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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,637
    I am down to only 2. I did not bother to get a new portable unit for the Volvo (my accord was built in). My daughter actually prefers FM (kids!), and there are enough stations on that I can live with it, since I don't drive much. For trips, I can use the ipod in the AUX jack (handy), or the 6 CD changer.

    In our van, the adapter I put in also runs the ipod, so if I took it away from the wife, she would live with ipod and FM (and ipod for travel).

    My son is the one that bugged to keep it, for his drive back and forth from the wilderness, but the Acura does have a CD player (changer I think, but not sure!). He just doesn't have many CDs (everything on the ipod). Should just get him an adapter and cut the cord!

    will likely go back when we get a new car for my wife since most likely it will all be integrated.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    The wife's CX-7 has a Sirius subscription that expires in September. Not sure if I'm gonna renew.

    The car has an AUX port and a 6-CD changer, but I'm thinking about adding iPod compatibility to it so it will charge the iPod and allow the steering wheel controls to be used.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,637
    most of the new stuff we are considering seems to have ipod integration already accounted for.

    One of the things I don't like about the ipod is not being able to see the info on the radio display. not convenient or safe to have to pick up the ipod itself to change things.

    in our van, the USAspec unit we installed does charge the ipod, and integrates to the radio buttons, just not the display. So I can skip songs, but not see what is on 9or do any other ipod functions),

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • michaellnomichaellno Posts: 4,300
    most of the new stuff we are considering seems to have ipod integration already accounted for.

    In our fleet, only the daughter's MINI has full iPod integration with a separate cable. The ION and CX-7 only have an AUX port.

    The wife does not use her iPod in the CX-7 - she doesn't like to have to look at the iPod for controls, and it runs the charge down. (She doesn't like the Bose unit in our house either as that doesn't charge the iPod)

    OTOH, I do use my iPod in the ION when I'm delivering pizzas. Yes, it's a pain to have to use the iPod to skip songs and I have to pause it every time I turn the car off, otherwise it continues to run and drain the battery.

    I've given some thought to investing a few hundred $$$'s to get a new head unit with both full iPod integration and Bluetooth; the ION has a double-DIN factory unit, so an aftermarket unit shouldn't be too tough to find.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    Liberty Media is taking over Sirius XM.

    Anyone care?

    (More at Reuters)

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  • berriberri Posts: 4,203
    Only if they cut the DJ blabber and lengthen the time between repeats. Personally, we didn't feel it was worth paying for because of those issues.
  • I purchased an es350 in August that came with a 90 trial of XM.
    Does Sirius notify you at the end of the trial or start billing you???
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,637
    they send you a letter. You have to sign up for something before they can start charging you.

    I just got mine from XM for the Acura I bought on 8/31.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • I made the mistake of installing xm in my car. I like classical and jazz. I never understood why they played excerpts from classical music-I thought something
    was wrong with the unit.

    I cancelled and uninstalled the unit from my car. Every month or so they try to get me back by offering the service for some unbelievably low price. Not to my taste.

    Ever since they merged they could care less about customers.
  • 4cyl w 90,000 mi. Both the brake light and the anti lock lights went on about 3 mos ago. I thought they would evenually disappear-brake fluid level was slightly low-addes fluid.

    They have not gone off. I have detected no problems-brakes feel fine. If I take it to have
    it looked at I am fearful of a ripoff. Has anyone had this problem? Thanks for any help.

    This was the wrong week to give up airplane glue.
  • When driving on smooth road-no problem but drive on a road with a few bumps or slight
    uneveness and the noise is deafening. Local garage said they couldn't find anything. The noise
    sounds like pieces of metal rattling around in the wheel well. Of course there is a tire there and
    the tire changing stuff is "nailed" down. Noise only comes from the rear. Other than this annoying problem all seems well. 90,000 mi. Any help would be appreciated.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    edited November 2012
    Try the Camry Brakes discussion.

    Liberty is taking over Sirius XM so more changes are likely coming.

    I did a 9 hour road trip today and just listened to my $5 MP3 gizmo through my radio for about 6 hours of that. I did miss trying to find some news stations, it being the aftermath of election day and all. But I wouldn't get my monies worth out of a monthly subscription.

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    "Sirius XM Radio Inc's grip on drivers is under an increasing threat as the availability of Internet connections in more cars is helping Pandora Media Inc counter some of its rival's big selling points.

    Sirius XM, which has its satellite radios in 70 percent of new vehicles, generates the vast majority of its revenue through subscriptions and derives only a fraction from advertising dollars. Streaming service Pandora is just the opposite, collecting most of its revenue from advertising and operating only a nascent subscription business.

