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give your opinion why ford F series trucks are the #1 vehicle sold in the world.



  • modvptnlmodvptnl Posts: 1,352
    quad, I've tried.

    White, I agree that Ford still sells more light duty trucks than chevy or GMC, but not both. It has NEVER been said any other way and I see both sides of the debate. HOWEVER, I've seen almost as much fighting about chev vs. GMC as I have chev vs________so I'm not convinced they are 100% interchangeable as far as brand loyalty.

    Vw, how many times are you gonna' make that EXACT same post??? Just curious.
  • white250white250 Posts: 68
    Ok this should make everyone happy.

    General Motor's sell's more trucks than Ford Motor Co.

    Ford F-series truck brand sell's more truck's than chevrolet truck brand.

    There , now everyone be happy !!
  • quadrunner500quadrunner500 Posts: 2,728
    You too White.

    Flaprunner500 :)
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    So what? It was assembled in US, using US workers. What more do you want? At least Toyota is not closing down plants and firing people in the middle of a recession.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    Point was: bestseller does not mean "best build, quality, power, features, price, etc. etc. etc, best thing since sliced bread"
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    recession? you just showed your true colors my man, that or your immaturity. is this why i have made $2000 on one mutual fund since last december? cuz of a recession? we are not in a recession my friend. watch fox or cnn. you may learn something.
  • jcmdiejcmdie Posts: 595
    Sc0rpi0, It is true that the Tundra is assembled in the US by US workers. It is also true that the US parts content is lower than Chevy, Ford, or Dodge. That means imported parts assembled into a truck here. Which supports or economy more? I'm not sure.

    tbunder, Being a business owner in the manufacturing sector, I assure you that we are in a recession. The reason that it is classified so mild in the news is that it hasn't affected all areas of the economy. Many service ares of the economy and construction are unaffected or actually better than before. Manufactureing is down. Orders for "durable goods" are up, but where are the durable goods made? Go to your local store and pick up items for sale and see where they are made. This will give you a clue as to why US manufacturing is in a recession.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    Oh yeah, thats right. The unemployment rate, low interest rates are there because Greenspan got tired of this quiet life and wanted to give americans a run for their money. Companies are going under and firing thousands of people because they feel like it. Boy, who has a foot in their mouth now? Simpson is not it is hyped up to be....they don't teach statistics, physics, and now economics (but we knew that already).
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    With the situation nowdays, everybody is outsourcing production. Ford is outsourcing production of smaller parts to Mexico, but we don't see anyone caling Ford "not american" nowdays. Toyota wouldn't be a Japanese company if they started doing their design and manufacturing here too.
  • oldharryoldharry Posts: 413
    Superduty trucks are very different than F-150's. If I needed a 3/4 ton or bigger for what I haul and pull, I would buy a Ford. As I seldom tow, and never over 5000 #, and 1500# is the most I put in the bed, I drive a Chevy 1500. Ford sells more Superduty trucks than F-150's. Chevy only sells a fraction as many 2500 + trucks as their 1500's. Chevy racers pull their trailers with Fords because thet need big trucks. You don't see them pulling their Cameros with F-150's. Ford PSD is a million mile engine in a 300K truck. All the half tons are 300k trucks and engines. (I know someone knows of an exception). Now if Dodge would just build a truck to match the Cummins, You could buy one right out of high school and work it till you retire.

  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    i sense a little jealousy, eh???? nevermind, just cuz our commander in chief says we aren't in a recession, and all of the experts say the same thing, this must mean that we are? just cuz the manufacturing sector is down doesn't mean that we are in a national recession. it just means that part is down, ie. the demand rate isn't there right now. if we were in a recession, people wouldn't be buying cars and trucks and houses left and right. my sister works for john deere, and they are producing lots of product here in iowa. the usa isn't the only customers.

    scorpio- simpson was just rated #1 in the midwest. check out us news and world report. im sorry you had to go to community tech, but dont insult others with your dime store education.

    scorpio- another little thingy (SOME ADVICE). you're young- if i were you, id stop buying piddly little things (like expensive trucks), and invest 20 grand in some type of investment. by the time you were 60, with a growth rate of at least 10% (which is not hard to achieve) you could have nearly $1,000,000 to retire with. not counting your 401k if you have one. ever ponder the thought of compound interest? remember, that 10% is very small. most do lots better. the key is to hold on for the long run. dont sell like a moron like so many did 9-12. ill still be around when you turn 60. you can thank me then.
  • Hey scorpio--->There will always be industries on the rise and fall. Companies will always be hiring and firing. But all the indicators now show that everybody tucked their head (and wallet) in good and tight after the 9/11 event. But now things are getting back on their feet, after the general public realized that their fear of being a good consumer was unfounded.

    So your original comment about Ford having to lay off people to get back to basics is based on what? You do realise that Toyota doesn't even employe more than 30,000 people in America.

