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Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    edited May 2013
    Should have added more details. There were absolutely none, zero, nada construction workers anywhere to be seen on this Sunday, Memorial Day National Holiday weekend. No rain. Pavement was dry. Sky was overcast, but not somewhat bright. No glare. Hardly any wind. Just about ideal driving conditions.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,682
    If they want to stick to the speed limit (here, the work zone limit) and there's more than one lane, they should stay right. Pretty simple.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,988
    Not mine, my brother's newish Odyssey. We split up today after hanging out all week in Croton on Hudson NY. We headed toward Buffalo and they got just into Vermont across from Albany NY when someone "without brakes" plowed into them. No one hurt, but they had bikes on the back that got trashed in addition to the entire hatch - blew the back window out, etc.

    Do brakes really "fail" that often anymore? My money's on a cell phone.

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  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,163
    was up in Ithaca NY this weekend for my son's graduation. He lives on one of the (many) steep streets heading downtown (man, your legs get a workout on those hills!)

    anyway, parked in front of his apartment (on the uphill side) a bit behind an old saturn wagon. Come out about an hour later, to find the saturn mushed up against my front bumper. turns out, the girl in front of that car (with a 2007 Milan) tried to get out of her parking spot, and managed to back into the Saturn hard enough to wrench it sideways and push it into my car (wife's 7 MO RDX).

    thankfully, looked like it only bent my license plate and did not other damage (there is a little pod that sticks out to hold the front plate). So, pretty much no big deal. I back the car up as far as I can and we go out to dinner.

    When I get back and am loading the car, the girl that owns the Saturn comes back, and I explain what happened to her (there was a card on her windshield from the cop that wrote up the report). But, it has a stick and as she was trying to pull out, she was so bad at it that she managed to back into me again. Same spot, more damage to plate. So, I back up in front of the driveway to get out of her way, determine that there was no additional damage, and she finally manages to roar out into the road.

    it was a long, long day.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,163
    Steve, that is why I like the hitch mounted rack. between that and the heavy duty hitch, it stops a lot of impact to the van.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,988
    Well, I don't know much about hitches, but their carrier is a hitch mounted one. I assume it's an OEM Honda one but not sure. I'm guessing their Yakima bike carrier is trashed too, and Yak racks aren't cheap.

    His advice to me tonight? Drive fast so no one can hit you from behind.

    Not a good weekend for cars, but major congrats to your kiddo!

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  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla MarylandPosts: 700
    However, I find a few of the semi drivers traveling resist using their brakes to slow down for anything, even when they are exceeding the speed limit by 5 mph.

    By saying that you have a "few semi drivers that resist using their brakes to slow down for anything, even when they are exceeding the speed limit by 5 mph"... then the converse is that most semi drivers DO use their brakes to slow down for anything, even when they are exceeding the speed limit by 5 mph.

    That's what got my goat.
  • ronsteveronsteve Posts: 435
    That costs the family another $100 to retest, most of which goes in the tester's pocket. Quite the scam and it really hurts the family when you live in a place where there's no good jobs.

    How can you say there are no good jobs there? It sounds like being a driver's license examiner around those parts is a good job. ;)
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,988
    edited May 2013
    Good testing price, but all the families had to move elsewhere for the jobs so there's only a half dozen kids around to test every year. :shades:

    Had to drive on my nemesis highway yesterday, the 401 in Ontario. Luckily I only had to go a mile to cut over to another road. The news last night was all about the complete blockage of the 401 east of Toronto due to an accident. My general impression of Ontario drivers hasn't improved any over the years; lots of speeders and tailgaters that belies the "polite" Canadians rubic.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,508
    No remarkably bad scenes today, but there seemed to be an abundance of yappers and texters - the majority of the latter seeming to be the fairer set.

    Oh, did see a Range Rover Sport pull out of a Whole Foods parking lot (naturally) and block 2 lanes of traffic trying to get into a desired turn lane. It received several well deserved honks. Never a cop around that place...
  • eliaselias Posts: 1,898
    edited May 2013
    bravo from me and the truckers and other lane-disciplined drivers, andre3!

    also i bet you have noticed how the traffic flow opens up after the Left Lane Controllers have been given the prescribed treatment.
    For the ones that will just stay behind you in the left lane, you can just stay ahead of them at minimum highway speed 45 mph, until all the bigrigs and normal drivers have passed on the right. expect cheers from them, but some may be confused and flip you off!

    the prescribed LLC treatments provoke the exact results you mention in the northeast too. indeed a certain percentage of LLCs are the ones who try to pass on the right at 99 mph, to then go 55 in the left lane again if they can cut back to left lane. they really love the left lane more than life itself!

