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Honda Element

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  • sebski21sebski21 Posts: 10
    Last night I filled up and paid $1.79 per gallon in Illinois which is about the same as the US average. However the price I paid was very low at the local Shell station.
    I calculated my last MPG and I got an average of 26.23 (355.4 miles/13.551G). I drove a mixed conditions of 50% city and 50% highway. Plus a couple tips which most of you certainly know:
    - rather slow acceleration (The Element can't match those youngsters in their sports cars anyway) from full stops
    - hardly ever exceeded 65 mph (lately I got a warning for driving 64 in a 55 speed zone)
    - I had no need for A/C lately however that is changing with the weather
    - I didn't overweight the car (except with my own 275 lb :) [and I'm not fat, I'm big 6'5"]
    That's it. I think there's still place to go. But the average of 26.23 is satisfactory already, isn't it?
  • hal9001hal9001 Posts: 28
    Is your E AWD or FWD, auto or manual??????????
  • sebski21sebski21 Posts: 10
    I'm sorry, I should have specified this. It's a FWD with automatic transmission. (By the way, I regret I haven't got AWD...).
  • schweikbschweikb Posts: 111
    A couple of quick questions:
    1. Was the 26.23 mpg for the entire 2,000 miles or just for the 355.4 miles? I have found that you usually get some variability in how many actual gallons go in each time you fill it depending on lots of things (your accuracy, impatience, the ambient temperature, the specific nozzle you're using, etc). The best way to do mpg check is over a minimum of 5 or 6 fill ups so the discrepancies even out.
    2. I am not as tall as you (I'm 6' 2") but always find seat comfort an issue. How do you find the seats (especially the lower cushion) in the Element? I have only driven it briefly and it seemed OK, but lots of other cars I've driven leave my leg cramping up over time if the bottom cushion is too short front to rear (all Toyotas for example).
    Thanks
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Your mileage is great. Don't change your driving habits, in fact you outta write a book! ;-)

    -juice
  • ronzoronzo Posts: 2
    My 2003 Element was purchased last September and currently has 10,500 miles on it. I have been very pleased with the vehicle over all. It continues to surprise me every time I need to use it to carry items from 6"x6"x8'boards to 10 old tires when I was cleaning out the garage. The over all design is great. We bought the EX model and have since added roof rack, steps, fog lights, remote entry etc. This morning we found a 6" crack in the windshield. I contacted the dealer & it looks like they will take care of it. However, I do not want to keep running to the dealer to get my windshield replaced. Does anyone know if Honda has a cure for this or should I consider a trade in. If I keep the car what do I do when it runs out of warantee if they have not solved the problem. .
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Didn't Honda issue a TSB? I'm sure the dealer will install it properly, taking into account the advice provided by Honda.

    -juice
  • ronzoronzo Posts: 2
    I really love the Element so I just hope they can straighten out the windshield problem. Thanks!
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    The TSB is number 03-028. The problem has to do with an uneven surface under the windshield surface. They can literally hammer it flat. Then install new glass.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Sheesh, the guy's a walking talking encyclopedia. ;-)

    -juice
  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    On my resume it reads, "ambulatory, articulating compendium"... right under the line where it describes me as a big mouth.
  • hal9001hal9001 Posts: 28
    ...on July 3. I love it. Filled the tank for the first time awhile ago. Got 20+mpg which isn't bad for a tight engine (AWD, Auto). And this is assuming that the tank was filled to the top at the dealer. I just realized tonight that I never have to flip the rear view mirror the way I did in my Corolla. I sit high enough that everyones lights don't shine through the rear window.
    And Ozzy and White Zombie just ROCK on that stereo. Who sez ya gotta grow up??? I'm 53!!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Just don't drive like you're in the Crazy Train.

    Congrats. What color?

    -juice
  • sebski21sebski21 Posts: 10
    1. The first 1,5oo miles I averaged 24.57mpg. The last 1,ooo it was 26.12mpg. I always fill up at one station (however, different nozzles). Yes, sometimes I drive more before a fill-up, but I think the nozzles are about the same at my local gas station.
    2. I think being 6'5" I got used to some discomfort as it comes to seating. Maybe when I own the Hummer the discomfort will go away. Actually the E is the biggest car I have ever had. Guys, I owned cars back in Europe where Mini Cooper is considered a midsize! But still driving my VW Polo on autobahn in Deutschland was a real pleasure! And the mileage was 54mpg... (diesel)
  • hal9001hal9001 Posts: 28
    Actually, this vehicle seems to make me want to drive very serenely. What also helps is that I've just moved to an area outside of Minneapolis where I use county roads (45-50 mph limit) instead of freeways most of the time. Also, the freeways in the city are mostly 55 mph and there's a lot of radar activity, so I pretty much keep near the limit. I suspect that 45-55 may be where the E gets its best mileage given the lack of aerodynamic shape. I'm also acutely aware of the fact that I will get REALLY crappy gas mileage if I get aggressive. Color is Shoreline Mist.....
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Shoreline Mist? Translation, please? Is that a green or blue?

