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Corvettes and all things about them

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  • motorhead1motorhead1 Posts: 111
    I got off work early today and thought I would do a little car shopping. First I drove a new GTO with a 6 speed. I was impressed with the power but it doesn`t handle like my Corvette. Then I went and drove a new GT Mustang with a 5 speed and it was a nice car but still it won`t compare with my Corvette and it is not really supposed to I guess. Maybe it`s me but after having a Corvette I wonder will anything ever measure up?
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    There are probably several that measure up but you might just have to spend twice as much ;)
  • ghainesghaines Posts: 2
    I purchased my first Corvette last December. After 13 months, it now has 18,000 miles on it. I love the car, but there seems to be a different issue every time I turn around. And everytime I take it to the dealer, I get the response "Well, the car isn't meant to be driven all the time". This time my issue is with the tires. The front ones started losing pressure consistently. When I took the car in, the tires were literally falling apart. The threads were breaking through and there were chunks missing on the inside of the tires. It was definitely not normal wear. Dealer says these tires only last 20,000 miles. At $500 a tire after installation and alignment, this is a major repair every year. Anyone else have problems with their tires? I don't know that I'd recommend driving the new corvettes all the time.
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    It seems you are referencing a new car and with run flats (GY?) and I don't know why that might happen. Local weather conditions any thing unusual? My C5 runflats made it to 20k miles and the last 5k had several track days with fairly hard driving on them. I tried to not run the car as a daily driver at first but gave up when I liked driving it so much compared to alternatives. The dealer input is just a misinformed excuse as many drive these as daily drivers and that is the way Chevy sells them.

    Question for the dealer service, are any of their techs, Corvette Certified, not many are and they don't have specific training on the Vette systems. Our local guy just recently left the dealer and they didn't have anyone as a backup.
    Questions for owner, what car and tire set up? What location for weather and how precise about setting cold temps for the tires, and how high the pressure when run long distance?

    Then again, I have two sets of wheels and tires, one for the road and the other for track days. My track day tires some times get to be several months old before replacement. :)

    Randy
  • ruking1ruking1 Posts: 14,487
    Sorry to hear of your tribulations with your Corvette!

    In regards to the tires, I have never been a fan of the so called "run flats". However my Z06 came without run flats and just a flat fixer in a bottle and air compressor. I also realize this can give some folks a fright about flats on the road. So in that sense I really have nothing to compare it with.

    Sometimes, Corvettes do have issues with alignment. I took mine to a well known local specialty shop for a more "touring" application alignment(less neg camber). My first set of GY Eagle F1 SC went 56,000 miles with app 3 to 3.5/32 left all around. I switched to Toyo Proxes T1S for the balance of wet weather performance. (both non runflats)

    Sounds to me like going to a non run flat might be a better way to go if you "bad experiences": with run flats continue.
  • glhendr1glhendr1 Posts: 33
    I've had my 05 C6 since Aug of last year and have been experiencing squeaking in the brakes. I finally took it to the dealer the other day only to be told they were aware of the noise and considered normal; no adjustment was going to be made and no replacement of brake pad. Has anyone else heard of this? Am I going to have to live with this noise? Doesn't make sense to me.
  • ghainesghaines Posts: 2
    Squeaky brakes were my first warranty issue. I couldn't see how a new corvettes should squeak unbelievably at stop lights. I even got looks. I ended up getting the dealer to fix the issue by putting silicone on the back of the brake pads. This did the trick. I do get a squeak every once in a while. That just tells me I got some dirt on the pads. A good spray off at the car wash takes care of it.
  • jmessjmess Posts: 677
    If you have the Z51 package GM issued a service bulletin for the brake pads due to squeaking/noise. The fix is to replace the pads with a revised compound that reduces the problem. This is a no charge fix.