    Even though you tout that Toyota manufactures in USA, don't you know where the profits are going? The name brand is still Toyota, which is not owned by Americans. And guess who is planning on building trucks parts in mexico? Toyota! Future Tacoma beds will be made in Mexico.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    I'm not even gonna answer any of that. First of all, it's all offtopic, and second...well, you wouldn't understand.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    Sure, companies hire and fire people. But not on the scale it's been done lately. "Dell has announced layoffs of 5,000 of its workforce in Austin, TX". Do those headlines ring a bell? That's bulk firing right there. All industries are so close to each other nowdays, if one falls, others will feel the impact and feel it good.

    We are talking about Ford here, btw. You are changing it to Toyota and Toyotas' faults. Maybe Toyota does not employ 30K people....great. Ford is employing 30K less now, and Toyota employees keep on working (hopefully). They are taking home a paycheck and whatever else benefits.
    What about Mexico? Ford's been building parts in Mexico for a while now, nobody in US seems to be complaining. If Toyota can build parts for cheaper and lower prices, great. I'm not going to be complaining.
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    nice dodge. looks like you may have learned a little bit, like what compound interest is? eh? its on your side bud. oh yeah, what wouldn't i understand? you're the one who won't reply to the post. how do those toenails taste?
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    Why are you trying real hard to get me into this discussion? I have no desire to try and talk to you about what education I have and how to manage my money. I don't know how the toenails taste, thank you very much, and have no plans to find out. Are you speaking from personal experience? It seems that you are feeling a little....pissed off? For all the things you've said that turned out to be complete nonsense (that you have defended so vigirously...does "Who taught you physics?!?" ring a bell, just to name one?), you are trying to find a person who you can blabber about how much money you made during the economic recession, how nice your new Harley is, how great a nightschool diploma in CJ from Simpson is, etc. Get a dog for that.
  • tbundertbunder Posts: 580
    just like i thought, you don want to talk. you're the one who claimed we were in a recession, (thus starting this convo), so i am just stating reasons why i think we are not. do yourself a favor, and start some investments. it's not hard. your toyota is definitely not an investment. a hog otoh, definitely is.
  • Ford trucks are the number one selling truck for 25 years, isn't it? That is going back a few years.

    I know some people don't care about sales volume, stating it has nothing to do with how great a vehicle is. These people tend to drive vehicles that aren't #1.

    Let us not forget that you should not buy a vehicle because it is the best selling. You should buy the vehicle that fits your needs, wants, budget, and expectations. Being the best selling vehicle is not the cause of being the best vehicle. The best selling statistics is the effect of being the best vehicle.

    Let's see, I have a friend with a 1969 F100 Ranger that can still tow very well. My father has a 1990 F150 XLT Lariat, that is in pristine condition. He's looking at a 2002 F150, but just doesn't want to trade in a truck that runs so good. I goto Oklahoma often to visit my Girlfriends family. Her father drives a 2001 F150 with a V10, and her grandfather owns 3 Fords on his Ranch in Ada. Roughly a 1981, 88, and a 92. My girlfriend's uncle drives a 2001 F-250 diesel crew cab 4x4. We loaded up the gooseneck trailer one weekend, had over 3 cords of wood loaded in the bed and trailer, plus about 100-150 bags of feed. Just picture a longbed 4x4 F-250, with a 30 foot trailer behind it filled up to the brim. And the last leaf spring on the pickup was barely down to the conact points on the frame. With family on the inside, we drove back from Oklahoma to the McKinney area of north texas. His loaded up f-250 was hard to keep up with in our 2001 Accord. One of my friends in college has a farm in Texas, and he drove a early 90's F150. This last one was beat up, but farm work on top of a 20 year old behind the wheel you do the math. My old roomate had a leased 96ish base F150, manual v6 and all. Let's just say after the 2 or so years he owned it, the oil never got changed, the clutch was dropped many a times, and he drove that thing all over Texas(and other states, even up to Montana). After turning it in, with all that abuse, he wished he owned it still today. All trucks mentioned still run great, no matter how much abuse, milage, or neglect.

    My point to make is that I don't think I am biased against buying other brands, even though I am surrounded by Fords. Our minds are not changed by a few simple recalls. When we get a letter, we just take the Ford in and have a part replaced or serviced, and go on our happy ways. Ford does take care of it's customers.

    I guess it really comes down to brand loyalty. You buy a Ford Truck typically because you know someone who has one, or have one in the family. Then you will know what Built Ford Tough really means. That's why you older Ford's trucks still on the road, because they just don't die. Ford still offers the best deals on trucks. You just can't get more of a truck for such a great deal. If you're a commuter, a home depot regular, a kid hauler, or if you hook up and haul anything for the farm, you really can't go wrong with a Ford.
  • sc0rpi0sc0rpi0 Posts: 897
    The only time a vehicle is an investment is when it is a classic model. 1960s Mustangs and Camaros are an investment. Your everyday Ford Ranger and my Toyota Tacoma are not investments.
    Quit trying to impress people with your statements like "Why don't you start some investments". You are not as smart as you think you are, and others are not as dumb as you think they are.
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