    But the migration of music audiences to mobile devices threatens to upend a market that Sirius current dominates."

    In battle for the car, Sirius faces fight from Pandora (Reuters)

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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,692
    edited January 2013
    Data throttling, ever-increasing charges for excess data, spotty coverage and the inability of the mobile network to provide steady streaming of music without freezing and gaps as you move around at car speeds, all will conspire to limit Pandora's "threat" for now.

    Plus most sat radio is entirely commercial-free, which is worth a lot to me all by itself. I don't think sat radio can just sit on its hands, and it is certainly borderline too expensive, but I don't thnk Pandora is going to KO Sirius any time soon.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    edited January 2013
    ...but I don't thnk Pandora is going to KO Sirius any time soon.

    KO, no, not anytime soon, but faster than one might think.

    Right now, Sirius XM is the much bigger company, with almost 24 million subscribers and more than $3 billion in annual revenue. In the third quarter, it generated average revenue of $12.14 per subscriber.

    Pandora, by contrast has 60 million users, about 1 million of whom are paid subscribers, and is on track to generate $424 million in revenue this year.


    60 million is a lot more exposure than 24 million, and Pandora is aiming at the younger crowd market, a segment that is the future.

    "From the consumer standpoint, the reception advantages of satellite radio will be marginalized or go away over time," said a former Sirius XM executive familiar with the business models of the company and its competitors.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,637
    until they resolve the data usage dilemma, streaming is going to be a problem. It seems strange that there is this huge push toward using the phone to stream, but at the same time, the carriers are doing everything they can to limit your usage of it.

    just not enough bandwidth to go around.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    ...until they resolve the data usage dilemma, streaming is going to be a problem. It seems strange that there is this huge push toward using the phone to stream, but at the same time, the carriers are doing everything they can to limit your usage of it.

    Are the carriers really doing everything they can to limit your usage, or are they doing everything they can to make you pay for using it?

    It's a subtle, but very real, difference...
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,637
    yes, a nuance. They are setting up a system to suck as much money as possible out of the customers, which will likely have the result of people cutting back on usage.

    they are like drug dealers. Give out some free samples to get you hooked, then ratchet up the price when you are!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    ...they are like drug dealers. Give out some free samples to get you hooked, then ratchet up the price when you are!

    Good analogy.

    IMO, the wireless carriers see themselves as entitled to some of the gold they carry.

    In essence, its a sly way to change the business model... Sort of like me sending you $100 each week through the mail and one day the mailman says to himself..."Sure, you paid me to deliver the $100 by purchasing a stamp, but now that I realize I've been delivering something of value to you, in a reliable manner, I'm entitled to a little piece of the action as well".

    Carrying data only pays so much...a bit like "Time to increase the size of my piece of pie... Bigger piece of the same size pie, or same % of a bigger pie... ".

    Either one works...
  • Hi All,

    I have a 2011 Nissan Quest. It came with the free trial of XM, and I let it run out. A couple of weeks ago, I noticed the GPS was throwing up weather warnings - and sure enough XM is operating. I never re-subscribed - did this happen to anyone before?
  • sandman_6472sandman_6472 Coral Springs, FLPosts: 2,680
    They have this in a lot of the rental cars I drive and it's quite enjoyable to say the least! But if one has a large enough inventory of stored music on cd's or a flash drive, it can be almost as good for a fraction of the cost. That's just what I listen to when a vehicle has no SAT radio like yesterday. I really like the 60's and 70's channels but my flash drive does almost the same thing except they have more of a selection. I've only got about 675 on the drive and I eventually will rehear stuff but SAT radio has the better variety but it just costs so darn much if one can't get the the phone person to get you a lower rate. If my car had it I'd love it but hey, I don't even have a aux plug or a usb port in my '06 Civic, something I deperately miss. My next vehicle will definitely have it!

    The Sandman :) :sick: :shades:

