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Corvettes and all things about them

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    Maybe the neutral safety switch?

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  • Ladies and Gents, I am in the market for my favorite Vette. I have always loved the L82 model body and I am interested in purchasing one. There are several nice, nice machines available for reasonable prices. My question is: what are the dangers, potential or otherwise, that I need to be aware of?? I thought I remember years ago hearing of "issues" with these year models. Any and all thoughts will be appreciated.

    Thanks

    Ron
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    Not too many issues except that the car itself is kind of an "issue". They are among the less popular of all Corvettes, next to early C4s I mean, and can be bought relatively cheaply. The reason for this is mainly the lack of horsepower, which of course can be corrected with a transplant. Natch the L82 option is better, but it's still nothing to write home about.

    They drive pretty well actually. The interior gets very hot due to the position and nature of the catalytic convertible, so without AC you're gonna die in there on a hot day. Some parts are hard to find, too, like heater/AC controls. Also the interior uses lots of cheesy plastic which tends to break.

    Best thing for Vettes in these years, IMO, is to inspect for collision repair. Remember, if the paint looks too GOOD, be suspicious and go over that area with your hands, looking for ridges/patches. These cars were painted by hand originally, so any car claiming to be "original" shouldn't look all that good. Also assembly work was in general quite careless, so don't worry about things not fitting. That's the way they are.

    Yes they are reasonably priced, as befits the supply and demand equation. You can find decent ones around $10K and really nice cars under $20K last time I looked. I'm sure value with increase as time goes on, but not at a rapid pace.

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  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    Although I've been interested in Corvette for many years, I'm not exactly sure about what year we are talking about here? L82 started in what, the mid-70's?

    You are looking at cars almost 40 years old. Overall, there isn't one thing that should be considered. Everything on something this old could be about to fail, has been heavily modified, has been replaced with non-stock components, etc, etc.

    From some limited reading about these older cars in a forum with many, many messages, it appears rust has become a big problem. Even frame rust is something that must be looked at. And, the 'cage' around the driver compartment that runs around the front window is now a problem for rusting out.

    I've owned a 1964, 1972, 1981, and now a 2007. Each of these cars is a large jump in overall 'quality' from the older one.

    The 'mid-years' of 1963-67 are just beautiful. By 1981 the car had become a great highway cruiser, with larger tires, low profile, and quietness. From 1971 until, what, about mid 1980's they were very underpowered.

    My 2007 is a totally different car. By the 2005 C6 model, they got it right.
  • ihave an 1982 w/ 29,680 orig miles. thats in mint shape .i have been offered 27k. i'll wait till market comes up or i get desperate.
  • no manual your correct special tranny on colllectors edtion different rear end ,l-83 cross fire engine rated at 200 horses but look at kilowatt rating. prett fast over 100 i can attest to but speedometer only goes to 85mph.so who knows. i guess you could ask the porches and beamers and gt mustangs that could not even keep up.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    I guess seeing is believing.

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  • bolivarbolivar Posts: 2,316
    oldschool, you are replying to messages over 3 1/2 years old.

    Think that guy and his B-I-L are still dealing on that 82?
  • I bought an 89 vette with a heater/ac system that wouldn't respond to any of the push button controls. Replaced the in dash heater/ac control unit. Now the unit responds to all modes but blows only cold air from the heater/defrost ducts. A/C works and unit blows cold air. Heater hoses hot to touch, coolant level full. Is there an acctuator or some other control that is keeping heat from being blown? Is it possible that the OUTSIDE of the heater core is plugged with dirt/etc? If the interior was plugged, I'd think one heater hose would be noticeably cooler than the other.

    Another interesting finding is that air blows out around the A/C coolant tubes where they enter the firewall when the heater is activated but not when in A/C mode, like air can't get through the shrouding. How is that possible?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    You might find this article of help to you:

    Blending Door Problems

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  • I have a 1984 Corvette Greenwood, and I have never found another car that looks like it. What do I have ? It was manufactured in Jan 1984.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    Here's a website:

    http://www.greenwoodcorvettes.com/AboutUs.html

    You may have an original car but you may have the new body kits that were meant to pay tribute to the original C4 street cars. So you have to do your research. Contact these people, they'll know right away what you do or do not have.

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  • Thank You, I appreciate the info. I have looked already at this site, & they don't answer questions. None of the greenwood accents look like mine.Mine are all the way around the car, front ,back, sides . No way does it match anyone's. but I do thank You.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    Well I guess you'll have to explore whether yours is all stock underneath or has those special suspension and braking features of the original Greenwood street C4s. If the car is basically stock, then it's just a modern add-on body kit which is not all that desirable actually. But an original Greenwood car might be.

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  • It says Greenwood all over it. I am new to this site, and as u probably guessed, I am female, seeking help with it.Is there a way to post a photo of it here and get some help on what I have ?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    Not sure that would help. So you have no history on the car from previous owner?

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  • I have nothing. Ownership since 2001, bought it from a man who had a z28 for sale but was driving this, we said we were interested in the corvette, he needed money and sold the vet.He moved away immediately after. I know it was originally from far south Texas.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    You probably need some corvette guru to give it a good look-over to see if it's an old Greenwood or a new one.

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  • I truly thank you for the advise. It's at the shop now to winterize it and the guy says he has seen many a corvette, but never 1 like this. He even had people stop by yesterday to take a look at it. It is pretty. Thank you for the help.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    well sure if it has the modern body panels on it, it will look quite unusual. The Greenwood kits aren't sold in large numbers. But it's the "guts" you need to look at to see if it's Real or if its Memorex.

