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Hyundai Tiburon

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  • rwms3rwms3 Posts: 7
    Would the 3.5 V6 (sweetly tuned, of course) fit? If so, why not? Hyundai, just cut the crap.

    Unless you're willing to turbo a valve-timed four to compete with the so-called economy and revs of RSX/Celica stuff, go exclusvely V6, and blow the pig or give me bigger. C'mon, all you mourning Camaro/F'bird buyers.. ... Oh, yea, Hyundai, don't forget to finally explore REAR WHEEL DRIVE. ... (Okay, so it'd weigh a bit more)
  • rwms3rwms3 Posts: 7
    When warm, the idle stays way high (1400-2000) for a good minute if allowed. Am I alone here?
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Adding the power top will increase the price roughly 5k. Mitsu's 3000 GT Spyder was so expensive because Mitsu started with a 45k car and then added the hardware, bring the price to 50k. So, I expect prices to be around 25k for the Tib convertible. I'd take the hardtop convertible Tiburon anyday over a cheaper fabric top. Cloth and vinyl tops wear out after about 8 years of use and they start looking moldy well before that, detracting from the cars looks. They also are easily cut and broken into. The folding hardtop solves all those problems. I'm so excited Hyundai is bringing this car to market!! Maybe I will have my car paid down enough by 07 to trade up. Then I could sell my 92 Miata since I will have the comfort of a closed coupe and the fun of a convertible all in one. Please Hyundai, don't change your mind about bringing it to the US!!
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    No idle problems here. My engine has never idled high in warmer temps. As for the 3.5, no it won't fit in the Tiburon's engine bay. You wouldn't want that big, heavy iron block engine up there anyway. It would throw the handling all out of wack and turn it into a huge understeerer.
  • I have had a high and rough idle but only when I first start the car on a cold day. It stops after about 30 seconds.

    Got a question though anyone else had there ecm reprogrammed per a recent recall. The dealer I went to did mine automatically last time I was there for a recall (went in to get my brake lines repositioned).

    Car now runs horribly I can only guess it’s from this ecm reprogram. Agh!

    As for the car steering pulling mine has pulled to the right since the day I got it (steering wheel is never straight always cock eyed) been told by 3 dealerships that its every thing from the road sloping to the wheel is just put on wrong and can't be adjusted. Let me know if you can get this fixed.

    Other than that and both door window motors dying this car is great.

    Thanks
  • skuuterskuuter Posts: 144
    I was worried about having the ECM upgraded myself. I was in for the brake line repositioning recall and the SW mentioned the reflash. I asked if it would be possible to restore the version I had if performance was affected. I was told the old version could be applied.

    Anyway, I did allow them to reflash the ECM and car still runs perfectly. As for pulling to the right, I've never had this problem when driving normally. All I can relate to is the torque steer on hard acceleration, but that's to be expected on this car.

    I would ask the dealer to reflash your ECM again.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    What were the signs of your power windows failing? My one time fluke with the power window fuse (look up a few posts) has turned into a more major electrical problem. My windows refused to work again this morning and messing with the fuse didn't help. I opened the door and the window suddenly worked. I was at a drive through so once I got my stuff and attempted to put the window back up, it refused to work. I decided to drive straight to the dealer to show them the problem. I messed with the fuse on and off all the way and the window wouldn't go up. And wouldn't you know it, when I pulled up to the dealer, opened my door and then slammed it shut, the window magically started working again. I think I have some kind of short or loose connection inside my door panel, but this is going to be one major hassle to get fixed if it stays so intermittent. I'm wondering if your window problem was the same, or did the motor just die one day?
  • My driver’s window stopped all together but I also never played with it I just took it straight to the dealer.

    Dealer said it was probably the motor so they replaced the window motor but it still didn't work. So they tried replacing the wiring harness I guess the electric clips were bad because it worked after they did that.

    This could very well be your problem too you might want to have them run a current through the wire harness and see if they get electricity at the switch.

    Dealer said he has seen plenty of other people with the same problem.

    I have to go back next week though to have both interior panels replaced. I guess nylon pry bars and making sure you have all the screws out before you pull on the door panel is a forgin concept to my mechanic.

    Good luck

    p.s. my passenger window was just a burned up motor but it did work off and on before it went completely.
  • rwms3rwms3 Posts: 7
    For whatever reason, the idle on my car now seems to be working properly -- it does not stay up between shifts and quickly drops to about 800 rpm at stops. (It seemed to have "healed" when I floored it in second turning right around a corner at the bottom of an off ramp, keeping it just under redline and lighting up the right front. ...) Could this have something to to with a rev sensor/computer issue?

