half ago I decided it was time to upgrade from my current vehicle a Geo Tracker, to a mid-size SUV.

    Initially my first choice was the Mazda Tribute but after some soul searching I realized that I was not in love with the Tribute although I liked it very much. My next choice was the Jeep Liberty which was more than was I was looking for but its lack of good fuel mileage turned me off. Next up were the Saturn VUE and Pontiac Vibe. I had waited an entire year to test drive these vehicles but the VUE (naturally) was geared toward a group that had no interest in a vehicle with manual transmission and V6 engine. While the Pontiac Vibe offered everything that the VUE and Liberty didnt I felt that at 31 years old I should look for something a little more grown-up.

    Thats when I ran across an article in Car & Driver Magazine which featured the 6. I must admit that if there was ever an import I would buy it would have easily had been a Mazda. But this time, Mazda as secured a new customer with the 6. I am very eagerly awaiting the launch of the 6.

    I absolutely cannot wait to take a test drive as Im sure I will be ready to make the purchase.

    The little information I have read so far provided no real details on the vehicles release. Does Mazda at this time have a release date for the 6 (hatchback model)? Please say its not 2004!

    Sincreely,

    H Morgan
  • voochvooch Posts: 92
    I emailed Mazda USA the same question. They responded that the sedan would be out in December 2002 and the hatchback would be out a year later, December 2003. =(
  • npgmbrnpgmbr Posts: 248
    It might as well be 2004. Hopefully they will reconsider. Personally I think the hatchback model will be the winner.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,324
    In Zoom Zoom magazine this issue. Looks like Mazda NA's changed their minds! :)
  • To Mazda US

    Wow, the wait is almost over. I had a '91 626 LX 5 speed. What a balance of utility, looks, economy and capability. The quality was not what Honda, Toyota delivered. Lots of road/wind noise mostly, and a terrible AC unit (big $$$).

    The new 6 looks great. A V6 with a 5 speed! I may need to trade my Accord V6 EX for this machine.

    A 5 door has been in Europe so long. It was amazing why it did not make it over here. Good work.
  • rsparrowrsparrow Posts: 60
    Not really anything specific about the hatchback, but some new pictures of the car in grey, updated to reflect the North American version.


    http://www.mazdausa.com/mazda6/mz6_main_flash.asp

  • kenokakenoka Posts: 218
    For those who were wondering whether the MazdaSpeed 6 would be the sedan or hatchback, it appears it's the hatchback! Yes!

    http://www.mellor.net/mellor/enews.nsf/edition/32D6790F4D0D608FCA256B81002ABFB3/$file/2002.03.20_enews127.pdf
  • If that version of the car comes to Canada, I am going to own one. Period. I wish I had some idea how to convert Nm and Kw into torgue and horsepower numbers, because I am very curious to see what they are.
  • bpibpi Posts: 120
    276 hp and 289 lb-ft
  • kenokakenoka Posts: 218
    I'm sure Canada will get their share. Thanks for the conversion bpi. I wonder what the real horsepower numbers will be.
  • If you are reading this it means that you are looking for feedback from fans, enthusiasts and potential buyers. I am a potential buyer who will be looking for a new vehicle next May. Please, please, please, make sure that you have ample hatchbacks avaliable by the end of May to ease my transition into one. Thank you for the opportunity to make my opinions known via my good friends at Edmunds.
  • civicwcivicw Posts: 135
    Retire the Product Planning or Marketing dorks who decided to launch the sedan way before the sedan-look hatchback.

    This is a no-brainer. The sedan-look hatchback will be unique in a market filled with boring Camcord sedans, and is the best of both worlds: sedan look with more utility.

    When the hatchback is launched, resist the temptation to pack them with loads of "options", Toyota style. Instead, sell them like Honda, fully equipped at a reasonable price, in no more than 2 trim levels. Make it easier for the customer to buy. Then watch those sales REALLY take off.
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    AMEN!

    Carmakers have avoided hatches and wagons like the plague for the last decade or so in the US. In my youth (I am 46), I owned two hatches, and adored them both for their utility, even if they WERE an AMC Gremlin and a Pontiac T-1000 (Chevette clone). My parents owned a wagon, and we loved it. To some extent, this manufacturer aversion may have been in response to boomers resenting the wagons their parents had (the mini-van of that day) and the CHEAP econohatches we boomers had as kids.

    Note that Mazda has tried to make the hatch look exactly like the sedan. I want a hatch, and I wish I didn't have to wait a year to get it.

    Then again, except for a Ford Focus or VW Golf, what other hatch is still out there? And I need more than a subcompact.

    Virtually everybody that makes cars offers a sedan. Hatches and wagons are few and far between. For about the past 20 years, the largest US made wagaon has been the Taurus/Sable! And hatches nearly completely disappeared.

    That's the reason why so many of us are so excited to see Mazda doing good stuff, like the Protege5 and the Mazda6 wagons and hatches.

    Bring 'em on! Best of all, bring us CHOICES!
  • Follow this link & download the convert program. It is free & invaluable. Very useful for converting european specs to ours. This thing will convert anything!http://www.joshmadison.com/software/convert/
    P.S. Can't wait for the 6 hatch!
  • johnclineiijohnclineii Posts: 2,287
    This one has a piece of news many of us will not like, if true. The hatch and wagon (with available all wheel drive) are due in a year OR SO. Sigh.


    Otherwise a great article:


    http://www.detnews.com/2002/autosinsider/0210/18/b01-615423.htm

  • I've had a Ford Taurus sedan for the past five years and have decided that my next car will not have a trunk. Any slightly large box just does not fit! I'd rather not get a wagon and all the SUV vehicles are just not what I want for a commuter car.

    The Mazda6 is going to be the only hatchback large enough for me. I would really like to know when we can expect these cars. I think that this car can do for Mazda what the Outback has done for Subaru. All they need is some good marketing and a clever commercial. I can see it now- two cars parked next to each other; one Honda sedan and one Mazda6 hatchback; they both bought a new TV and are trying to load it in their cars...

    Well, a friend of mine says he has some contacts in Mazda that could get some information for me. I would like to send along some comments from all of the people reading this discussion. Just maybe if they see the demand, we can get a good response.

    I think the Mazda6 is the best looking five door hatchback I have ever seen. Mazda would do well to capitalize on this.

    Please post what you would like Mazda to hear about the Mazda6 hatchback and I'll do my best to pass it on. I cannot make any promises, however.
  • regfootballregfootball Posts: 2,166
    I totally agree with a lot of your post gtyler. I would like the 6, but with the choice of wagon or hatch. I would love a bright yellow 6 hatch.

    I don't think many are reading this topic compared to the 6 topic in the sedans section, but i know many share what we feel...you might wanna post in that topic as well to get more response.
  • mazdafunmazdafun Posts: 2,324
    As nice as the sedan looks, I'll wait for the hatch and wagon for the additional utility. The hatch looks very nice too, but the wagon looks a better fit for stuffing big boxes or my bikes into.
  • gtyler, what i would like the hatch to have is folding outside mirrors, stability control, side turn lights (like VW's), fog lights under the bumper (opposed to intergrated in the headlight assembly), power seats with memory, auto-up feature on the power windows, and adjustable head rests for the rear seats. i understand that 6's destined for other countries already have a lot of these features so i don't understand why the US sedan are lacking a lot of them.

    you think you can tell your friend to make sure most of theses features show up on the hatch when it arrives here?
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