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Inconsiderate Drivers (share your stories, etc.)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    I've never understood why DRLs don't also illuminate the rear lights, as they do present some room for error. Given the amount of clueless drivers in my area, I am surprised full auto lights aren't mandatory yet.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    No lights cars this evening - CRV with really dim DRLs, no rear lights, and of course, it was black. G37 coupe that had douchey little aftermarket bright blue city lights, like 5 watt things - went well with the loud exhaust and wide wheels. And the no lights award goes to a rented Camry - I was on foot and pointed at the car when I walked by, driver looked at me like I was crazy.
  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,416
    I did a couple of hours driving today, maybe 25% of it in blowing snow, and there were a dozen or more people cruising down the highway, barely visible without any lights on.

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  • eliaselias Posts: 1,911
    Local T intersection on 30 mph road has a certain stop sign that people run routinely - almost got killed there yesterday. Easily the 20th time its happened to me in a decade or so, and the worst yet. It happens from either direction to the straight-thru traffic:
    Every month or so, a stopsign traffic driver randomly ignores the stop, causing collision or near-collision.

    QUESTION:
    Is it inconsiderate to blow full or beeping/staccato horn EVERY time transiting that intersection?
    What if no other cars are visible?
    Yesterday shows they may not be visible before they run the stopsign - the person "tailgated" the driver in front of her who did stop - running the sign from a "blind spot" - a truck-length back where she was not visible until "way too late" to avoid disaster or near-disater.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    edited November 2013
    I drove a little on the highway yesterday (under 100 mile round trip) - no real LLCS, but man, the slowpokes. I was shocked at the amount of "drivers" who couldn't have been doing more than 50 (in a 60), especially on 167. Poor mergers too - I remember getting behind a Prius that seemed to stay in electric mode long after the ramp was over - couldn't have got much past 40. Also saw an H2 that was going so slow, even the slowpokes were passing it.

    Drive home was nicer in most areas though - the carpool lane opens to all cars after 7pm, but nobody seems to know this. It was nice moving past the drones as they dawdled along at 59 in the left lane, probably with a two handed deathgrip on the wheel, brainwashed by the endless "speed kills" propaganda the revenue enforcement cabal has spread.

    Out this morning, saw a Jeep make an abrupt unsignaled turn into a parking lot, then zoom out, then crawl down a street and make another unsignaled turn into a lot. Both lots empty, probably not a black Friday zombie. And a big lifted F250 4x4 4 door that was crawling down the road after turning at 5mph. I still want license endorsements for SUVs and big trucks. In this state, if you are on a motorcycle and get stopped without an endorsement, the bike gets impounded. Should happen to the drivers of leviathans too - their rigs are much more of a danger to other road users than bikes.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    Are there any houses nearby to be annoyed? If not, I say go for it. The clueless idiot who runs the signs might not even hear the horn over the stereo and the conversation being had with their BFF, though.
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,722
    Is it inconsiderate to blow full or beeping/staccato horn EVERY time transiting that intersection?

    I am going to go with yes, even more so if there are homes and/or businesses nearby. I will tell you this, every now and again I get someone blowing their horn at me in such a situation. Even though it is obvious that I am stopping, and on more than one occasion had stopped completely, some people will blow their horns. All I can think of is "Man what a #$%@ idiot".

    If it is a common occurrence I would be more inclined to slow down as I approached the intersection and be prepared to break and/or perform some evasive maneuver to avoid the idiot who blows off the stop sign. Blowing your horn might not work, if they are oblivious to you they might be to the sound of the horn.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    On foot this morning, saw a new Lexus GX driven by someone who is probably inexperienced (to be nice) make a right turn from a left turn lane. Towards an occupied crosswalk when the crosswalk had green. Nice. Also a rapidly driven non-signaling Escalade (must be a BMW owner?) and a woman with a phone to hear ear in a Suburban who didn't appear to want to stop for a red light.
  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,326
    Blow the horn at any and all fog filled intersections. Anchored ships automatically sound their fog horns when needed so we drivers should do no less especially while moving.
    Also blow the horn when driving over speed bumps planted by the local neighbors - especially late at night. After all, "it's for the kids".
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    >>>>>>Blow the horn at any and all fog filled intersections.>>>>>

    Heavy fog in my area this afternoon. Was on a road that has a stop sign at a busy 2 lane and I wanted to cross it. What I always do in this situation is roll down both the driver and passenger windows and look and listen before I cross with the radio turned off. Of course, I am not on the phone as are many idiot drivers that I observed this afternoon.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    Tonight I saw a Tesla driving douchecanoe with a phone to his ear, and accelerating pretty hard while doing so. Don't tell me that thing doesn't have bluetooth. Should be a five figure fine, right there. Also saw an early 00s Civic in the dark with only parking lights on (I pointed at it, driver didn't notice).
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    edited December 2013
    This is pretty inconsiderate - respect the badge!