    btw, have you noticed that Priuses seem to be MLCs more than LLCs ? MLCs are not egregiously bad as LLCs, but they can be annoying iimpediments to normal traffic/drivers too!
  • eliaselias Posts: 1,898
    imadoz, the reason its ok for trucks to cut off cars closer than cars can cut off trucks is Newtonian physics and the law of conservation of momentum, and energy required to dissipate larger/faster vehicle's larger kinetic energy and slow down. you can't get a break from that even if you say 'gimmebreak'.
    good luck to LLCs trying to avoid Newtonian physics when LLCing a larger or faster vehicle.
    years ago friend of mine with 99 suburban diesel was LLCed and brake-checked by a car driver ahead of him. significant crash resulted. no damage to suburban or suburban-driver.
  • eliaselias Posts: 1,898
    A New Jersey approach to LLCers is to drive exactly match their speed adjacent to them, without passing (since passing on the right is illegal). Only go as far as front axles being adjacent - never pass.
    This does nothing initially to cure the traffic blockage caused by the LLCers and may make it worse... But sometimes it results in the LLCer realizing that following the rules and moving right is their best move.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,508
    Around here, I'd be worried about a passive-aggressive explosion, where the LLCer swerves into me. I have no problem passing on the right, and I think its illegality is overstated in some places - I don't live in limeyland.
  • bobw3bobw3 Posts: 2,997
    What was the contruction speed? 45mph? So if it was 45mph, the 8 miles took 10.7 minutes. If that limo moved and you could go 75mph it would have taken you 6.4 minutes to go the 8 miles.

    Lot of whining :cry: for 4.3 minutes ;)
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    What was the contruction speed? 45mph? So if it was 45mph, the 8 miles took 10.7 minutes. If that limo moved and you could go 75mph it would have taken you 6.4 minutes to go the 8 miles.

    Yes, what is 4 minutes in the big scheme of things. So, if a commute on an interstate were 24 miles, then it would only be 12 minutes more. Not really that much when compared to 24 hours in a day. Think of all of the lives saved if all interstates had a 45 mph speed limit. ;)
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,046
    >What was the contruction speed? 45mph? So if it was 45mph, the 8 miles took 10.7 minutes.... 75mph it would have taken you 6.4 minutes to go the 8 miles.

    I'm laughing because the construction zone speed is set for a reason. Going 75 through the zone is not safe or they would have the limit at 75 mph.

    I laugh because during our Road Trip starting Monday, I saw several police cars watching in construction zones here in Ohio. I saw 3 OSP units with stopped vehicles, all from Michigan, who apparently thought the 55 speed limit did not apply to them in construction on a legal holiday in Ohio.

    Those few minutes for a miles-long construction slower speed are trivial in terms of your whole trip. We had more time wasted by the DOT in Ohio which had been doing temp construction at an overpass and had lanes down to 1 with a huge backup on Wednesday. Signs still out and after 10-14 miles of slow then 30-40 mph, there are no workers. Just two trucks with workers/supervisors chatting on one side of interstate--but the signs were still left out to form one lane. They should have taken down signs both directions and then had their chat to kill time before heading back to clock in.

    Now that's inconsiderate. I think every truck in Michigan and Canada was heading south through that backup--more trucks than passenger cars.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,163
    Well, I live in Jersey. and there is nothing in my experience that will get the cruisers to move over. maybe a weapon, but 1/2 of them still would not notice.

    and your idea reminds me of a story. My boss of some years back commuted on 95/295 from PA to NJ, and tended to drive quickly. one stretch is about 5 lanes wide, and one day he comes up to a LLC convention, essentially a rolling roadblock, in the 4 left lanes.

    so, being in a hurry, he moves to the far right and passes (I think he had a Bullit mustang at the time).

    Yup, next thing you know a cop is pulling him over. that LLCs were a police trap, just trying to sucker someone into passing in the right hand lane. And I guess go over the SL, since I think the cops were right at it.

    talk about a waste of taxpayer $ and time/effort that I am sure could have been better spent elsewhere.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,163
    last time I was on 95 between DC/Baltimore, they had cameras set up in the construction zone. assuming they were actually being used, the state was making a lot of money considering how many people never slowed down!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's), 2007 Volvo S40 (when daughter lets me see it), 2000 Acura TL (formerly son's, now mine again), and new Jetta SE (son's first new car on his own dime!)

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,508
    If you want to go 45, get onto a minor highway and let drivers drive. Everyone in the country isn't in bland middle America with nowhere to go and all day to get there.

    Funny thing about the unmanned construction zones though - HUGE problem in Europe, worse than in the US.
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