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Vibe/ Matrix v. PT Cruiser v. ZX5 v. Protege5 v. Elantra GT v. Aerio SX

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  • baggs32baggs32 Posts: 3,209
    "How come they never do original things like that?????"

    Probably because Soccer Moms would burn holes in their stockings every time they exited the vehicle. :)

    The rest of us just have to suffer I guess.
  • gkxpgkxp Posts: 12
    I had a 2000 Prizm with AT and the VVT-i engine and I would swear that my Aerio is faster. Wasn't the previous-generation Corolla also lighter than the current one? I wish we could get accurate hard numbers on these cars with AT.

    PRACTICE makes perfect! I have been driving for about 10 years and have had a total with this Aerio of 41 cars (several old junks when I started driving). Part of the reason I trade so often is I put 6000-7000 miles a month on my cars driving to and from work (65 mile commute daily, 1 way) and I drive FOR my job also (about 200 or so miles average a day).
     
    The big keys to this trading for me are a TON of constant Research, Buying Low, Selling High. Also, living in a large metro area (Chicagoland) helps with all the competition. By the way, I also have to search out most competitive dealerships and I LOVE TO HAGGLE!
  • gkxpgkxp Posts: 12
    With this high mileage I drive and the fact that we only have 1 car in our family and I cannot afford to be without it, so it must be 100% reliable (new, newer). I also don't want to spend any additional money on repair/maintenance (except oil) either and so this constant trading every 20K miles or so makes for no out of pocket expenses except for the cost of the depreciation of the car.
  • jontyreesjontyrees Posts: 159
    Yes, indeed, I really put a gel pad from a computer mousepad on the "ledge" of the drivers door where I rest my elbow. I think it was $6.99, and it's very comfortable - much better than the hard plastic underneath it. It's black, so it's pretty unobtrusive visually.

    I've done a few things to my Aerio - some cheap, some not, and it makes me smile when I drive it. I installed a fairly extensive stereo system, with a subwoofer built in to the cargo floor (<$100, did it myself with stuff out of my old car), added leather seating and door panels($100 on ebay, $400 for installation), attached a little black and red neoprene sack to hold my sunglasses, etc ($8), installed a daisy-chained ground wire kit ($39), dropped in a K&N replacement air filter into the existing box($34.95), and next week I should be receiving a set of springs, bushings and rear sway bar that will dramatically alter the somewhat "tippy" handling characteristics ($340).

    Any time you buy a car, you're going to have to make some compromises, especially in the economy class, but this car is working out very well for me. I don't know why people feel the need to continually criticize a particular car, even when there are current owners repeatedly saying "I like it, it's a good car".

    I like it - it's a good car.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    HEAR HEAR!

    To each his own...if there was one car that was clearly, factually best, what would be the point in there even being a wide variety to choose from? Everyone has individual needs and tastes.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • tictac2tictac2 Posts: 12
       After three months of comparing, test driving, shopping and haggling, I finally decided on the Suzuki. The one I bought is a 2003 SX demo with 2200 miles, Pearl White, Auto, ABS, AWD(wasn't looking for but decided to get), tint, roof rack, alarm, center armrest(a definite necessity) and I got out the door for $16K. I feel pretty good about the deal I got and love the car so far(going on three weeks now). I decided on the Aerio over the Elantra GT because of looks and insurance rates(10% lower for the Aerio). Thanks again to all who post on these boards for helping with my decision. I will keep you updated on how it goes.
     
       Has anyone had issues with washer fluid running down the hood when using the windshield washers? It seems to spray a small amount on the hood initially. But seems to continue to seep out of the nozzle on the hood for a while after use as well? Not a big issue, but the blue fluid really shows on the white paint.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    no elantra available in AWD, eh?

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • bob5ebob5e Posts: 4
    Suzuki is now offering a $4k rebate on Aerio's through 6/30. How does an Aerio GS w/AWD, ABS, and Auto sound for $13,795? Has anyone found a better price in the West?
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    You may also want to post (copy/paste) your question in our Aerio SX discussion. Good luck.

    Revka
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  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,669
    that must make it the cheapest AWD vehicle available new right now, bar none!

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    Suzuki's website only shows a 2k rebate on the Aerio. Is the extra 2k a special rebate offered only by your dealer? I sure hope so for the sake of other Aerio owners out there. 4k rebates will kill the already pitiful resale value of this car!
  • csandstecsandste Posts: 1,866
    Wonder if that large a rebate signifies something?

    The 5 door Aerio is nitchy enough to survive. The four door is strange enough so that my guess is that the two Daewoo transplants-- which IMHO are more mainstream and attractive-- might knock the Aerio out of the box.

    I don't follow Suzuki forums closely so this might not be a unique insight. For all I know, theres plenty of discussion on this very subject elsewhere.