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  • Please explain guts?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    The suspension, brakes, engine, exhaust, etc that might suggest a car originally modified by Greenwood for racing as opposed to a stock C4 that just has a body kit bolted to it.

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  • should it be an original Greenwood, would it be worth more?
    It looks and sounds great. My mechanic is checking the things you mentioned today for me. Thank You
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    Hard to say what the market is. This would require some research.

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  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,371
    I recently had the 'Service Steering Lock' message come up on my 2003 with 6-speed manual. When I took it in to the dealer (probably a mistake) they replaced the 'Theft Deterrent Steering Column Lock', including the lock assembly and handed me a bill for about $625. My question is, should I
    1. Suck it up - after all I get to drive a Corvette
    2. Find a new place to have my Corvette serviced
    3. Get a lawyer.

    Any insight or tales of experience that people might have would be welcome.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv, 2001 Jaguar XK cnv, 1985 MB 380SE (the best of the lot)

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    If it were a Ferrari it would have been $6000. And you can go to a Chevy dealer to have it fixed. While I am truly sorry you're out $600 bucks, I really don't see your complaint here. You are after all, driving a high performance automobile requiring special factory training for the technicians.

    Yep, you have to suck it up. I don't think bringing your Corvette to a Conoco station or Bill's Chevy Repair is a good idea; however, if you found an independent Corvette specialist, you could perhaps save 20% off dealer costs.

    But you know, the dealer has the experience, the parts right there, so that's worth something.

    If you get a lawyer, then it will end up costing you as much as a Ferrari repair :P

    I checked on the cost of the lock and it's about $310 bucks. So that, plus diagnosis time plus labor to R&R, plus tax--it all sounds reasonable to me.

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  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Actually you don't have to suck it up. The column lock is a recall item and
    should be covered even if the car is out of warranty. I have an '02, my records
    show that I had the column lock fixed some time in '05, however, it locked
    again in '08 and the dealer, not the one who did the original work, noted that
    I already had the work performed. I said, good, but it's locked. They went
    further and found that the lock plate was still intact, supposed to be removed by
    prior work. So they removed plate and reflashed system. I did end up paying
    for one new part in the steering column.
    But that isn't the end of the story. About 6 months later, I get service CL msg
    and car dies if you try to pull away. The steering works just fine since the plate
    is removed but can't drive the car. Finally found the about $50 column lock
    bypass aftermarket electronic module and had it installed by my local guy, not
    the dealer. BTW also a 6 sp manual.
    Randy
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    Good catch starrow but unfortunately that special extension has expired as of Feb. 2008, so I didn't mention it.

    HOWEVER, now that you brought it up, I'll post it anyway and maybe he can lever the dealer or Chevy if he wants to spend the time to do so.

    Bulletin No.: 05081

    Date: February 08, 2006

    SPECIAL POLICY
    Subject:
    05081 - SPECIAL POLICY ADJUSTMENT - ELECTRONIC COLUMN LOCK SYSTEM

    Models:
    1997-2004 CHEVROLET CORVETTE EQUIPPED WITH A MANUAL TRANSMISSION (MM6/M12)
    1997-2000 CHEVROLET CORVETTE EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - EXPORT VEHICLES ONLY
    2001-2004 CHEVROLET CORVETTE EQUIPPED WITH AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION - EUROPEAN EXPORT VEHICLES ONLY

    BEFORE PERFORMING THIS REPAIR, VERIFY THAT RECALL 04006 HAS BEEN PERFORMED ON THE VEHICLE (LABOR CODES V1144, V1145, V1153). IF THE REPAIR WAS NOT PERFORMED, PERFORM THE REPAIR IN RECALL BULLETIN 04006C, AND SUBMIT THE CLAIM USING THE APPROPRIATE RECALL LABOR CODE.

    Condition

    Some customers of 1997-2004 Chevrolet Corvettes equipped with a manual transmission (MM6/M12); 1997-2000 Chevrolet Export Corvettes equipped with an automatic transmission; and 2001-2004 Chevrolet European Export Corvettes equipped with an automatic transmission may have a condition where the column lock may fail to unlock the steering column when the vehicle is started.

    Special Policy Adjustment

    This special policy covers the condition described above until February 29, 2008, regardless of ownership. The repairs will be made at no charge to the customer.

    For vehicles covered by Vehicle Service Contracts, all eligible claims with repair orders on or after February 8, 2006, are covered by this special policy and must be submitted using the labor operation codes provided with this bulletin. Claims with repair orders prior to February 8, 2006, must be submiffed to the Service Contract provider.

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  • bhill2bhill2 Posts: 1,371
    I thank you, Shifty and Starrow. I am not seriously upset about the $600 (the reference to the lawyer was largely a joke), but given that there had been a recall on this item (the dealer said the recalled part wasn't the cause), and the Corvette is not an exotic, I wanted feedback. I will proceed to suck until it is all up, and go on enjoying my ride.

    2009 BMW 335i, 2003 Corvette cnv, 2001 Jaguar XK cnv, 1985 MB 380SE (the best of the lot)

  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 45,261
    I'm mad for days when I get a big car bill, even if it's just for service! LOL! AND the mechanic is my good friend.

    This kind of thing is genetic, WE CAN'T HELP IT. :cry:

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