    As for the slope in the road causing the pulling to the right, mine still pulled right even in the left oncoming lane which slopes to the LEFT. Then again, when I tried to confirm this again yesterday, the car did in fact slowly pull left. The pull to the right has never been severe. I'll keep on it.
  • My Tib is very sensitive to the road's crown especially to the right. When I put on my winter tires there was a slight decrease in the normal right (pull isn't exactly the right word, more like ummm, interest. Yeah, it's interested in the right). When I've positioned it on top of the crown or on a dead level surface it tracks perfectly straight.(when power is neutral) I think it's just a case of responsive & sensitive steering. BTW the tires I put on for snow were Continental ExtremeContact. They've made the Tib the best 2WD vehicle for snow I've ever had. (And I've had a lot of them!)
  • Just trying to find out if any fellow tib owners have a light come on when they open there glove box? GT-v6
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    My glove box has a light that comes on only when the parking or headlights are on.
  • I've had my red Tiburon aka Red Hysteria for 7 months and love it..You can view my car w/mods here
    http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/474000nths

    Also want to mention that I didn't buy a Eclipse nor Celica or Mustang for 3 reasons.. #1) everyone owns them, so how unique will u be driving what everyone else has? #2) price on Tiburons are better and you get more for what you pay for... 3) Tiburons look better, love the dual exhaust.. and they stick out.. especially mine..

    I have the V4 5 speed and love it, I added a CAI and I have more HP (12+ approx.), and a nice deeper throaty sound to the engine.. added Platinum-Bosch spark plugs also. My car not a speed demon, but bet I'd rip a part those Civics Honda churns out like candy and overprices them..

    As for my experience (good/bad) with this car, here it is:

    GOOD:
    1: it looks good, unique, has a bit of all the good stuff other car manufacturers have put on their sports coupe (such as the Eclipse, Ferrari, etc).. 2: sound system excellent, however, I added subs, and new H/U (see website). 3: gas mileage good.. I could go on and on, but I'd only repeat what others here have said.

    BAD:
    1: left power window motor went out, replaced a month ago.. 2: wind noise is a factor around sunroof if sliding thing pushed back at high speeds.
  • I like that shiny red Hyundai sells from the factory, Rally Red. I drive a '01 Kia Sportage but if I were to buy a sports car it would be the Tibby. You've really got yours waxed shiny, looks great! There is something about that look of the headlamps and as you go alonside it those gills behind the wheel wells...it is truly a unique car and I ALWAYS stare at one if I see a '03- Tiburon on the road. I dig the new Tidal Wave blue color, too, although I like it second to Rally Red! Enjoy it!

    2008 Mitsubishi Lancer GTS

  • I also went with rally red. It’s an eye catching color.

    Thanks lngtonge18 for the tip on my glove box light. Mine also lights when I turn my lights on, that was driving me nuts. I wonder why Hyundai has it set up like that?

    Fyi- Hyundai dose not install cabin air filters in the Tiburons at the factory I found this out the hard way. Last time the landscapers mowed they used there gas blowers to clean up, well they covered my car with sand. None the less to say it was not a pretty site when I turned my a/c on.

    I spent the rest of the day vacuming my car out.

    The cabin filters are available only through Hyundai for about $50.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I guess Hyundai assumes that if it's dark enough for you to need a glovebox light then you must already have your lights on. It's a common assumption nowadays. Japanese cars are designed the same way. The last car I've seen that has its own switch activated by opening the glovebox is my 84 Rabbit GTI. I will say that the deep glovebox on the Tiburon combined with the small windows and black interior does make it a little hard to see things in the back of the glovebox.
  • I am use to domestic cars (fords)that usually had it linked to the closing switch. This is my first forgin car.

    Gas mileage on my last long road trip (over Christmas) I got 29.2 mpg. This was doing a constant 70mph.
  • rwms3rwms3 Posts: 7
    I noticed mine works even when the lights or parking lights are off. But then again, I have the dome light set to light up when the door opens (the middle button on the top by the dome lite; i think it says "door" on it.) I suspect your trunk light will come on if you keep the door/dome light depressed.

    Tkanks for the tip on the pull to the right, itsatib.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I need some input from those with a V6. When I start up my 03 GT in the morning and its cold out, it almost never idles fast like every other car I have seen. It normally idles at 1k for a couple of minutes and then drops down to the regular 700 rpm. On a few rare occassions, the idle ramped up to 1500 rpms for 30 seconds, then decreased to 1k, and then 700. My question is, shouldn't the car idle fast every morning, particularly when its below freezing like it was this morning? I know Mitsubishi and Mazda use a step motor to start the idle at 1500-1800 and then slowly drops it down over the course of a few minutes. I'm wondering if Hyundai uses something similar and maybe mine isn't working or if the ECU isn't adjusting it like it's supposed to. It's not a big deal, but it does take a lot longer to warm the car up. I like to allow it time to warm up because the auto tranny shifts harshly into 3rd gear if I don't. Which brings me to another question: Does anyone's automatic have a harsh shift the first time into 3rd gear when the engine isn't warmed up fully? It's a harsh enough shift that it jerks the whole car. After that one harsh shift, everything is smooth again. Anyone else experience this or is your automatic smooth all the time regardless of what the temp gauge is reading?
  • hudraheadhudrahead Posts: 169
    intonge: I had a similar problem on my 2001 4 cyl Tibby and it turned out to be a wacko temp sensor sending wrong signals to the OBC. Since both the cold start idle speed and the transmission shift are controlled by various sensors that may be the culprit. You may have to leave your car overnight @ the dealer so they can duplicate it on a "cold" start. It may also have stored some info in the OBC that will tell what is happening. Good luck !!

