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Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    You should be thankful he didn't then just stand on his brakes - jerks do things like that. You'd be so frazzled, your aim would be off anyway :)

    Some 300s could be equipped with the paltry 2.7 possibly, not a great engine.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    Living in an area known to have a high BMW population, I can say their drivers don't like to use turn signals. And someone in a late model M car is almost guaranteed to be an insufferable [non-permissible content removed].
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    edited August 2013
    I've driven maybe 600 miles since yesterday morning. Some LLCs, some going insanely slow on 60-70mph roads, no real speed demons, nothing exciting. I did almost get rear ended by an old man in an Impala on Snoqualmie Pass, when traffic ground to a halt for no reason at all. I could see his wife cover her face with her hands as he just missed me.

    And I got a rock chip on my bumper thanks to the supposed engineers at WSDOT who decided to make a ~5 mile stretch of a state highway loose gravel - no warning signs or online posts, I would have taken another route if I would have known. Absolutely ridiculous. Oncoming traffic in trucks, typical inbreds, was going ~40 and sending rocks flying across, I was driving on the shoulder to avoid it, no LEOs patrolling any of it. I am seriously thinking of sending the repair bill to the bastards. Disgusting negligence.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,327
    With irrational people like that, I prefer to keep them in front of me vs. behind me.

    That's where you and I differ for sure buddy! I prefer to keep them idiots behind me. That's why I prefer cars with over 200 HP.
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    Yeah, if I had my car with warp drive that morning, I would have punched it.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,453
    Yeah, I agree. With you being in the continuing lane, it was best that you held constant and let the other driver adjust. The fact that the other vehicle was not ahead of you at the merge point means ROW remains in your court, so odd action by the other driver to not either pull ahead or fall behind.

    That happened a long time ago to my wife when we were headed toward the Kenai Peninsula. We were in the left lane, the right lane ends, and she was driving a little faster than a car on the right. She had passed it by about a half car by the time the merge started. At that point, this other car speeds up even with us, then starts honking and swerving. I told her to ignore him and let him deal, but she freaked out, pulled to the far left shoulder and slowed down.

    "Happy" for us, he then settles in to exactly 55 on the windy, 2-lane road ahead. Since she's not much of a passer, we were stuck behind that yahoo for about 30 miles. I'm not sure if I was more annoyed with that driver or my wife....
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,453
    Bwaahahahahahaha!
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    edited August 2013
    ~120 miles on state and interstate highways earlier today - only one real LLC, a big Ford pickup that eventually moved over. Also saw a MLC Prius happily doping along as cars whizzed by on both sides.

    Also saw a minivan weaving through traffic, passenger (female, of course) reclined with foot hanging out the window - wouldn't be pretty in an accident.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,436
    Heh, that could be me, but we had the AC on most of the day in the van so the windows were up.

    The odd thing out in the southwest are some of the speed limits. We camped ~10 miles from Canyon TX at Palo Duro Canyon last night. The access road was a typical two lane with one or two stop signs and lots of driveway entrances. The speed limit was 70 for part of the road and 75 the rest of the way. 60 seemed plenty adequate.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    I'd hope you or your other half would be smart enough not to be a foot dangler.

    TX is known for high speed limits. Probably low traffic a lot of the time, and the locals are used to it. Better than dumbo 55 that is common in so much of Oregon.

    Speaking of Oregon, saw an OR plated Sienna, plate read "YEN YEN" (so guess the driver), variable speed, weaving around going nowhere, being a typical idiot. Also honked at an Escalade that stopped in the middle of a turn for no reason - probably lost. I know when I'm lost, I just freeze and stop in the middle of a major arterial.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,436
    Define dangler, lol.

    Lots of considerate drivers here in Las Cruces. I've seen the cops stop two people in just a day, but one may have been a welfare check on an adult tricycle (didn't see the rider). Also noticed that some intersections were signed for red light/speed cameras. Not sure what the reason is but most of the streets are 35 mph and most people are going about that.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    60mph interstate, window down, foot hanging out. I wonder what would happen in an evasive maneuver, or a crash. Can't say I would mourn.

    Cameras = we need money.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,870
    It really is amazing. We drove down to DC a couple of weeks ago and I saw a DRIVER with a foot hanging out the window of a beater van on the Beltway. I made certain I gave them a wide berth and left them behind me. I didn't want to have to deal with ay surprises!

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,796
    and a pickup truck passes me on the left on a generously wide road and *almost* rips my arm off with their mirror.

    Well, we are both coasting downhill to a 4-way stop.

    He stops and has to wait his turn. I creep on his right, and carefully make a right turn.

    He eventually turns right and starts SCREAMING at me about....I really don't know.....

    Old guy---face red, temples bulging--weaving as he rants...

    I still have no idea what his problem was, but it's disturbing that as we speak he's out there somewhere.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    I hope that's worthy of a ticket. Of course, might be hard to enforce when the powers that be only look for speeders.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,436
    Wasn't me. I was cruising in the Southwest, driving with my knee.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    This morning, saw a woman in a Mini, phone to her ear, go through a yellow very late - cross traffic light was green while she was still in the intersection. There was an oncoming cop who didn't even blink. Nice.

    Regarding Shifty's raging truck driver, maybe there needs to be background checks for the purchases of some vehicles, along with license endorsements. Some of them do seem to attract an element.

