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  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla MarylandPosts: 700
    Could always just tie your horn in with your brakes, so that everytime you brake... the horn goes off.

    (Saw this on the most recent season of Top Gear... and it was hysterically funny to see)
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,325
    When you see that the rich pay far less in taxes than they have in all of recent history for the US then you start to wonder about those "successful" people.

    Somehow all the tax exemptions, loop holes, and benefits seem to only be designed for the 1%.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    edited May 2013
    Got behind an X5 (with commercial plates, another scam for a few) merging onto a freeway tonight. Started off very slow, driver fumbling with something - maybe dropped a phone or cig or kid. Then floors it, veers left and crosses a few lanes at once - no signal of course. Could this happen in any other vehicle?

    On foot, saw a Hummer H1 (really) crowd into a crosswalk when the crosswalk had green. Does any other vehicle announce as loudly that the driver is a dbag with size issues? Deserves a few hits with a baseball bat.

    Lots of phone yappers tonight, and really bad light sequencing for both drivers and pedestrians alike.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    Coming in to work this morning around 0540 - so a little light in the sky, but all streetlights on, along with lights in parking lots and around commercial buildings etc - it is still pretty dark, especially in the shade. I think about a third of the cars I saw (admittedly not a huge number) had no lights on, or even better, just parking lights. Do people like to be as invisible as possible? What's the mindset there?

    And on the way in, a woman in an S60 shot past me on a 40mph road. I paced her - she was going ~65-70 from what I could tell, dropped it to maybe 55 when the limit changed to 35. She later made an abrupt unsignalled turn into an office complex parking lot - maybe spooked that I was pacing her.
  • whahappanwhahappan Posts: 69
    Not true. The percentage of taxes the rich pay has gone up in recent years. Media coverage would lead you to believe that the Bush tax cuts went mainly to the rich, but the majority went to the less well off. This is not to defend loopholes, as the tax code is insanely complicated and arbitrary.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    A lot of it is just semantics. In the end, we've still embarked on a weird trickle down/"job creator" experiment that has failed. But that's something for another forum.

    Out today, sunny hot day here, not as bad as I would imagined. Main issues were lack of signals on so many cars, and SLOW turners. Is it necessary to go around a wide open corner at 4mph?
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,006
    Talked to an old friend out in Salem today and was surprised to hear it was in the 80s there. We managed 46.

    The chill did keep traffic light; took the van out for a spin and "blew it out" on a back road just a mile from the city limits. Didn't see a single car coming or going on an 8 mile round trip along the lake shore. If someone is inconsiderate in the boonies, does it count? You could have some fun around here but every cop in the county would know learn name and plate in about two hours of zooming around since everyone would be talking about you.

    Need help navigating? - or send a private message by clicking on my name.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    It was 85 here in the eastern Seattle suburbs. Should be about as warm tomorrow. which will have some fried brains and oblivious traffic - I am not planning to drive anywhere. Will be going on a little road trip to the coast in a few days, less traffic will be nice.

    Craziest thing about our early hot spell is that Wednesday morning was frosty and cold here.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    edited May 2013
    Out on foot this morning, saw two crosswalk crowders - one a dopey greybeard in an Infiniti FX - realized he was going against red and floored it, so had to dodge him and then hear the douchedrone of that "tuned" exhaust. Thanks. Then a similar move by a frazzled hausfrau in a RX hybrid - sounded just as terrible in a different way when she actually found the accelerator. And saw a small woman with a dumb cap and a ponytail apparently texting while driving a late model Suburban. We've really hit a point where vehicles of a certain mass or even height need to have a special license endorsement.

    Then I was on the road. Got behind an Oregon plated high particulate early 00s diesel Ford truck, dorky idiotic religious sticker on the canopy, weaving all over in its own lane when not making unsignalled lane changes, finally got around it when the road widened. Not a minute later, an Oregon plated Tundra turns left from a side street right in front of me as I am going ~35 - I went around him and he had to stare at me like I had just spit on the pope. Then was sitting at a light where a 1 lane road gains a lane at the intersection. One of our likely new residents in a gold Odyssey tries to crowd in to get into that lane maybe 8 car lengths before it begins, by driving on the shoulder. Missed me by a couple inches - had he hit me, I probably would have dragged him out and slammed the door on his head. I noticed when he turned, he was going well under the limit and straddling both lanes :confuse: Topped it off by getting stuck behind a similar Sienna going well under the limit with a line behind it, "driver" preoccupied with the passengers. First world country, you say? Racing to the bottom...
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,325
    Changing lanes without signaling is a serious offense in my book.

    Changing lanes without signaling and causing another vehicle to alter its speed to avoid hitting you is doubly serious.

    Changing lanes from two lanes over without signaling and causing another vehicle to slow down rapidly to avoid hitting you is triply serious.]

    Yesterday, I had a car change lanes from two lanes over without signaling, forcing me to hit the brakes hard to avoid hitting them (as they were pretty much going sideways across the road) and I was going at about the SL of 40, and then they turn into a parking lot entrance on the right which has a big ramp that somewhat forces them to enter extra slow (causing me to brake even longer and harder).

    It's one thing to cut across lanes to make a late right turn onto a roadway, quite another to do so just so you can get into a parking lot in my opinion (which forces you to slow way down much slower than a 90 degree right turn would).

