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Honda Element



  • There's always one person who insists Honda quality is going down while there ten people who get 150,000 miles with no problems. My 03 Accord with the same 2.4L the Element uses has been awesome in it's first 8 months and 16,000 miles.
  • To varmint and ateixeira, thanks for your feedback.

    I'm now at peace with going after the CR-V, vs. the Element (still the car I love). The CR-V does fit my family's practical needs better, and I DO like the car a lot. So we'll probably be in a V instead of an E by this time next year.

    (I just posted on the CR-V Access. & Mods. board, to see if anyone had done any mods to give their CR-V a sportier ride. I'm anxious to see what replies I get.)

    Well, thanks again. I'll still be hanging around this forum, as the Element is still the car for me.

    Although only in my dreams.

    For now.

  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    I wonder how different I am from most shoppers looking at the Element. I'm not planning on driving it off-road at all - only through occasional heavy snow and ice - most of the time I'll be on the freeway. So while ground clearance is something to think about for the occasional heavy snow, it isn't a big deal for me at all. My needs would be met better by the Element than the CRV, so that's the way we'll go if we end up buying a Honda.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think it's one of those "nice to have" things that most people never use, at least rarely.

    Ask yourself, how many times did you bottom out in your last car or truck? If you say never, then it wasn't really much of an issue.

  • Hmmmm, Let me think.
    When was the last time I drove in snow here in South Florida? Never.
    Standing rain a foot deep? 2 days ago when Tropical Storm Erika (then just a tropical depression) passed over us.

    I'm with ateixeria, nice to have but ride is more important.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Driving in standing water is dangerous anyway. I saw an SUV drive into a ditch the driver could not see. The water is level and you can't see holes the ground! Careful out there...

  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,970
    I sure would like to have another inch or two in my minivan, even if it would affect the entry height. But the approach angles are what really kill me - with the front overhang, I'm always scraping the front bumper going over little dips or speed bumps.

    My MV ground clearance is 5.8" - the Element is 6.9" so that'll help a lot. That's just a tad less than my Outback's 7.3" and I've had it on some rough roads without scraping anything.

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  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That's about all most people will need. I think the Element and Outback offer a good compromise between clearance and center of gravity. That's why we don't see customers screaming for stability control. On taller SUVs it should be standard.

  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    For my first few years with my CR-V, I lived in a condo complex that had it's own parking lot. The town plows would leave a mound of snow at our entrance. This past winter, when we had 22-26" of snow on the roads, I used the CR-V to clear a quick path for my wife's TL. There are times when GC helps.

    That said, I think Steve is correct with respect to approach and departure angles. You won't get over any obstacle if the bumper prevents the wheels from reaching it.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    How 'bout a shovel? :o)

  • varmintvarmint Posts: 6,326
    After buying a house on today's market, who can afford a shovel!

    My driveway is too long to do that easily. and besides, I pay a guy to plow it. I'm not going to do half the job before he shows up!
  • weelzweelz Posts: 20
    Was un-aware of posting links.My apologies.

    ateixeira I bought the ECHO hatch which is only available in Canada and also in Europe and Australia under the name Yaris & Vitz.The Scion is not sold in Canada.

    I have nothing against Honda I have driven them before without problem.I just feel this vehicle is too "new" for me.Maybe the 04's will address some of the "quirks".

    It may have come in handy last night as the power was out so we could have slept in the car :)
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I shovel it myself (note to self: re-negotiate that chore with wife).

    It's easier to shovel fresh snow that hasn't been driven over and packed down, of course. But then again, you're not shoveling it, so who cares!

    Yes, Element owners that lost power quickly discovered what a great "tent" it makes.

  • irnmdnirnmdn Posts: 240
    Taken from edmunds Consumer Ratings & Reviews here

    We are 60 years old and need a single vehicle to do every thing. The Element is perfect. I took trash to the dump after hanging the rear seats up on the wall. Works greate.
  • bowke28bowke28 Posts: 2,185
    when i sold hondas, i sold the first E in the dealership. my customers were a married was 65, woman was 63.

    weelz...the element is almost entirely from honda's parts bin. for most of the vehicle, especially the powertrain, its been around awhile.
  • weelzweelz Posts: 20
    Obviously that did not come from the same bin.

    Seems like a design flaw to me.For Honda to put out a service bulletin on it there has to be some type of problem.The ball peen hammer diagram fix did just not appeal to me and almost looked primitive for a fix on a modern vehicle.It just seemed to me when I drove it the windsheild was too flat and would be catching rocks and debris.Maybe they will have it worked out with the next re-design of the vehicle or perhaps it has already been addressed with this fix.
  • gee35coupegee35coupe Posts: 3,475
    demographic of all car models according to Automotive News Magazine. So they are doing okay. You gotta think how many young people can afford a $19,000 Element vs. older people. Most younger folk buy used cars.

    That Echo hatch looks like a nice ride. I read about that one also in the Automotive News magazine. I'm jealous of you Canadians.
  • Looked at a CR-V tonight as a possible other than to an Accord 4 door or an Element and came away feeling that I would be happier with the Element or Accord. My 6'6 man barely fit in it. It would've been doable but why sacrifice when you have the Element.
  • bwiens1bwiens1 Posts: 3
    Thought I would add a post for those in the frenzy of car shopping:
    We now have 3,000 miles on our 4WD EX Auto w/side bag Element and are absolutely thrilled. Some things of note inlcude that we are a young family with a 2.5 year old and another on the way and find the rear seats are ideal for child seat access. This is an awesome kid car! We load it with kid and crap, just back from the beach, and everything fits and works so well. The back tailgate is ideal for diaper changing and our son can climb all around and spill his food and we don't worry. All our guests love the rear seats. Surfboard on top, practically Wal Mart inside. I mountain bike a lot and my bike does fit easily inside standing up with no wheel removal.
    No wind noise problems. Drive to San Diego a lot and cruise 75-80 on I15 with no problem climbing hills or passing. RPM at 3,100 or so, feels smooth. Also, I live at 6,000 feet and have no problem climbing the hill home. Even the auto transmission is geared to not jump around. Very smooth and quick acceleration.

    Back moonlight does require the optional screen which I installed myself, wish it was a solid slide out, that is silly.

    Got rear ended in my brand new car already at about 5-10mph. Scratches and cosmetic damage to Element, destroyed front bumber and grill on Chevy Silverado? Wouldn't have expected that. Don't have repair estimate yet.

    The auto tranny lever is so great where it is and does not interfere with anything. Quite the contrary, I don't have to look at it to feel it and shift when you are maneuvering around parking areas D-R-D-R...

    Speaking of which, the turning radius is divine! Better than our Camry wagon we sold.

    Getting too long, but just wanted to let people on the fence know that we are happier and happier with our Element and are seeing new ones driving around all over SoCal. Critical mass I think.
  • mtngalmtngal Posts: 1,911
    It is nice to know that you have no problems. I got a similar report from my neighbor with an auto. How do you find it getting on the freeway? I test drove one and thought it would not have problems with freeway on-ramps, but wondered what you thought.

    And yes, there are more and more on the road. Last night I saw my second Scion on the road. When I first saw both vehicles at the LA Auto Show I thought they were very similar. Now I can't imagine why I ever thought that - they are really quite different, and the Element wins all the way!
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