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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Out on foot this morning - saw a woman in a Sentra take a free turn in front of an oncoming Accord and narrowly avoided being hit - she got some nice honking, which was deserved. Only one crosswalk crowder.
    Was out last night, I honked at what I think was an Infiniti, parked on a busy relatively narrow street with no street parking, no hazard lights, no nothing - and of course, the dbag honked back. Honked at a Focus that was at a light - driver distracted by passenger, light turns green, car does nothing, then hits the signal and turns at 1mph. Also was tailgated by a couple of young skanks in a VW cabrio, driver holding a cig, weaving through traffic but making no progress. Funny thing, I had to brake early for an upcoming turn.

  • johnvantinejohnvantine Santa Monica, CAPosts: 3

    I'm sure this has been mentioned already... But the use of turn signals seems to be a regional thing, and it drives me crazy!

    I spent most of my life in Pennsylvania, where the majority of people used turn signals. It becomes a second nature thing - I do it even when no one is behind me. It's a part of the turning process, so to speak.

    I've been in Los Angeles for a little over 3 years now, and it seems like no one uses them out here. It drives me crazy.

    Does anyone else feel like this is a regional thing?

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,651

    Absolutely, John! When you take a transcontinental trip, as my family did this past September, you get to see the regions come and go in accelerated motion! Use of signals is definitely more prevalent in some areas than others.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Seattle is pretty good about signal use all in all - save for BMW and Audi drivers, and maybe those in highline SUVs and little fake race cars.

    @xwesx said: Absolutely, John! When you take a transcontinental trip, as my family did this past September, you get to see the regions come and go in accelerated motion! Use of signals is definitely more prevalent in some areas than others.

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,769

    Two cases today of "How DARE you try to get in front of me?!?" First and worst was on a rush-hour freeway in early morning, still dark, stalled car on right shoulder with state trooper behind it with lights flashing. Most traffic was moving to the middle lane to stay clear. A few drivers were too oblivious to do that, stayed in the right lane. This happened right before my exit, so after I passed the stalled car I saw there was a good-sized break in the right lane and signaled for the lane change. The black pickup at the back of the gap decided to floor it instead of just maintaining speed to let me in safely. I scanned ahead and saw a gap a couple of cars ahead, so I floored it myself and ducked into that opening, just making my exit.

    A little later this morning, I was in the left lane of a 4-lane arterial (had moved around some slow traffic) and signaled to return to the right lane, and then changed lanes. Plenty of room in front of a black Durango, no drama at all. But for some reason he was upset that I got in front of him and flashed his high beams right after I changed lanes. A few blocks up he went around me, glaring at me as he passed me. He was in no hurry, doing the speed limit in the left lane so my car was alongside his for awhile. Eventually, he had to turn right so he sped up and changed lanes in front of me. Of course, I gave him a friendly flash of the high beams. :)

  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,967

    Drove to DC and back last night. 9:30 PM, driver in heavy traffic with absolutely no lights on. Honestly thought there was nobody behind me, just a big black hole.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,651

    @PFFlyer@Edmunds said: Drove to DC and back last night. 9:30 PM, driver in heavy traffic with absolutely no lights on. Honestly thought there was nobody behind me, just a big black hole.

    You should be able to tell the difference, though, as a black hole would create stronger gravity than a vehicle. :)

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  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,341

    @backy said: Two cases today of "How DARE you try to get in front of me?!?" First and worst was on a rush-hour freeway in early morning, still dark, stalled car on right shoulder with state trooper behind it with lights flashing. Most traffic was moving to the middle lane to stay clear. A few drivers were too oblivious to do that, stayed in the right lane. This happened right before my exit, so after I passed the stalled car I saw there was a good-sized break in the right lane and signaled for the lane change. The black pickup at the back of the gap decided to floor it instead of just maintaining speed to let me in safely. I scanned ahead and saw a gap a couple of cars ahead, so I floored it myself and ducked into that opening, just making my exit.

    A little later this morning, I was in the left lane of a 4-lane arterial (had moved around some slow traffic) and signaled to return to the right lane, and then changed lanes. Plenty of room in front of a black Durango, no drama at all. But for some reason he was upset that I got in front of him and flashed his high beams right after I changed lanes. A few blocks up he went around me, glaring at me as he passed me. He was in no hurry, doing the speed limit in the left lane so my car was alongside his for awhile. Eventually, he had to turn right so he sped up and changed lanes in front of me. Of course, I gave him a friendly flash of the high beams. :)

  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,341

    Those antics are usual when the other drivers don't want your wet spray to hit them headon. This is more than a frequent occurance in the GNW.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,651
    edited January 16

    @euphonium said: Those antics are usual when the other drivers don't want your wet spray to hit them headon. This is more than a frequent occurance in the GNW.

