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Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,448
    LOL

    If that had happened 15 years ago, it would have been me in the "older" Chevy. I always drive that way in stop/go traffic jams. I think I idled through Chicago (on I-90) for three hours without touching the brakes (or clutch) once, while the vehicles around me were hitting their brakes thousands of times alternating between zero and about 25mph.

    I never had a very big gap in front of me because if it grew to more than about ten car lengths, someone would jump in there to fill it thinking they might actually get somewhere....

    Granted, I didn't "have to stop" suddenly, but I did have a few folks behind me honk a time or two. Apparently, they didn't appreciate the lack of speed variation.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,415
    Motorists have developed more cavalier attitudes toward such dangerous behaviors as drunk, aggressive and drowsy driving, just as road deaths have increased for the first time in seven years, a AAA Foundation for Traffic Safety analysis shows.

    Americans Have Bad Attitude About Bad Behavior on Roads, Study Finds

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    But how does that casualty rate compare to population growth, change in miles driven, change in vehicles on the road now that the economy is marginally better, etc? Sometimes stats like that are used so smug do-gooder control freaks can impose more useless regulations while ignoring real issues.

    It is pretty hilarious that driving while drinking or (and?) texting is seen as less of an issue than in the past. But with the low odds of facing real punishment...

    I stopped and went at a red light this morning - no reason not to, as the streets were empty and the light shouldn't be activated to begin with.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    I'll bet BMW guy didn't use a signal either. It's part of an option package nobody orders.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,415
    Running the light? Next thing you know, you'll be cruising around with your foot hanging out the window, lol.

    I dunno about that study either. The AAA is all about more asphalt, so why care, unless they want to make sure all that asphalt if filled up with cars.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    Stopping and going isn't really the same as running. I wonder how much fuel is wasted by incompetent traffic control management, and how many of these esteemed ranking "engineers" are ever held accountable. Must be a nice gig, do nothing, in for 30, out with 85+.

    AAA isn't what I would say free from desires of influence, especially by scaredy cat types who think 60 is just fast enough, thank you, especially as they age. The data should be analyzed, but I bet it isn't avaliable.

    This should happen to more phone yappers
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,448
    Stopping and going isn't really the same as running.

    No, it isn't the same at all! 'Running' a red light is failure to stop. Be careful about that stop/go business, though, Fin; that sort of action indicates prudent decision-making... something that is frowned upon in today's society! :p
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    I know, I should wait and let an authority think for me. How dare I use my brain against defective infrastructure on an empty road at 0530...

    Didn't see anything too bad on the drive home, but on foot I noticed traffic backed up in a turn lane, with a turn light that wouldn't change. This is because a woman I won't describe in an Odyssey at the head of the line was sitting too far back, so the sensor wouldn't detect her. The newbies around here do this all the time, and sometimes you have to honk or yell at them to move up and trip the light. Once I saw a guy actually get out of his car to explain it to the car in front of him. Maybe it works different on the other side of the world.
  • I got to talk to the cops a second time today on my way back from the store this evening. I was heading eastbound on a lightly traveled two lane road with a speed limit of 40. Ahead of me I see a Camcord making a left hand turn from a side street onto eastbound also. Unfortunately, the driver wasn't thinking and pulled out in front of a fast moving westbound Challenger (I'd guess he was doing between 55 and 60.) The Challenger had his headlights on, so visibility wasn't an issue. Nobody was hurt.

    The kid driving the Camcord got his license 5 months ago. And he rushing because he was late for work. I think he rolled his stop sign, but I can't be sure of it.

    I have a 5 hour drive tomorrow. We're taking my BIL's car, and he's got a dashcam. If the mayhem continues, I may be posting a video tomorrow. :P
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    Had a 2013 3er behind me in traffic today, driver distracted, holding a phone to her ear and rummaging through a bag on the passenger seat, which made her dawdle a little at lights. Not using hands-free in a car with bluetooth should be at least 10x the fine.

    And I saw something which I think won't end well. There's a guy in my building who has a smaller sportbike, I think a Honda F4 series, not a super fast model, but it makes noise and is flashy. Today I saw him setting off with a passenger. He is kind of small, and passenger (girl I assume) was even smaller, and they were both sitting kind of awkwardly and didn't look very comfortable. I have a bad feeling about that.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,327
    I may have failed to mention the brake check.

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    Wow, felony false report to Police.

    Big risk to take if anyone had a video camera of the situation. Of course, you could commit perjury and state you "can't remember" the brake lights.
  • No, I didn't lie.
    I just failed to add that information. And the cop didn't ask. :confuse:

    The cop seemed really interested about how close the BMW was following, how many times he crossed over the yellow line at the edge of the road, and how many times he honked. I wonder if there was a "road rage" added to the "failure to stop"?
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    I'd hope hearsay wouldn't be able to lead to such charges. Moot though, as eventually dashcams will record everything. I am waiting for them to be standard equipment, or at least an option from the factory.

