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  • Oh you mean those Sportster conversion kits? Yeah, that could make a decent motorcycle out of a Sportster.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,909
    No, like the little 250 cruisers they use in the motorcycle schools. Harmless bikes, but heavy for their size, and too low.

    Sportster would be the only Harley I would even go near, and even still, no thanks, not my style, and I just don't care for the noise.
  • You can make Harleys quiet and good handling with modest investment---they don't have to be the obnoxious, peace-shattering, foul-handling rattletraps that people sometimes in their wisdom turn them into.

    My friend turned a Sportster into a cafe racer, with modified suspension, exhaust and braking, and it was a lovely bike to ride. It was a considerable modification, however.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,909
    If I want expensive and kind of rumbly, I'll just get a Ducati, they look cooler.

    I still have a bike itch, but dumping a couple grand into the fintail over the past few months along with having a car payment again has me not wanting any more mouths to feed.

    And I would probably be called inconsiderate as I noticed I rarely use turn signals when on a bike, but sometimes will use hand signals.
  • And speaking of "lane splitters", I think some of those guys are crazy in the risks they take.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,909
    edited August 2013
    I think CA might be the only state where lane splitting is legal. No way in hell I would do it around Seattle - combine local passive-aggressiveness with poor lane-keeping ability, and you'll be hit within an hour.

    Had a decent drive both ways today, but when I was on foot, things devolved. Endless scores of phone-holders, at least 4 or 5 crosswalk crowders, just dumbed down nonsense.

    And speaking of the damage to my car from earlier, I contacted the state DOT, and they gave me instructions on how to file a claim. Now that I notice a driving light has a crack that I am certain came from their negligent road works, I am going to pursue it. Hard to believe it is first world, but I guess I have the "freedom" to have a kid and name her Honey Boo Boo, so it all evens out :sick:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,624
    If so, my new car has 7 left, as I used up 2 of them today.

    This morning, I was driving in the rightmost driving lane of a 3-lane freeway, with a long exit lane on the right. It's a long exit lane because the entrance to the interchange ahead frequently backs up at rush hour, resulting in a long line of vehicles. Most people are courteous and get into that line safely and wait their turn, so as not to impede traffic on the thru lanes. Ahead of me, an old Caravan pulls out of the line. OK, I thought, that often happens where someone decides to avoid the bottleneck by going to the next exit. Or, they decided, as did this fellow, to jump the line. He passes about 10 cars and then right before the exit, slams on his brakes and tries to duck back into the line. I have to slam on my brakes because I can't change lanes, there's a BMW cruising down that lane at probably 10-over. Fortunately, the new brakes on the new car are good and I avoid the van, and the driver behind me is alert and is able to duck in behind the BMW. One life down. One of those times I wished I drove a 1970s vintage Crown Vic instead of a new, small car.

    Then tonight, driving home on another 3-lane freeway, again in the right lane, there's a tight cloverleaf interchange ahead. A poorly designed cloverleaf in that it empties directly into the right driving lane--no entrance lane at all. An older Camry comes barreling around the cloverleaf and decides to play chicken with the cars in the right lane. This time also, can't move left, a steady stream of cars there. If I maintain speed I estimate there's a good chance the idiot will sideswipe me, or worse. If I floor it, I might be able to avoid him... or might not, plus there's another car directly ahead of me I'd need to avoid. I decide to hit the brakes, the Camry darts in ahead of me, just missing me, and the driver behind me brakes in time. Two lives down, 7 to go.
  • You really should move away from there.

    You'll be happier.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,909
    edited August 2013
    But where is really any better overall? At least in this country. Dumbed down is the new normal. Useless negligent enforcement just adds icing on the cake. Just need to save money and take a driving trip every few years to the motorized first world, I guess.

    I suppose if I won a lottery, I'd be happier too :)
  • Friday afternoon, driving home on a four lane divided highway that had the right lane closed for construction. Most of the traffic was stop & go. Two cars ahead of me, an older Chevy pickup was moving a constant 7-8 mph. I know because I didn't have to touch my brakes for a good three miles. The 3 Series in between us was tailgating, weaving, honking whenever the distance in front of the pickup started to increase. It didn't matter that the cars ahead of him were stopped and he was slowly closing the gap.

    Nearing the end of the construction zone there was a stoplight, and the pickup hit the brakes a little hard. You got it, brake check. The BMW driver failed the test. The only damage is where the hitch hit his bumper, and being a BMW probably costs a thousand bucks.

