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Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,325
    Also, I'll remember the time zone defense if I ever get a parking ticket and the "no parking" times didn't mention the time zone.

    Hey, it's a legitimate argument, in San Diego especially, since Military time is common around here.

    Also, a sign with arbitrary hours is even worse than the usual sign. A no right turn on red is bad enough (I never agree with them). But one that says M-F during rush hours is even worse, afterall, are holidays excluded? Certainly there is no rush hour on a holiday that has the same traffic levels as a regular day, yet I'm sure they'd issue the ticket!

    The whole point is it has nothing to do with safety, and that officer should be executed for writing that ticket. There are better things to do with his time!
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,496
    On a little road trip - not many LLCs out there, but seemingly a lot of MLCs. Especially people in small to medium SUVs who are eating or yapping. Seeing a middle aged woman with a Subway sandwich going 50 in her CRV in the middle lane of I-5 reminds me of how dumbed down we've become.

    Also last night, 9pm, raining, dark, still idiots with no lights. Almost always a pickup. Lots of residual commute stop and go shenanigans at the start of my drive, so only managed 39.9mpg per the car.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    The whole point is... what the g** d*** hurry? I remember a time when right turns on red weren't permitted under ANY circumstances. Somehow we managed.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,496
    But at the same time, for some, why so slow? The limits are already dumbed down to the lowest common denominator, and even asking that is too much for so many.

    Right turn on red makes sense in my high traffic area anyway, just to clear out the intersection. If people had to sit for no justifiable reason at an intersection where they wanted to turn, it would do nothing but create traffic backups.

    At one time we somehow managed without endless medical advances, workplace benefits, standards for child labor etc too. Right turn on red is actually evolutionary, like many other advancements. Standards need to be raised, not lowered.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    I love right turn on red. But unfortunately some folks don't understand that it's "right turn on red AFTER STOPPING". So that causes problems in areas with traffic congestion, pedestrians etc. Thus the need for "no right turn on red" signs on some intersections, part time or all the time. If drivers would STOP and LOOK before turning right on red, and YIELD to traffic and pedestrians, there wouldn't be a need for those signs.

    When right turn on red first debuted in Minnesota, there weren't any exception signs. They started popping up because of accidents and injuries caused by drivers who were in such a g** d*** hurry, they couldn't STOP and LOOK and YIELD to other cars and to pedestrians. Blame them, not the public servants you like blame all the world's problems on.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,496
    edited June 2013
    Yes, stopping is part of the bargain. If drivers aren't doing it, they are in the wrong. I see the same issue just as much at normal stop signs though, especially leading onto major streets - the vacuous driver will roll through and pull out in front of oncoming traffic. Then every now and then they get t-boned, and should receive far more punishment than they do.

    Reminds me of my city, that in the past year has installed many blinking left turn lights for major intersections during non-peak hours. They've recently had to add signage reminding the dumbed down local yokel that they still need to yield to oncoming traffic. Pretty sad. Maybe penalties need to be increased for such right of way violators. Some of the new-to-motoring set will also come to a stop at these blinking lights with no oncoming traffic, which bring out the horns. Education fail, perhaps.

    Strangely enough, right on red is almost unknown in Europe, likely because of higher pedestrian traffic. One of the very few road rule related issues where NA is ahead.

    I wasn't blaming these "servants" for people not stopping when they should - looks like yet another strawman. But I do blame them for goofy traffic controls.
  • ronsteveronsteve Posts: 435
    Right turn on red makes sense in my high traffic area anyway, just to clear out the intersection. If people had to sit for no justifiable reason at an intersection where they wanted to turn, it would do nothing but create traffic backups.

    What gets me in Louisville is that there are some intersections with multiple right-turn lanes and thus dedicated signals (I guess in some places this implies that you can't turn right on a red arrow?), and they take the time to post "Right Turn on Red Permitted After Stop." But do the right arrows turn green with the non-conflicting protected left? NO! That's some stupid design right there.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    edited June 2013
    ... are probably also are inconsiderate on the road, since they don't give a d*** about other people and other vehicles.