    Well, on one side of the GNW, anyway! :p

    I generally take weather conditions into play when deciding when to pull into the right lane ahead of another vehicle I recently passed. If it is dry snow like we typically get here (creates a snow blind when a vehicle drives through), I pull back in immediately ahead of the other vehicle (right lane is typically the "clear" lane due to higher traffic use) in order to minimize the snow blind effect. For heavy rain, wet snow, and other sorts of precipitation, I give more distance than usual before pulling over.

    We can't control the reaction of other drivers, so we must simply do what we can to be considerate and leave their actions to them.

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  • steverstever Viva Las CrucesPosts: 41,632

    Had some snow blindness tonight - rain going over to the next town an hour away, moderately heavy snow coming back a couple of hours later. Light traffic as usual. And everyone was taking it easy (even me, lol). The snow and visibility really didn't get bad until the last 5 miles at least.

    Only idiot was some guy on an ATV in a wide spot (one service station, one bar) who cut out in front of me crossing the highway. Naturally there were no lights on his rig. I think I know which establishment he was heading for.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Fun evening. I'll start with the nice encounter - while on foot, I crossed in front of a red Mini with no lights in the dark. I pointed at the car and looked at him, and he quickly waved at me and turned on the lights. Nice.

    Driving home was a zoo. Started off fine, then got stuck at a wildly long light. Once that was done, was on a 40mph road in a line of cars, because a gold-beige Camry several cars up didn't want to push it past 33. Then on a busy 35mph street, I am cruising in the left lane, CRV pulls out from a side street, veers into the left lane, and goes a bit slower than I (wasn't going more than 5 over). I pass on the right, and he speeds up. I speed up more, and get back in the left lane, as I'll eventually have to turn left. He then flashes me, as if I cut him off. I turn left at the next light, and can see him dawdling and holding up cars as I turn.

    Also saw a taxi make a ridiculous multi point U-turn, holding up at least 10 cars. Nobody honked.

  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,341

    Perhaps the taxi driver learned Driving in his home country.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Exactly. Bellevue is a very...diverse...driving environment.

    @euphonium said: Perhaps the taxi driver learned Driving in his home country.

  • backybacky Twin CitiesPosts: 18,769

    Not a lot of wet spray around when it's January in Minnesota, it's not snowing, and it's about 10 degrees. :p But if there were wet spray around... the bit of spray from my tiny Kia probably wouldn't have even reached the windshields of the big pickup or the Durango.

    @euphonium said: Those antics are usual when the other drivers don't want your wet spray to hit them headon. This is more than a frequent occurance in the GNW.

  • euphoniumeuphonium Great Northwest, West of the Cascades.Posts: 3,341

    It is so cold in Minnesota the men wear their pants pulled up.

  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Got to honk twice today - CRV stopped for a green light, then floored it after I woke them up, I'll say nothing more. RXD driven by an older woman who was brushing her hair, light turned green - didn't matter to her. Also saw a guy in a big truck eating a bowl of something, tell me that's better than holding a phone. Oh, also saw a girl in an S-class with a phone to her ear.

  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,967

    @johnvantine said: I'm sure this has been mentioned already... But the use of turn signals seems to be a regional thing, and it drives me crazy!

    I spent most of my life in Pennsylvania, where the majority of people used turn signals. It becomes a second nature thing - I do it even when no one is behind me. It's a part of the turning process, so to speak.

    I've been in Los Angeles for a little over 3 years now, and it seems like no one uses them out here. It drives me crazy.

    Does anyone else feel like this is a regional thing?

    Sometimes it's seems like there isn't time for signals in CA. Driving up the 5 from SD to LA I just go with the flow and STAY ALERT ;)

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    edited January 21

    On foot this morning, had to waive an airhead in a Suburban through a free turn because she was engrossed in the conversation being had with the phone held to her ear, and didn't notice the lineup behind her nor the empty street in front of her. So far past the time for license endorsements for behemoths.

    Crosswalk crowder today was a probably grumpy old man in an SSR of all things. Also saw a 500 Abarth blow through a red light - I don't mean the end of a yellow, this was red for probably 30 seconds before it went through. But to be fair, the light exists to let oncoming left turners through, so if it is empty ahead, no logical reason to stop, other than to appease the hardworking brave revenue enforcement sector.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,651

    @fintail said: But to be fair, the light exists to let oncoming left turners through, so if it is empty ahead, no logical reason to stop, other than to appease the hardworking brave revenue enforcement sector.

    Well, okay, but "blow through" it? I'm an advocate of using a driver's intelligence, so I have no problem with a stop-look-go when the situation warrants. If the driver simply failed to stop, however, that can be a terribly dangerous situation given that an opposing direction undoubtedly had a green. If nothing else, stopping (or even slowing significantly) at least gives a driver enough time to make a well-informed decision about when is the best time to cross.