    I explained to the responding officer that the pickup was driving sensibly and the BMW was driving erratically. I may have failed to mention the brake check.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,268

    If that had happened 15 years ago, it would have been me in the "older" Chevy. I always drive that way in stop/go traffic jams. I think I idled through Chicago (on I-90) for three hours without touching the brakes (or clutch) once, while the vehicles around me were hitting their brakes thousands of times alternating between zero and about 25mph.

    I never had a very big gap in front of me because if it grew to more than about ten car lengths, someone would jump in there to fill it thinking they might actually get somewhere....

    Granted, I didn't "have to stop" suddenly, but I did have a few folks behind me honk a time or two. Apparently, they didn't appreciate the lack of speed variation.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,951
    Motorists have developed more cavalier attitudes toward such dangerous behaviors as drunk, aggressive and drowsy driving, just as road deaths have increased for the first time in seven years, a AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety analysis shows.

    Americans Have Bad Attitude About Bad Behavior on Roads, Study Finds
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,909
    But how does that casualty rate compare to population growth, change in miles driven, change in vehicles on the road now that the economy is marginally better, etc? Sometimes stats like that are used so smug do-gooder control freaks can impose more useless regulations while ignoring real issues.

    It is pretty hilarious that driving while drinking or (and?) texting is seen as less of an issue than in the past. But with the low odds of facing real punishment...

    I stopped and went at a red light this morning - no reason not to, as the streets were empty and the light shouldn't be activated to begin with.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,909
    I'll bet BMW guy didn't use a signal either. It's part of an option package nobody orders.
  • Stever@EdmundsStever@Edmunds YooperlandPosts: 38,951
    Running the light? Next thing you know, you'll be cruising around with your foot hanging out the window, lol.

    I dunno about that study either. The AAA is all about more asphalt, so why care, unless they want to make sure all that asphalt if filled up with cars.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,909
    Stopping and going isn't really the same as running. I wonder how much fuel is wasted by incompetent traffic control management, and how many of these esteemed ranking "engineers" are ever held accountable. Must be a nice gig, do nothing, in for 30, out with 85+.

    AAA isn't what I would say free from desires of influence, especially by scaredy cat types who think 60 is just fast enough, thank you, especially as they age. The data should be analyzed, but I bet it isn't avaliable.

    This should happen to more phone yappers
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,268
    Stopping and going isn't really the same as running.

    No, it isn't the same at all! 'Running' a red light is failure to stop. Be careful about that stop/go business, though, Fin; that sort of action indicates prudent decision-making... something that is frowned upon in today's society! :p
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,909
    I know, I should wait and let an authority think for me. How dare I use my brain against defective infrastructure on an empty road at 0530...

    Didn't see anything too bad on the drive home, but on foot I noticed traffic backed up in a turn lane, with a turn light that wouldn't change. This is because a woman I won't describe in an Odyssey at the head of the line was sitting too far back, so the sensor wouldn't detect her. The newbies around here do this all the time, and sometimes you have to honk or yell at them to move up and trip the light. Once I saw a guy actually get out of his car to explain it to the car in front of him. Maybe it works different on the other side of the world.
  • I got to talk to the cops a second time today on my way back from the store this evening. I was heading eastbound on a lightly traveled two lane road with a speed limit of 40. Ahead of me I see a Camcord making a left hand turn from a side street onto eastbound also. Unfortunately, the driver wasn't thinking and pulled out in front of a fast moving westbound Challenger (I'd guess he was doing between 55 and 60.) The Challenger had his headlights on, so visibility wasn't an issue. Nobody was hurt.

    The kid driving the Camcord got his license 5 months ago. And he rushing because he was late for work. I think he rolled his stop sign, but I can't be sure of it.

    I have a 5 hour drive tomorrow. We're taking my BIL's car, and he's got a dashcam. If the mayhem continues, I may be posting a video tomorrow. :P
  • fintailfintail Posts: 32,909
    Had a 2013 3er behind me in traffic today, driver distracted, holding a phone to her ear and rummaging through a bag on the passenger seat, which made her dawdle a little at lights. Not using hands-free in a car with bluetooth should be at least 10x the fine.

    And I saw something which I think won't end well. There's a guy in my building who has a smaller sportbike, I think a Honda F4 series, not a super fast model, but it makes noise and is flashy. Today I saw him setting off with a passenger. He is kind of small, and passenger (girl I assume) was even smaller, and they were both sitting kind of awkwardly and didn't look very comfortable. I have a bad feeling about that.
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