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XM & Sirius Satellite Radio

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,585
    I am down to only 2. I did not bother to get a new portable unit for the Volvo (my accord was built in). My daughter actually prefers FM (kids!), and there are enough stations on that I can live with it, since I don't drive much. For trips, I can use the ipod in the AUX jack (handy), or the 6 CD changer.

    In our van, the adapter I put in also runs the ipod, so if I took it away from the wife, she would live with ipod and FM (and ipod for travel).

    My son is the one that bugged to keep it, for his drive back and forth from the wilderness, but the Acura does have a CD player (changer I think, but not sure!). He just doesn't have many CDs (everything on the ipod). Should just get him an adapter and cut the cord!

    will likely go back when we get a new car for my wife since most likely it will all be integrated.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • michaellmichaell Posts: 4,300
    The wife's CX-7 has a Sirius subscription that expires in September. Not sure if I'm gonna renew.

    The car has an AUX port and a 6-CD changer, but I'm thinking about adding iPod compatibility to it so it will charge the iPod and allow the steering wheel controls to be used.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,585
    most of the new stuff we are considering seems to have ipod integration already accounted for.

    One of the things I don't like about the ipod is not being able to see the info on the radio display. not convenient or safe to have to pick up the ipod itself to change things.

    in our van, the USAspec unit we installed does charge the ipod, and integrates to the radio buttons, just not the display. So I can skip songs, but not see what is on 9or do any other ipod functions),

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • michaellmichaell Posts: 4,300
    most of the new stuff we are considering seems to have ipod integration already accounted for.

    In our fleet, only the daughter's MINI has full iPod integration with a separate cable. The ION and CX-7 only have an AUX port.

    The wife does not use her iPod in the CX-7 - she doesn't like to have to look at the iPod for controls, and it runs the charge down. (She doesn't like the Bose unit in our house either as that doesn't charge the iPod)

    OTOH, I do use my iPod in the ION when I'm delivering pizzas. Yes, it's a pain to have to use the iPod to skip songs and I have to pause it every time I turn the car off, otherwise it continues to run and drain the battery.

    I've given some thought to investing a few hundred $$$'s to get a new head unit with both full iPod integration and Bluetooth; the ION has a double-DIN factory unit, so an aftermarket unit shouldn't be too tough to find.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    Liberty Media is taking over Sirius XM.

    Anyone care?

    (More at Reuters)
  • berriberri Posts: 4,004
    Only if they cut the DJ blabber and lengthen the time between repeats. Personally, we didn't feel it was worth paying for because of those issues.
  • I purchased an es350 in August that came with a 90 trial of XM.
    Does Sirius notify you at the end of the trial or start billing you???
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,585
    they send you a letter. You have to sign up for something before they can start charging you.

    I just got mine from XM for the Acura I bought on 8/31.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • I made the mistake of installing xm in my car. I like classical and jazz. I never understood why they played excerpts from classical music-I thought something
    was wrong with the unit.

    I cancelled and uninstalled the unit from my car. Every month or so they try to get me back by offering the service for some unbelievably low price. Not to my taste.

    Ever since they merged they could care less about customers.
  • 4cyl w 90,000 mi. Both the brake light and the anti lock lights went on about 3 mos ago. I thought they would evenually disappear-brake fluid level was slightly low-addes fluid.

    They have not gone off. I have detected no problems-brakes feel fine. If I take it to have
    it looked at I am fearful of a ripoff. Has anyone had this problem? Thanks for any help.

    This was the wrong week to give up airplane glue.
  • When driving on smooth road-no problem but drive on a road with a few bumps or slight
    uneveness and the noise is deafening. Local garage said they couldn't find anything. The noise
    sounds like pieces of metal rattling around in the wheel well. Of course there is a tire there and
    the tire changing stuff is "nailed" down. Noise only comes from the rear. Other than this annoying problem all seems well. 90,000 mi. Any help would be appreciated.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    edited November 2012
    Try the Camry Brakes discussion.