    I would give them a quadruple fine for this.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    edited May 2013
    I got stuck behind what looked like a typical exec (overdressed) idiot in a later model A4 Avant who never used a signal in 5-6 turns, was distracted by something in the car (ICE, I think), and generally drove slowly and pensively. Got behind him pulling out of my office complex - he wouldn't turn left until there was nobody coming for blocks. Then just randomly and slowly drove until I finally was able to go another direction.

    He wasn't the only dumb Audi. Had a close call in a green signal crosswalk with a new Q5 driven by a teenager who was probably another devilspawn son of a bought their way in type from a place where Audi is huge. I guess if you can buy your way out of accountability, no reason to pay attention. The Audi brand was topped off by another guy in an older A4 Avant I saw who blatantly ran a light while holding a phone.

    Also saw a middle aged woman driving a gigantic Dodge diesel truck, phone in her hand, couldn't keep it in one lane, and made an insanely bad wide turn with no signal. Should be a four figure ticket at the very least.

    Had no close calls while on the road, anyway. But did get stuck in a backup because those who couldn't engineer their way out of a wet paper bag had a turn lane light only let 4-5 cars through. There was a couple block long backup when it changed again. Good enough for government work.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,325
    There is no reason for people to be merging right while people are trying to merge into the freeway merging left.

    If there is an exit close ahead I can understand this, but why get in a conflict by trying to merge right into the spaces people in the on-ramp are obviously going to need by merging left? There is no reason for a car to be moving right unless they are holding up faster traffic behind them, or there is an upcoming exit to the right, and most importantly, that exit should be within a 1/4 mile.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    Of course, to save space, there are many interchanges where people enter and leave the highway on the same piece of pavement. The locals panic on those and really crawl.

    I usually move right to exit as soon as I am physically past the preceding exit (watching out for mergers, of course), as you never know when you might get stuck.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    Have spent several hours on state and interstate highways the past few days. The good: few LLCs, few speedtraps, no insane speeders or slowpokes, only saw phone yappers on city streets. The bad (especially this morning): lack of turn signal use, tailgating, and variable speed. The latter irked me a bit - an old Exploder was passed by me and then passed me maybe 4x in 50 miles - my cruise control was on.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,170
    In August.

    my daughter was reading an article off the Net before, that the state is spending something like 6 mill starting 7/28 for IIRC a month to carpet bomb the state in speeding tickets on all the major highways. New unmarked cars, OT, etc. One part I remember was that they were expected to write a ticket every 10-12 minutes, and that 5 over was plenty.

    Sadly, no mention about using all this extra manpower to go after LLCs, distracted drivers, or anyone that is actually dangerous on the road.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,325
    edited May 2013
    If just 25% of those people ticketed would take the time and energy to "FIGHT THAT TICKET!," we'd no longer have a problem in NJ.

    The courts and the system would come crashing down. They'd have to schedule court dates years in advance.

    People could then file motions that they were denied a right to a speedy trial (never waive time unless you have good reason to). This would further clog the courts with motion hearings, and with the corrupt courts sure to wrongfully deny these motions, the appeals courts would then be clogged by appealers that were wronged by the lower court improperly judging the motion to dismiss due to lack of a speedy trial.

    At this point in time the State would try to sneak in new legislation that says "never mind the Constitution or Due Process or the Bill of Rights, bypassing motions and appeals by setting up some sort of Kangaroo court that would be done by an "administrative hearing" by a partial person on the payroll of that very institution trying to extort money out of citizen's hands.

    If you want an example see AB 666 or SB 1313 or 1303?? in CA trying to bypass these (I'm sure the politicians think) outdated foundations of our Country in the name of safety I'm sure. :sick: :mad: :cry:

    Less than 1% of red light accidents are caused by right turns on red, which is where the majority of the money being made lies.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    edited May 2013
    Cash talks, something else walks - that's the foundation of traffic law enforcement. Hmmm I wonder if monumentally well paid judges and revenue enforcement officers receive tickets at the same rates as other people - I bet they don't. The most untouchable segment of the working world, totally without accountability.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,325
    They absolutely don't pay their "fair" share in traffic fine taxing. Ask any insurance agent, law enforcement personnel enjoy extra low insurance rates in large part because they don't receive tickets.

    Do they drive following the law from A to Z 100% of the time? I think we all know the answer to that is no. They benefit from the good fol' boys club of law enforcement, and "professional" courtesies when they are pulled over.

    Even fire fighters and probation officers benefit from professional courtesy, just not as to a high degree as police officers.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,320
    "go after LLCs, distracted drivers, or anyone that is actually dangerous on the road. "

    The LLC may or might be able to provoke rage in another driver, but remember it is the other driver who makes the decision to react in a rage.
    Thus it is NOT the LLC having the rage, but the idiot who thinks he's been impeded , going through life expecting everyone to get out of his way. You can energize rage within yourself over any trivial incident, but you are to be responsible for your reaction response. LLC are to be tolerated & honored for not driving like you. ;)
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,509
    LLCs are to be called in as suspected drunks and treated like any other trash who shouldn't be on the road in a supposed first world nation. They need to take some responsibility for once in their godforsaken surplus lives, and keep right - it's the law. It's time for some people to evolve.
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