    Oh yeah, warm day here, have already seen numerous greybeards out on Harleys, no gear other than little brain bucket helmets - even the sportbike set here wears more. Skin grafts aren't cheap or fun.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,796
    edited August 2013
    Injury and fatality rates among aging Harley drivers is very high. They really don't have good reflexes anymore, and the larger cruiser HD bikes are ponderous--if you don't have the upper body strength anymore, you're probably gonna drop it on yourself.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    When I took the MSF course, I tried a little cruiser - not easy to maneuver, cumbersome for a large or tall rider. Then I tried a dual sport, and was able to make endless U-turns on a dime.

    I suspect older rider casualties will increase faster than younger over the next decade or two.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,796
    Oh you mean those Sportster conversion kits? Yeah, that could make a decent motorcycle out of a Sportster.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    No, like the little 250 cruisers they use in the motorcycle schools. Harmless bikes, but heavy for their size, and too low.

    Sportster would be the only Harley I would even go near, and even still, no thanks, not my style, and I just don't care for the noise.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,796
    You can make Harleys quiet and good handling with modest investment---they don't have to be the obnoxious, peace-shattering, foul-handling rattletraps that people sometimes in their wisdom turn them into.

    My friend turned a Sportster into a cafe racer, with modified suspension, exhaust and braking, and it was a lovely bike to ride. It was a considerable modification, however.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    If I want expensive and kind of rumbly, I'll just get a Ducati, they look cooler.

    I still have a bike itch, but dumping a couple grand into the fintail over the past few months along with having a car payment again has me not wanting any more mouths to feed.

    And I would probably be called inconsiderate as I noticed I rarely use turn signals when on a bike, but sometimes will use hand signals.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,796
    And speaking of "lane splitters", I think some of those guys are crazy in the risks they take.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    edited August 2013
    I think CA might be the only state where lane splitting is legal. No way in hell I would do it around Seattle - combine local passive-aggressiveness with poor lane-keeping ability, and you'll be hit within an hour.

    Had a decent drive both ways today, but when I was on foot, things devolved. Endless scores of phone-holders, at least 4 or 5 crosswalk crowders, just dumbed down nonsense.

    And speaking of the damage to my car from earlier, I contacted the state DOT, and they gave me instructions on how to file a claim. Now that I notice a driving light has a crack that I am certain came from their negligent road works, I am going to pursue it. Hard to believe it is first world, but I guess I have the "freedom" to have a kid and name her Honey Boo Boo, so it all evens out :sick:
  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,710
    If so, my new car has 7 left, as I used up 2 of them today.

    This morning, I was driving in the rightmost driving lane of a 3-lane freeway, with a long exit lane on the right. It's a long exit lane because the entrance to the interchange ahead frequently backs up at rush hour, resulting in a long line of vehicles. Most people are courteous and get into that line safely and wait their turn, so as not to impede traffic on the thru lanes. Ahead of me, an old Caravan pulls out of the line. OK, I thought, that often happens where someone decides to avoid the bottleneck by going to the next exit. Or, they decided, as did this fellow, to jump the line. He passes about 10 cars and then right before the exit, slams on his brakes and tries to duck back into the line. I have to slam on my brakes because I can't change lanes, there's a BMW cruising down that lane at probably 10-over. Fortunately, the new brakes on the new car are good and I avoid the van, and the driver behind me is alert and is able to duck in behind the BMW. One life down. One of those times I wished I drove a 1970s vintage Crown Vic instead of a new, small car.

    Then tonight, driving home on another 3-lane freeway, again in the right lane, there's a tight cloverleaf interchange ahead. A poorly designed cloverleaf in that it empties directly into the right driving lane--no entrance lane at all. An older Camry comes barreling around the cloverleaf and decides to play chicken with the cars in the right lane. This time also, can't move left, a steady stream of cars there. If I maintain speed I estimate there's a good chance the idiot will sideswipe me, or worse. If I floor it, I might be able to avoid him... or might not, plus there's another car directly ahead of me I'd need to avoid. I decide to hit the brakes, the Camry darts in ahead of me, just missing me, and the driver behind me brakes in time. Two lives down, 7 to go.
  • You really should move away from there.

    You'll be happier.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,687
    edited August 2013
    But where is really any better overall? At least in this country. Dumbed down is the new normal. Useless negligent enforcement just adds icing on the cake. Just need to save money and take a driving trip every few years to the motorized first world, I guess.

    I suppose if I won a lottery, I'd be happier too :)
  • Friday afternoon, driving home on a four lane divided highway that had the right lane closed for construction. Most of the traffic was stop & go. Two cars ahead of me, an older Chevy pickup was moving a constant 7-8 mph. I know because I didn't have to touch my brakes for a good three miles. The 3 Series in between us was tailgating, weaving, honking whenever the distance in front of the pickup started to increase. It didn't matter that the cars ahead of him were stopped and he was slowly closing the gap.

    Nearing the end of the construction zone there was a stoplight, and the pickup hit the brakes a little hard. You got it, brake check. The BMW driver failed the test. The only damage is where the hitch hit his bumper, and being a BMW probably costs a thousand bucks.

    I explained to the responding officer that the pickup was driving sensibly and the BMW was driving erratically. I may have failed to mention the brake check.
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