    2 no lights cars tonight, Avalon and Impreza.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,450
    I'm glad they are pursuing Mr. Hanke's actions, but I don't feel like Ofc. Brennan did anything wrong there. Professional courtesy isn't the same thing as letting someone get away with something. He did what he felt was the right thing to do under those circumstances and he forwarded the situation on to his supervisor(s) for them to handle.

    Without additional knowledge of his past and current behavior, kudos to him as a professional LEO.
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    edited December 2013
    If you weren't one of the badge club, would Brennan had called your wife and released you to her, had you been caught driving drunk? We both know the answer. Not very professional, unless helping a fellow frat brother escape accountability is a profession. He and those he notified (after how long?) have a lot to answer for, not just handing over censored documents, likely in a quest to avoid even more scrutiny. And then think of the salaries being collected and pensions to be scarfed down. And it will likely end with another paid vacation. Ridiculous. I don't know if any kind of driving is less considerate than the intoxicated type, although covering up for others comes close.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,450
    The difference between your take on it and mine (which would mirror yours if not for the actions of the officer on duty (OOD)), is that you're saying the OOD was covering up for another officer. I'm saying that's not what he did. He handled the situation tactfully while looking out for the safety of the public, and remitted the infraction to his superiors for further disciplinary action (which could include or even exceed the original DUI).

    He certainly could have arrested the other officer on the spot, just like he could have done so had it been any other Tom, Dick, or Harry. That doesn't mean he HAS to do so. Is it very likely that the same result would have occurred had it been you or I? No. But, that doesn't mean he handled it poorly, especially given the "badge club" mentality you mentioned.

    The OOD had to consider more than addressing the immediate threat in that situation, and I believe he did so tactfully and in a way that was not designed to allow "a fellow frat brother to escape accountability."
  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    edited December 2013
    I guess I just can't buy it. Had it been you or me, we'd have our car impounded, get a free behind-the-scenes visit to a police station, have a cool aftermarket breathalyzer device fitted to our car, and incur significant financial loss even if we got off with a reckless driving charge (which these days is becoming more rare in WA, as it should). Does anyone seriously believe Joe Blow would have been let go like that? Does "tactfully" = "hushed"? Maybe it does. It's not like he had a more important matter to attend to - he even stuck as the wife moved cars. Would this happen to someone not in the club? The mention that data was apparently redacted on the paperwork says a lot, too. The "superiors" (superior to what?) need to be made to explain themselves. If the officer was treated different because he was an officer - and I see nothing to dispute this, the one on "duty" made a mistake, along with his overpaid bosses.

    I don't know what is less considerate , driving drunk or getting a free pass because you're a fraternity brother. There needs to be a higher standard, especially with the insane accountability protections, and generous compensation that comes with these positions in this area. I can't imagine it being defended by anyone who doesn't have some kind of personal LEO connection, and might be wearing rose colored glasses.
  • imidazol97imidazol97 Crossroads of America: I70 & I75Posts: 18,149
    Here we have the FOP badges stuck on or held on with screws on the rear license plate to mark the cars of the brothers and their family. For a time my wife was friends with a wife of a policeman. She used her get out of jail card twice during the time. Just show it to the officer who stopped you so they know your husband is one of them. "Go and sin no more," is the response.

    These are the folks who here in Ohio we pay 29% of their salary toward their retirement pension and they can retire after 20 years (or is it 25% and 25 years and the 29%/20 is for firemen?).
  • snakeweaselsnakeweasel a Certified Edmunds Poster.Posts: 11,722
    Blow the horn at any and all fog filled intersections. Anchored ships automatically sound their fog horns when needed so we drivers should do no less especially while moving.

    Actually any ship not docked would have had to use a fog horn. The reason being is that a ship can be anywhere in the water unlike a car that is relegated to one side of the road or the other.