    2014 Hyundai Tuscon SE/2005 Mazda 3s/2008 Hyundai Accent GLS/2009 Nissan Versa SL hatch

  • berriberri Posts: 4,203
    Every once in awhile they will reactivate for a week or two at no cost trying to get you to resubscribe. I think the latest promo around here ends today. A few days ago I was taking a long drive and decided to tune it in. But it was the same thing; constant DJ blabber, listener phone ins, etc. Within 20 minutes I was back to my CD's. I want to listen to music, not DJ's and phone ins. Just reaffirmed for me my decision to let it lapse.
  • Hi Steve, after I bought my 2013 Subaru Forester, 5-speed MT, with mix/match add-ons I wanted, I spent the most money of any after-build item on a Sirius sattalite radio install. Not even the version with a blue LED panel sitting over the gear shifter. This one looks like nothing was ever added, but I do pick up maybe 5 channels of not classic rock, try a Spanish station playing music that 1st came out on 78's! The auto-trim shop that activated my free trial period didn't send me anything but a channel line up, no good if proramming it is what I needed. a pro-car-audio installer, my salesman showed up, sat next to me dazed & confused, waste of both our time. Unless it starts doing what every reference on the Sirius models I studied-up on tells me it will do well. It stays only an annoyance and embarrassment to any passenger hearing junk just turned their ride with me something they should hav brough their own MP3 player. When free trial runs out I will call Sirius and cancel their incomplete features. Increasing the volume just distorts the sound bad, and honestly out of 140 commercial free but puntuated by motor-mouthed DJ's singing this radio's praises is worse than commercials. When the freebie 140 channels only have maybe 10 stations playing tinny music on a loop, with just one soft-rock elevator music that comes in then fades out and the Elvis channel takes over :cry: offering balanced out against around 100 channels of sports, news, comedy, financial, weather, chat-shows, bible thumpers, and all the junk I don't want to hear like it's coming out of a mono 8-track fossil! Not a so called state of the art music breakthrogh complete with genres, jerks, J-birds and aging has-beens. I will leave it insde the dash LED display, but if Siruis wants to get serious, then I expect crystal clear perfect recetption, complete with eyes-on scrolling artist facts, from the album titile, track, released year and genre. Too picky U say? :mad: Go listen to it in one of your loca auto dealerships for a good feel on just how sub-standard Sirius is no cheap waste of your cash, and tell me U don't slip a CD into the bay to hear what your favorite music is supposed to sound like before you even have one of these junkers put into your honey of a new Subaru Forester, I double-dog-dare-U! I asked the Sirius sales ep why my reception was so horrible, her answer "It depends where you are an certain stations only come through clear close to a wi-fi relay-tower. I'll remember that next trip I take to New Mexico, or Alaska! :sick: Steve, your feedback would be useful. I really wanted the Sirus music-only deal, but if living miles from a relay tower, then I my as well switch and keep it off. :mad:
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,813
    Maybe I misunderstood, but you had an aftermarket unit installed? I'd take it back and try a different model, sounds like you got a lemon. Maybe find a better shop as well. I'd be unhappy too. Does Subaru not have the service available in a factory stereo unit?

    I just bought a new car, and had an aftermarket unit in my old car. The Sirius trial was already active, and I simply migrated the old subscription over, took about 15 minutes on the phone. Went off without a hitch. Everything works perfectly in the new integrated unit, and some stations even offer year of release info.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    I haven't listened to Sirius since we house sat for a few weeks near Taos about 3 years ago. The "coffee house" channel was enjoyable.

    Being frugal, I got a $5 FM transmitter gizmo for playing MP3s on a USB stick when I'm in my old Outback and can't pick up anything on the radio. But I'm no audiophile.

    It does sound like you got a lousy install or unit. Maybe you can swing by the dealer and listen to an OEM one and compare notes.

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  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,490
    edited March 2013
    I'll begin by saying it sounds like your equipment installation was improperly done, or you have a defective or poorly designed unit. So, verify its not your problem before proceeding.

    Having made that clear, its important to note that for the average listener, most will be satisfied by the quality is Satellite radio music.

    However, one with exceptionally good ears, or a true audiophile may not be very pleased with the sound quality of satellite-transmitted music, even when it's at its best. Just as the MP3/4 format deletes part of the audible frequency range (to compact the signal) and will never sound as good as a .wav file, satellite transmission does that even more. Occasionally, you can hear a song over Sirius/XM that sounds like one of the stereophonic tracks got lost, but I don't notice it very often.

    If it really bugs you, I suggest you simply listen to CDs. That way, you get the next best thing to a pristine analog album.
  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    edited April 2013
    "Startup automaker Detroit Electric plans to be the first without a radio when it rolls out its first car in August — audio will be delivered via smartphone.

    "AM and FM as a delivering mechanism isn't going to be the most important in cars anymore," said Thilo Koslowski, a vice president at technology research firm Gartner Inc."

    Automakers tuning out traditional in-car radios (Detroit News)

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,637
    are they planning to pay the $200/month data bill for all that streaming too?

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (daughter stole that one), and 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again)

  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 40,860
    edited April 2013
    Even worse, you'll pay for the data and still get swamped with commercials.

    Just like cable TV.

    Que the Tremeloes :-)

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,432
    what caught my interest was a carmaker I hadn't heard of. Sooo... what's with this company and why are they building what seems to be exactly what Tesla started with?

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

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