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Probably going no more than 35, slight downhill, clear line of sight for several blocks - wouldn't be hard to see an oncoming car (there were none). What I saw wasn't dangerous or a close call per se, I was just surprised by it being so blatant. I'd wager the driver wasn't paying attention rather than intentionally running the light, which makes it worse.

    Stop-look-go should be legal in many places at many times. I do it often on my early morning commute. The only thing working against it is a need for control and money.

    @xwesx said: Well, okay, but "blow through" it? I'm an advocate of using a driver's intelligence, so I have no problem with a stop-look-go when the situation warrants. If the driver simply failed to stop, however, that can be a terribly dangerous situation given that an opposing direction undoubtedly had a green. If nothing else, stopping (or even slowing significantly) at least gives a driver enough time to make a well-informed decision about when is the best time to cross.

  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla MarylandPosts: 701

    Well, today we had a snowstorm in Maryland. And there was so much wind that it really reduced visibility.

    So naturally, what did the majority of Maryland drivers do? They left their lights off.

  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,651

    I heard about that snowstorm! I also heard that it wasn't much fun to be out in it due to the snarled traffic....

    I would like to see some colder temps and a little snowfall here, if you can believe it! It's been weeks since our last substantial snow event, and temps are hovering near freezing (which is way too warm for this time of year).

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    Last few commutes have been very nice - decent volumes, nothing too stupid, slowpokes only a little annoying - and even when on foot, no loud crosswalk crowders. But this evening, on-ramp with a line of traffic merging (there's a light leading up to it), greybeard in a red Mini doesn't think he should wait, floors, it, passes everyone on the right (carpool lane), then has to hit his brakes at the end of the ramp because traffic clumped up. A Mini is a BMW product, so it makes sense.

  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,967

    I guess I'm just lucky. Almost EVERY time I've driven at night lately, there's always someone driving with no lights on. All the people flashing their lights at the offenders seem to have no apparent effect on them. A good case for the death penalty, don't ya think?? :@

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189

    That might be a little harsh...but maybe not.

    It's an epidemic in the PNW. I've noticed lately more than a couple "drivers" who think parking lights are just as good, too. I don't get the mentality - they want to be visible, just not too visible. Also, Lexus vehicles seem to be leaders in the use of fog lights on city streets in clear weather. Must be a pretend sporty thing.

    @PFFlyer@Edmunds said: I guess I'm just lucky. Almost EVERY time I've driven at night lately, there's always someone driving with no lights on. All the people flashing their lights at the offenders seem to have no apparent effect on them. A good case for the death penalty, don't ya think?? :@

  • PF_FlyerPF_Flyer Pennsylvania Furnace, PAPosts: 5,967

    Oh I'm not talking parking lights or DRL's... I see TONS of them. These folks have NO lights on at all. Just a big black hole in front of you or in the rear view mirror. I got honked at one on the beltway in DC last week because I changed lanes without seeing them and cut THEM off.

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  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,651

    The awesomeness of XKCD cannot be overstated. :)

    Clearly, this is serendipity!

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  • fintailfintail Posts: 34,189
    edited January 25

    Oh yeah I know. It is just as bad here, maybe worse than many places as so many roads are covered with a tree canopy - makes it dark even in waning daylight. I saw a minivan out well after sunset with no lights - but NY plates, so that might explain it :)

    Out today, saw a Subaru turn left onto a busy street, right in front of me, and dawdle along well under the limit. I passed on the right, but for some reason, a truck behind me wouldn't pass - and missed a light for it. The Subie deserved a pit maneuver, perhaps.

    And this is so shocking, I can't believe it - there's no doubt in my mind. This sick mixture of public sector and fake businessmen seems like a foundation stone of fascism. The payer and payee deserve some...justice.

    And a funny read

    @PFFlyer@Edmunds said: Oh I'm not talking parking lights or DRL's... I see TONS of them. These folks have NO lights on at all. Just a big black hole in front of you or in the rear view mirror. I got honked at one on the beltway in DC last week because I changed lanes without seeing them and cut THEM off.

  • gogogodzillagogogodzilla MarylandPosts: 701

    @PFFlyer@Edmunds said: Oh I'm not talking parking lights or DRL's... I see TONS of them. These folks have NO lights on at all. Just a big black hole in front of you or in the rear view mirror. I got honked at one on the beltway in DC last week because I changed lanes without seeing them and cut THEM off.

    It's because many new cars now have electroluminescent dash lighting, so it's always lit up, day or night. So when it gets dark out, the driver looks down and can see the dash... which is the usual cue for one to turn on the lights (aka: when you can't clearly see the speedometer).

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