    My dealer is a combination Hyundai, Nissan, VW, Suzuki Isuzu dealer. They sell in that order with the last two being real nitch players. The 5 door Aerio is almost a cross-over vehicle, something that ties back to the SUV's. The sedan doesn't have that slot however-- two mainstream sedans will be enough for Suzuki.
  • bob5ebob5e Posts: 4
    Dealer corrected earlier quote of $13,795 to $14,295 since GS model did not have ABS. Next best quote is still $13,995 for GS, or $14,295 for the SX version. Even Fitzgerald (fitzmall.com) offers the Aerio SX AWD ABS AT model for $15,047 with no hassle price. I have two other quotes for the Aerio GS AWD ABS AT around $14.5k. So just not my area dealers that are giving much lower quotes.

    Total auto inventory is an extra 600k cars over last year - carmakers cut their throats by offering too many rebates/incentives. Supply is swamping demand especially for niche cars like the Aerio. . . . thus, dealers are getting desperate to unload 2003's = good time to buy!
  • HankrHankr Posts: 100
    was our local Suzuki dealer advertising an SX Auto AWD (no ABS) for 13,995. This was advertised in late March - early May timeframe. Add $500 for ABS and they would have been at $14.5K at that time. The deduct $300 for GS -vs- SX and they'd be at $14.2K.

    So your $13.8K quote sounds very good. There is not much margin in these.

    When I bought my Aerio, I spent $12 for Consumer Reports New Car Pricing Report on the Aerio (on the web). In late March, there was the $2K consumer rebate (actually price-credit, they don't send rebate checks). Plus there was $500 factory-to-dealer cash on Aerios... in addition to the holdback, etc.

    Your quote sounds very good, but I'd recommend spending the $12 to get the Consumer Reports data to see just what incentives are in place. CR's data was much more thorough than Edmund's or KBB, and well-worth the $12.
  • chocoxtacochocoxtaco Posts: 32
    paid $10,500 after rebates, trading in a not-too-hot Legacy LS wagon, and no money down back in March.
  • I got a '03 sx, yellow, auto with ABS for 13550 including the destination fee. no trade in. ask dealer for his bottom line in writing or have him fax it to you. I then faxed them my bid and they gladly took it. I live in michigan. feel I got a great deal with my very low financing. love the car.contrary to some, my suspension seems to tackle all the michigan potholes with great ease. generally, I feel most user reviews will try to remain objective, but even unconsciously some degree of subjectivity plays in. I have not driven 40+ cars, but was able to drive large cars, VWs, toyotas, Nissans and fords. also test drove all the competitive models (minus the kia and the pt cruiser, just not interested in them). I found the Suz to be my best bet financially and emotionally. for some reason I like its looks a lot and makes me smile everytime I walk towards it on a parking lot. I hardly ever got a craving to drive a car before this one. I actually find myself peeking out my apartment's window to see my car. Here is how I tested all the cars I considered buying.
    -before I even looked at the car in the lot, researched on web for crash test, recalls, tsb, resale, professional and user reviews. rebates and msrps.
    -found the dealers with most inventory within 30 minutes from home. made sure they were within test drive distance to a highway.
    -test drove 15 min. in highway, took random offramp, drove 5 min. in residential area, turned at the nearest large parking lot. made backup, slalom maneuvers, linear braking.
    -parked in lot, popped hood and checked all the consumables and how easy/hard it would be to service them or replace. oil filters, fuel filters, spark plugs, etc.
    -drove back to dealer using same route. on way there,tried to do at least one 0 to 60 run, one 40 to 0 brake, and three passing attempts. also tested cruise control on highway at 76mph (limit is usually 70 in michigan). checked for noise levels due to tire, road, wind and engine.

    I may sound like too much, but I am not exactly rich at all and didn't want to be stuck with a car I didn't feel I was gonna be able to bear with for at least six years. my wife was pretty much tired of it after 3 test drives. all in all I still believe I made MY right decision based on how my "objective" test and my "subjective" feel for the cars played out. of course if you get into a car thinking of trading it in every year or two then all bets are off!! I just believe in owning a car until you can't drive it safely anymore. I like my return on investment so to speak (or to put it plainly, I don't like to throw money away at a faulty car like dem focuses).
  • fndlyfmrflyrfndlyfmrflyr Posts: 668
    You did it right. It doesn't matter if one plans on trading every few years. For the amount of money one spends for a car getting one that pleases you and does what you need it to do is what counts.

    I tend to keep cars a long time, though I have traded/sold in as little as 9 months. I find that the overall cost is much less if you can keep a car for a long time. Keeping it a long time and not wanting to replace it means one better be sure they like the car a lot when it is purchased.

    I kept my 1984 Toyota Van (got it the first week they were available) for 18.5 years. Still ran fine and looked like new too. Slow, noisy, reliable, and did everything I wanted and needed for a local in town vehicle.
  • jontyreesjontyrees Posts: 159
    You know what I really like about your car purchase decision making process? Nowhere in there do you consider what your friends might think of your car, what is in your neighbours' driveways, whether there is a "prestige" factor, etc. You are your own man!
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    and congrats on your new Aerio SX!

    You may also be interested in our Suzuki Aerio SX discussion, where you can compare notes with other owners.... Happy motoring!

    Revka
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