    HUD :):)
  • skuuterskuuter Posts: 144
    Lngtonge18,

    That sounds like normal operation to me. My car does the exact same thing. I usually wait for about a minute for the idle to drop to 700 RPM or so. Seems to do the same in warmer weather, too. I remember reading somewhwhere that it was to ensure the cylinder sleeve liners expanded a bit before you started driving.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    What about the harsh very first shift into 3rd gear? Do you have an automatic and have you ever encountered the harsh shift if you didn't let the engine warm up fully?
  • skuuterskuuter Posts: 144
    Never experienced a hard shift into 3rd gear, and, yes, I have an automatic.

    The only time I've ever noticed a hard shift is on a coasting turn (i.e., without throttle) when the tranny has downshifted at about the same time I add throttle. I consider that normal as I am working against what the tranny thinks it should be doing.
  • rwms3rwms3 Posts: 7
    I have a six and it does the same thing, Intonge18 and skuuter, regardless of temperature outside. (In fact, it actually idled at start a bit higher when WARM out.) I think the computer determines the idle at start up regardless of temp outside. The manual says it has no warmup time.
  • Its TSB number 02-40-019

    This should fix your hard up or down shift. For me it was 2nd to 3rd and out of 2nd to 1st.

    They have to reprogram the shifts.

    Worked for me my car never shifts hard in any gear anymore.

    Good luck
  • I bought '03 Carbon Blue Tiburon GT 6sp in April and love it. I am at about ~6500 mi

    I got the recalls taken care of... I didn't experience anything negative from the ECM update.

    Does anyone experience any un-necessary moisture? The only problem I had was with my windows not rolling all the way up. They didn't go up far enough to get under the trip lip. I took it in pretty immediately. They adjusted it, but messed up my door-pull, which they had to replace. Even now, when I take it though the car wash, a high pressure water rinse will cause a drop or two of water to still come in. Anyway... in the last couple months, I have noticed that my windows fog up pretty often, warm, cool, whenever... The dealer said its just the defroster automatically turning on the A/C. I don't buy it... They checked the weather seals and said everything is fine. I very rarely have my windows open and use the Defroster with AC, to dehumidify the interior air... anyone else getting foggy windows... <get your mind out of the gutter! ;) >

    I too experience a slight pull to the right... Since many people have listed that on this site... it sounds like a global problem we just have to live with?

    One last thing... in the snow, my car slips quite a bit. I don't gun it or any tying... even when breaking I found myself slipping quite a bit. I was thinking about getting some 16in wheels and snow tires for the winter... any suggestions?
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Do you know exactly what they did when they reprogrammed the shifts? Did it involve disconnecting the battery and then driving the car to let the computer learn new shift points or did they do something else (like hook up their computer and reprogram the shift algorithms)? I have tried disconnecting the battery and letting the computer relearn my driving. It seemed to help some, but not completely. My automatic isn't horrible, just not the best either. For the most part, it shifts fine. It just has the hard shift into 3rd gear the first time in the morning and it sometimes clunks/bumps as it downshifts into 1st gear (first to 2nd upshift can be firm sometimes too). If Hyundai has anywhere they need to improve, its in the refinement of their trannys.
  • is the diagnostic computer they use to reprogram the shifts.

    Basically they do a ride along and develop a (flight record).

    Then they look at how the TCM runs the gears if after a manual correction from the hi scan the problem gets better they have to replace your TCM.

    I have the TSB that I can email if needed.

    This car does have a (strong shift) from 2nd to 3rd and from 3rd to 2nd. As far as I know nothing fixes this it&#146;s just a characteristic of the tranny but mine did improve when they swapped out the TCM.

    Have you checked a/t fluid levels too?

    Good luck.

    PS nope all the battery disconect does is unlearn the computer. So if your TCM is bad it will just go back to the way it was before.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    I would appreciate you emailing the tsb. My email is walk2camp@aol.com. Thanks!
  • mike91326mike91326 SoCalPosts: 245
    I was looking at the specs for Hyundai&#146;s HCD-8 concept and saw where it had a supercharged version of their 2.7 Delta motor that put out about 250 horses. Imagine if they dropped this motor in a Tib GT-V6. Even if it bumped the price another 2 grand it would be the best bargain on the road. Hyundai, if your reading the boards, hint, hint.
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