    The sign said "No shoes, no shirt, no service", it didn't say anything about no pants.

  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,326
    Anchored ships are not docked, thus they use fog horns. When in the fog, one side of the road ot the other, sounding your "fog" horn is not harmful.
  • ronsteveronsteve Posts: 435
    There are 2 kinds of drivers that really annoy me in snowy conditions... those who are afraid to go over 25 mph on the interstate, and those who think that the speed limit is the absolute minimum speed one should travel, regardless of conditions.

    Here's what happens when those two types meet...

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 33,679
    Cool video. Add in those who have 4WD and think it makes them invincible. I wonder if as more drivers are more distracted than ever, if pileups will become more common, as lack of attention seems to be a factor too.

    I was out on the highway a bit today. Volumes were fine, but there were several LLCs, usually guys in pickups - but one was a teenaged looking girl in a final run Tercel.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,870
    ...so naturally, at 7 AM, there's a LUNATIC riding a bicycle along the road wearing black with no lights. They swerve to avoid some plowed snow (DUH) and fall.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,450
    Is that the same one that Ron posted? Pretty amazing that folks just kept on coming at all speeds, despite what must have been myriad brake lights ahead in the distance. I'm not sure what goes through people's minds in that sort of situation, but getting out of your car and standing in the roadway really, REALLY shouldn't be one of them.... :sick:

    If only a dozen people were injured, I'd say a whole tassel of folks got off lucky.
  • Sorry if I reposted - may have missed it the first time, and that wouldn't be the first time.
    I was astounded at the speeds of the vehicles prior to the crash - if the road conditions were as they appeared.
  • ronsteveronsteve Posts: 435
    I'm not sure what goes through people's minds in that sort of situation, but getting out of your car and standing in the roadway really, REALLY shouldn't be one of them....

    If it seems like the pileup is about to be on, I can see where getting out of the car might seem like a good idea, given the possibility of ending up trapped and on fire. But I agree that standing in the roadway or anywhere in very close proximity is a bad idea. Ideally, move the car clear... if nothing else, move myself clear if I can get out of the vehicle and get a decent distance from the roadway. Preferably with as many stopped vehicles as possible between me and the idiots-at-speed.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,450
    I completely agree! Yeah, I didn't mean that I faulted those folks for getting out of the vehicles (esp those that were still in the road for whatever reason), but if you are just standing there in harm's way, it is much better to have a few tons of auto armoring you than being naked (relatively, not literally).

    Paul, with that amount of traffic and the limited visibility, I have to agree. Overall insanity. The initiating impact was your typical winter time inconsideration: Some people maintaining way too much speed differential, others not saying in the right lane where they belong.

    My mother, who drives a truck with her husband (team driving, they call it), was apparently about 10' shy of being in a major crash on I70 in... Indiana? I think she said. Some liability decided that their car, which apparently stalled out, would be best parked in the LEFT lane of the roadway without any lights on in the middle of the night. Another driver, with hazards on, stops on the right shoulder to assist the driver, so all the truckers coming down the road do what they're supposed to do.... move to the left lane! Truck #1.... BOOM! Stopped car is now dust, but truck is brutalized by it, loses steering, veers of the road down an embankment, trailer turns over across the road. Second truck clips the first trailer and also turns over. They were truck #3, and they stopped about 10' short of truck #2's trailer, which was across the highway and wedged against an overpass structural upright.

    Yep, that could have been REAL ugly.
  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,870
    7 AM, snow covered roads, bicycles.

    Nuff said

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  • steverstever YooperlandPosts: 40,416
    edited December 2013
    Don't get surly on us Sneakers. :D

    Lots of them in the college towns up here for the roads in the winter and the beach in the summer.

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  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,870

    Back to back winners today! Getting off I-99 on an exit ramp to make a left at the light at the end of the ramp and go across the overpass that spans the road. The light is red, so I stop. A car coming from my left across the overpass has two options: go straight or make a left to go down the ramp to the highway. They choose Option 3 and try to make a RIGHT down the ramp that I'm sitting on. Thankfully, they stop before they plow me.

    The light changes green and I make my left. It's at that point that two vehicles decide that being on the two-lane overpass is the ideal spot to stop in the middle of the road while a passenger moves from the front vehicle to the back.

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