    This morning, a woman with a phone to her ear in a Prius breezed through a green signaled crosswalk, with me and 2 other people in it. I reached out and slapped her car, would have hit harder but she was moving. No enforcement in the area, but I did see a hardworking revenue assurance officer speedtrapping at the top of a hill. End of month, quota time...oh yeah, no such thing as quotas. It's all about safety, Think of the children!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,780
    edited August 2013
    Waiting in the left lane for a very VERY long left turn signal arrow. It's hot out. Construction gang banging away laying asphalt outside my window. Big 4X4 PlanetPounder SUV in front of me.

    Arrow goes green, SUV creeps out....we hear sirens in the distance. SUV driver stops in middle of intersection, me stuck behind them.

    I look around for emergency vehicles....nada...good view both ways...I tap the horn as the sirens obviously fade behind us (the old doppler effect) .

    SUV sits there.

    Light turns red again, they make their left turn, I'm stuck.

    Nice.

    :mad:

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  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    Driver dopes with cellphones. A common occurrence seen a number of times on any commute, trip. This morning saw a woman in a minivan with cell phone to the ear coming to a stop at a 4-way stop sign. She was "multi-tasking" successfully at that point in time.

    Big change coming in Illinois. The governor signed a law taking effect next Jan banning hand-held cell phones by drivers. Hands-free cell phones will be allowed. The Governor and legislators still don't get it. Phone device is not the problem. It is the concentration and distraction caused by the phone conversation.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,327
    I agree with you, but there are some that believe that you are better able to react with both hands on the wheel when something does happen, than you are with one hand. It could be true in a small percentage of cases, but the big picture is the distraction and lack of concentration on driving. The small picture matters, but the big picture matters more.

    Two hands don't help you brake or slow down unless you have a hand brake.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    Would agree that two hands on the wheel should be required at all times, except for those die-hards still using a manual transmission. Those using a cellphone in left hand (in auto trans cars) could kind of control their vehicle in an emergency if right handed and right hand at 12- o-clock.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    My state has had primary phone laws for a couple years. Enforcement is lax at best. I wonder if it will be the same in IL.

    I see more people distracted by animated conversations with passengers than distracted by yelling at their integrated bluetooth setup - not to mention eaters, drinkers, etc.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,415
    My guess is that most of the enforcement is at the scene of the accident.

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  • eliaselias Posts: 1,911
    In california, everyone does the smart thing, merge at the last second, at the merge point. In New england, everyone merges way ahead of the merge point - as long as it within sight. ditto with the left turn.

    I think the reason people prefer to stack in one lane is pretty obvious - there's always some misguided aggressive enforcer twit trying to block people from merging at the end. in normal traffic these people cruise in left or middle lane way below the prevailing speed, we call them LLCs or MLCs.

    It may well be that california drivers are better at doing the 'zipper' merge , alternating one car per lane, nice and smooth. on east coast it may be more random - some cars let 2 or 3 cars from other lane go, others let 1 go, others let 0 from other lane merge, so merging is not steady&smooth.
  • I think it's interesting to see that people that driver a porsche are voted the #2 most rude people. This infographic is kind of funny.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    edited August 2013
    Audi drivers highly polite? Britain must be in a different dimension.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,415
    "Mountain air must be good for driving, as Allstate America's Best Drivers Report named Fort Collins, Colorado as "America's Safest Driving City," the third time in report history that this city has held the top spot.

    Washington, D.C. ranks at the bottom of Allstate's list for the second year in a row.

    Boise, Idaho, holds the number two spot, while Sioux Falls, South Dakota.; Brownsville, Texas and Madison, Wisconsin round out the top five."

    Fort Collins, Colorado Named America's Safest Driving City

    Hm, I've lived in two of the current top five cities and Ft. Collins has been on our maybe list for a while as a place to retire.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,780
    Not a bad place Ft. Collins. College town, lots of brew pubs, progressive/liberal city council, good outdoorsy stuff and too far away from rapacious Denver to be eaten by it (some 60 miles I think).

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  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,415
    We're going to try to cruise through there on our way home next week. Going to be hard to beat the NM drivers though - don't remember them being this laid back, although we haven't spent much time in SF or ABQ.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,780
    BAH---It's easy to be a "good driver" when you have all that room. :)

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  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,327
    If a car lets more than one car by on a zipper merge, the people behind them have a duty to honk at them until their ears bleed. OK, maybe not the ears bleed part, but they have a duty to let them know they have erred.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,326
    "let them know they have erred. " Really. According to whom?

    The driver allowing more than one car to merge in front of him determines how many may do so as he is in the position of command. You then will patiently wait for his decision to allow you to merge.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    I'll just go around, or call him in as a suspected drunk. Hope you weren't planning on getting home soon! ;)
  • I'll just go around, or call him in as a suspected drunk.

    Just curious, how many calls have you made on "suspected drunks"?
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