    Liberty is taking over Sirius XM so more changes are likely coming.

    I did a 9 hour road trip today and just listened to my $5 MP3 gizmo through my radio for about 6 hours of that. I did miss trying to find some news stations, it being the aftermath of election day and all. But I wouldn't get my monies worth out of a monthly subscription.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,968
    "Sirius XM Radio Inc's grip on drivers is under an increasing threat as the availability of Internet connections in more cars is helping Pandora Media Inc counter some of its rival's big selling points.

    Sirius XM, which has its satellite radios in 70 percent of new vehicles, generates the vast majority of its revenue through subscriptions and derives only a fraction from advertising dollars. Streaming service Pandora is just the opposite, collecting most of its revenue from advertising and operating only a nascent subscription business.

    But the migration of music audiences to mobile devices threatens to upend a market that Sirius current dominates."

    In battle for the car, Sirius faces fight from Pandora (Reuters)
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    edited January 2013
    Data throttling, ever-increasing charges for excess data, spotty coverage and the inability of the mobile network to provide steady streaming of music without freezing and gaps as you move around at car speeds, all will conspire to limit Pandora's "threat" for now.

    Plus most sat radio is entirely commercial-free, which is worth a lot to me all by itself. I don't think sat radio can just sit on its hands, and it is certainly borderline too expensive, but I don't thnk Pandora is going to KO Sirius any time soon.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,448
    edited January 2013
    ...but I don't thnk Pandora is going to KO Sirius any time soon.

    KO, no, not anytime soon, but faster than one might think.

    Right now, Sirius XM is the much bigger company, with almost 24 million subscribers and more than $3 billion in annual revenue. In the third quarter, it generated average revenue of $12.14 per subscriber.

    Pandora, by contrast has 60 million users, about 1 million of whom are paid subscribers, and is on track to generate $424 million in revenue this year.


    60 million is a lot more exposure than 24 million, and Pandora is aiming at the younger crowd market, a segment that is the future.

    "From the consumer standpoint, the reception advantages of satellite radio will be marginalized or go away over time," said a former Sirius XM executive familiar with the business models of the company and its competitors.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,585
    until they resolve the data usage dilemma, streaming is going to be a problem. It seems strange that there is this huge push toward using the phone to stream, but at the same time, the carriers are doing everything they can to limit your usage of it.

    just not enough bandwidth to go around.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,448
    ...until they resolve the data usage dilemma, streaming is going to be a problem. It seems strange that there is this huge push toward using the phone to stream, but at the same time, the carriers are doing everything they can to limit your usage of it.

    Are the carriers really doing everything they can to limit your usage, or are they doing everything they can to make you pay for using it?

    It's a subtle, but very real, difference...
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 13,585
    yes, a nuance. They are setting up a system to suck as much money as possible out of the customers, which will likely have the result of people cutting back on usage.

    they are like drug dealers. Give out some free samples to get you hooked, then ratchet up the price when you are!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • busirisbusiris Posts: 3,448
    ...they are like drug dealers. Give out some free samples to get you hooked, then ratchet up the price when you are!

    Good analogy.

    IMO, the wireless carriers see themselves as entitled to some of the gold they carry.

    In essence, its a sly way to change the business model... Sort of like me sending you $100 each week through the mail and one day the mailman says to himself..."Sure, you paid me to deliver the $100 by purchasing a stamp, but now that I realize I've been delivering something of value to you, in a reliable manner, I'm entitled to a little piece of the action as well".

    Carrying data only pays so much...a bit like "Time to increase the size of my piece of pie... Bigger piece of the same size pie, or same % of a bigger pie... ".

    Either one works...
  • Hi All,

    I have a 2011 Nissan Quest. It came with the free trial of XM, and I let it run out. A couple of weeks ago, I noticed the GPS was throwing up weather warnings - and sure enough XM is operating. I never re-subscribed - did this happen to anyone before?
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