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Vibe/ Matrix v. PT Cruiser v. ZX5 v. Protege5 v. Elantra GT v. Aerio SX

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  • mpgmanmpgman Posts: 723
    No contest. It beats them all on price, content, warranty, and size. Focus has old fashioned side mirrors that don't fold...Elantra GT's fold and are heated. Matrix and Vibe are overpriced. Pro-5 is nice but Elantra GT is much better for driver comfort and leg room. PT Cruiser mpgs are poor. GT the only one with standard side air bags, 4 wheel discs, trip computer, leather. Hyundai has come a long way since they hired a ton of Honda engineers.
  • mrolandmroland Posts: 129
    Elantra GT is a lot of car for the money. No doubt about that. But we can find one nice off ramp I'll tell you which hold the road better. My focus is more fun to drive. It always depends on what you priotities are, that is why there are so many cars on the market that manage to find homes.
  • 5port5port Posts: 395
    Realistically speaking...what are you doing the most in your car 1) driving straight ahead and accelerating hard or 2) in a turn and trying to find the max G reading? If you picked 1 go with the GT. If you picked 2 go with the p5.
  • shov6shov6 Posts: 177
    God help me if the day ever comes that I choose my car on the basis of whether or not the side-mirrors fold.

    -SHOV6
  • jaskingjasking Posts: 10
    Nice thing about the Focus is that the mirrors don't just fold, they fall right off (judging from the number I've seen with packing tape holding them on).
  • shriqueshrique Posts: 338
    I've actually noticed that. And on that note...more Focus issues http://www.auto.com/industry/defect7_20020607.htm


    Personally the P5 was the right combination. Man that thing handles great!

  • dogtrainerdogtrainer Posts: 96
    Let's see...the engine may stall at speed, the front suspension collapses, two different air bag malfunctions, rear wheel bearings may fail, and the engine may catch fire.

    This in addition to eight, count 'em, eight recalls for problems ranging from failing seat latches and windshield wipers to throttle sticking open!

    Yeah, Ford has sure made great strides in quality. I'm sure glad I bought a Matrix.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    From Edmunds' Future Vehicle Section, here's some information about the 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser Turbo. What do you think?


    Also, for more focused discussion on the PT Turbo, come join us in our new 2003 PT Cruiser Turbo discussion on the Wagons Board. See ya there! ;-)


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  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    Why is the turbo discussion on the Wagons board if the normally aspirated is on the Hatchback board? Inquiring minds want to know ;-D
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    I started it up on the Wagons board mainly because Edmunds classifies it as a midsize wagon in their Future Vehicles section.

    Btw, our main PT Cruiser discussion is linked to both the Hatchbacks and Wagons board. I could also link the PT Turbo discussion to Hatchbacks if people would like that. I thought I'd wait to see if the discussion drew much traffic. Okay? ;-)

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  • mrolandmroland Posts: 129
    Have not had a recall.
  • crkeehncrkeehn Posts: 513
    Even Edmunds can't decide what the PT Cruiser is ;-D

    If it's any help, the State of Maryland classes the PT Cruiser as a 4 door sedan.
  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Posts: 1,722
    Insightful as ever. Pro, that was an almost troll like post.....
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,677
    No need to post in topics if all you're planning to do is put down models you don't own. Golden rule: if you don't have something that contributes to the discussion, don't post.

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  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Posts: 1,722
    contributes? never heard of the word ;-)

    Actually, the cars listed in the topic are all good cars in there own ways. Right now this is a hotly contested section. Not like the midsize sedan line where you'll have a lot of dead wood. (Malibu, 626, Sable, etc...)
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,677
    true enough, kev. If I were shopping for a Hatchback, all but one of the cars on in this topic would be on my test-drive list, and the one would be excluded only because I've already driven it.

    There seems to be a resurgence of the hatchback market. When the old-style Escort hatchback went the way of the Dodo, the rest of the market seemed near extinction as well. I'd love to see sales trends over the past 5 years, inclusive of 2002, for hatchbacks.

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  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Posts: 1,722
    The only one that I didn't seriously consider was the PT crusier because it isn't as fun (to me) to drive as the others above. Still it is a very effective layout, and it is stylish.

    Problem with some here is that they think everyone else has the same exact needs in a car and prefers the exact same things. While the PT cruiser's not for me, it is still a very competent offering.

    By the way, if, and when, do you think Honda will bring over the 5-door civic? Or do you think that they'll only hurt CRV sales by doing that?
  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,677
    The PT Cruiser is the only one I've driven, and that was as a rental car in -- get this -- downtown San Francisco. Needless to say, it wasn't the car for THAT particular job! But kudos to Chrysler for taking the chance on a really different looking car.

    I'm really not knowledgeable about the 5-door Civic, kev. It'd be great to see, since it would expand Civic's market to include young families with children who prefer NOT to have kids climbing over seats to get into the back. The CR-V is a totally different vehicle. I like to think of it as the urban SUV - An SUV, yes, but small enough to park in high-density street parking areas.

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  • seminole_kevseminole_kev Posts: 1,722
    by the way, if you don't like the styling of the Si, you're not going to like this:


    http://www.honda.co.uk/new_cars/images/big_cars/Family_10400_5_front.jpg


    But I think they should still offer it here. Of course, I wish they'd sell the Jazz here too. Bet they could sell more of them than the Toyota Echo does.


    http://www.honda.co.uk/new_cars/images/big_cars/Compact_10409_5_front.jpg

  • Kirstie@EdmundsKirstie@Edmunds Posts: 10,677
    OK, I'm not trying to be funny here, but add two doors to this 1974 Civic, and you'll see a similarity! Sure, the new one is more sleek, but you can tell they're related.

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