    -juice
  • anonymouspostsanonymousposts Posts: 4,202
    Shoreline Mist is the light gold color.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I never would have guessed. Not sure I've seen one of those. I probably have, I just don't remember.

    -juice
  • hal9001hal9001 Posts: 28
    To me, shoreline mist looks like a darker silver with just a hint of a brownish bronze tint. The main reason I got it is that this particular color comes with the darker interior. Also I think that SM and the lighter silver would show dirt (and road salt) a little less. I saw one just like mine today parked at a store. I was tempted to park right next to him/her.
  • calbearscalbears Posts: 3
    Anyone heard what is new for 2005? Will they include homelink?
  • deepdropdeepdrop Posts: 89
    Our Honda dealer says the 2004 Honda Element has side curtain airbags available as an option. I have not been able to confirm this anywhere. I do know that side airbags are available, but I have not seen anything about side curtains. Can anyone tell me for sure if they are available? Thanks.
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    These are the rumors I have heard and read about. No major physical/body changes at all, which I guess is typical of Honda. Here's the rest. Models will stay pretty much the way they are for 2005. Some color changes are coming including Rally Red, Cargo Khaki and Magnesium Metallic. Exterior composite panels will come in Black, Gray and Blue depending on your choice of exterior color. A passenger side power door lock switch is also being considered. Other rumors: XM Radio standard on EX model, Standard chrome exhaust tip, Revised antenna, New blue or black cladding, Standard side airbags, Cruise on LX.
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    That, I believe, is entirely UNTRUE.
  • footiefootie Posts: 636
    Our 2004 E FWD / 5 spd is the worst handling vehicle we've ever owned in inclement conditions. It 'rained' here in the Boston area off and on over the last few weeks.

    ANYTIME, the streets were damp and slightly slippery, starting from a stop and accelerating is a very tricky deal with this vehicle.

    It's even slippery on woodchips and mulch. This 'car' needs some kind of limited slip differntial for the 2wd drive versions.

    We got the E thinking that it would be great for our upcoming young drivers, since Honda had targeted the youth market. I can't believe they even sell the 2wd vehicle. Young, inexperienced drivers can't help but be in trouble with this puppy.

    FYI it's going in next week for a new overhead light (makes wierd sounds when going off), a dash rattle (4 hours min to take apart and reassemble) and a nasty squeaking sound in the clutch pedal.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,646
    I would doubt that homelink will be an option on an Element. Most people don't care about it on the cars that do have it.
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,646
    Not so! Side bags are an option but these are few and far between!
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    Huh? Side-Airbags, YES, are an option. They are in the sides of the front seats. I have them. Side-"CURTAIN" airbags, are NOT an option. Those are the airbags that are usually in the front A pillars of vehicles, or above the front windows/frames (ie, Passat).
  • ztorinztorin Posts: 48
    I too am in the Boston area and drove around during last week's rain. I however, do have the 4WD, (AT) but very rarely do I find myself slipping so much that the 4WD actually kicks in. Must be the more peppy 5-SPD. I went with the 4WD specifically because I know how the New England winters can be, and could no longer drive (or have FUN driving) my front-wheel drive Corolla. Back roads SUCKED in that thing. Never a major problem, but it was always scary taking off from a start in the deep white stuff.
  • footiefootie Posts: 636
    I am always surprised when the front-end breaks loose from a standing start on damp pavement. If you goose it even a little bit, like trying to break into a slot in traffic, it just lurches forward, the front wheels spin and the nose heads to the right from torque steer.

    Can you tell when the 4WD kicks in? Is there a light on the dash or something?

    I've been in the Boston area for over 20 years and my last M/T car was an AWD Turbo Laser. It was a blast in the winter. But we had a Sable wagon that my wife drove and it was FWD and never exhibited the slippery nature that the E has.

    My kids don't even want to learn to drive in this thing.

    Thanks
  • isellhondasisellhondas Issaquah WashingtonPosts: 17,646
    My fault...I missed the CURTAIN part. That's correct. At this point side curtain bags aren't an option. No doubt this will change at some point I would expect.
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