    Ran into one of those today, literally. I parked way over to the left against a median. Tons of room to my right. I had returned to my car and was checking emails before I left when an old black Durango parked next to me. He parked nearly on the left white line... the idea of centering a car in a spot must be foreign to him. The guy opened both doors on the left and took his time getting his gym bag out (somehow that required BOTH doors to be open). I was ready to back out, but wasn't quite sure if my side mirror would hit his driver's door, or him. So I waited. And waited. Then he did something inexplicable. Rather than just shutting both doors, he opened the driver's door up to full extent, hitting the side of my car. Then closed both doors. He didn't make any indication he knew or cared what he just did. My side window was open so I called after him, "Hey, would you watch the doors, please!" He continued on as though he didn't hear me, or care. He had earbuds in so maybe his music was so loud he didn't hear me. So I shouted louder, "Hey, JERK, watch the doors!!". He continued on, oblivious. Good thing for him this isn't Texas and I wasn't packing.

    He's so oblivious he probably won't notice the new scratch on his Durango's side door... which just so happens to be about the same size as the new scratch on my door. But his scratch shows up more, with white primer under black paint. :)
  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,271
    Before keyless entry a better response would have been a healthy shot of crazy glue in each door lock- followed by a paper clip... ;) A friend retaliated against a similar affront by taking his cordless drill and drilling out the valve stems of all four tires...

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  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    Oh darn, I left my crazy glue, paper clips, and cordless drill at home today!
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,936
    Not to mention that "keys" are going away.

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  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    One benefit to having a car made in 2005! Still has good ol' keys... have many uses.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 39,936
    I've been fobbed just doesn't have the same ring to it. :shades:

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    He's so oblivious he probably won't notice the new scratch on his Durango's side door... which just so happens to be about the same size as the new scratcceh on my door. But his scratch shows up more, with white primer under black paint

    Well, here in the land of N, NE Illinois, many of us have heard about "justice" on the streets of Chicago, Crook County, in winter months. People clean out the snow along the curbs of streets in front of their houses to park their cars. Then they place old chairs other stuff to stake out their claim to their parking spots. When they are away with their cars, and someone then removes the old chairs or other items and parks their vehicles, then all heck can break loose. Common story is that the aggrieved then connect a hose and run water around the offenders tires and freeze him/her in place. No damage, no scratched paint. No. Just justice.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,681
    Yeah, I left my garden hose at home too. And it was about 80 degrees. At least the idiot didn't have to wait a few days to move his Durango.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,321
    How in the world do you reason that the public right of way on a public street can be lawn chair reserved for you and only you? Who do you think you are to feel aggrieved when the public parking space on a public street is filled by someone else? :confuse:
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    Who do you think you are to feel aggrieved when the public parking space on a public street is filled by someone else?

    Obviously you never lived in Chicago. Even the last, 2nd, Mayor Daley had spoke of the "rights" of those who had cleared out the snow at the curb to "claim" their parking spot.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,403
    seems only fair :P

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,496
    Came back from podunk this morning. A few LLCs out today, and several MLCs out too. Raining, many not abiding by the lights/wipers ideal. Worst were the speed demons though - all but one was a SUV or pickup. I love seeing small man syndrome sufferer going 80 in a 60 and then being stuck in an exit ramp backup as the people he cut off whizz by. And signals, what are those?

    I also went from small town west coast USA full of good old boys and tweakers, back to the multicultural wonderland that makes driving in Seattle so special. Had a relatively close call with a yapper in an Audi who crossed into the oncoming lane in a parking lot.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,321
    And where do you file your claim to this property? The mayors office, city hall? When does your claim expire? Or, how long does it last?

    Never lived in Chicago and never will. Why Boeing moved their corporate office there is still a mistery. :P
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