    I have the F55 and have had zero problems with brake noise. I have done a few lapping session at the local race track also.
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/News/articleId=109876

    Since the numbers are about the same as the Z06, why spend
    the extra $30k, then again getting a new Z06 might be part
    of the issue.
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/AutoshowArticles/articleId=109497

    This corrects some earlier promo material from Ferrari that said their Mag fluid shocks were a first. And oh by the way, the Active Handling system in the Vette has had three modes since at least 2000. On has ESC and Traction Control while off is both systems, but in between there is Comp Mode that turns off TC and let's AH allow more slip angle in hard cornering.

    Randy
  • vinnynyvinnyny Posts: 780
    I've got an 05 Z51 with brakes that squeal like a pig. Does anyone know the service bulletin number that addresses this issue? My dealer can't seem to find it. Thanks.
  • vinnynyvinnyny Posts: 780
    My dealer just called me with the service bulletin number: document ID# 1793579. Here's the good part: it tells the dealer NOT TO REPLACE THE PADS because it doesn't solve the problem anyway. But don't worry, GM is working on a fix. In the interim, it's just too bad that your $61k car sounds like a ten-year old Hyundai!
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Just a C5 driver but you may want to do more research. I went to a Corvette specific board and reviewed the C6 tech and got no issues with Z51 brakes. This was hot about 6 months ago and your dealer may not be plugged into what was done. Just a possiblity.
  • vettevervettever Posts: 20
    I'm into my 2nd C5, the first a 99 black hardtop flooded in hurricane Wilma and replaced with an 02 black ZO6. I am in heaven when I'm in this car and the power is insane! I'm 58 and from the muscle car years. A 1963 Mopar Sport Fury Convert, 330 factory HP, ram exhaust & intake with dual quads, 411 rear and Altas Buchron cheater slicks to help keep it moving. This car was VERY FAST but my ZO6 is much, much faster! The only mod to the Vette is Borla Cat Backs with them two fat nasty looking pipes. (not for the couple extra HP but the wild growl) At first I didn't really like the C6 but it has grown on me. I'm not too sure I would go all the extra bucks for the ZO6 because it's real hard to keep my 405 HP from losing traction. (Kumho Extasa tires) Well let me be honest, if I could afford a new Zo6 I would be driving it now! Can't wait to see the C-7 Corvette!!!
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    I agree about wanting to see the C7 but for me it's just economics. When it comes out the C6 will be a deal for about a 6 month window. The wife's '04 Z51 Coupe was ordered as she wanted it right at the end of C5 production and ended up at $11.5k off for just under $40k. As long as my '02 holds up the C6 is just not going to get me to make the change.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    I've had 2 C4's and just picked up a used C5, a 99 coupe w/ 20k.
    I'm not that fond of the C5 shape, I think the C4 was a better looking car. The C5 is alot easier to drive and live with. i like the style of the C6 better and will be looking for a used one in a couple of years.
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Actually you may have a better deal than mine. I've considered used Vettes, had a '95 with 18k miles I got in '03 and unloaded for what I paid 10k miles later in '04. The only thing better about ordering is that you get exactly what you want instead of having to search for it or more probably getting something close. The number of Vettes in our local club that are pampered and never driven hard is simply astounding to me. My '02 will, on the other hand, not go for top dollar when I have to move it.
  • volvomaxvolvomax Posts: 5,274
    I found mine by accident.
    A local guy was selling it on ebay.
    He had everything on this car plus forged wheels, magnaflow exhaust and a cold air intake.
  • Its been a while since I lasted posted to Edmunds. To preface, I will be buying my first C6 Vette very soon... but I thought it would be perfect timing given some of the comments here about Vette problems etc. to share with some of you my Lexus problems (past and present), my current driving comparisons and my ultimate conclusion of owning a Vette.

    Before I completely decided I was going to buy a Vette this year, I came to that conclusion through a series of unfortunate events.

    To begin with, I have owned 2 Lexus vehicles in my lifetime. The first was a 2002 ES300. 1st year redesign. It was quiet, but that's about it. Not fun to drive to say the least. I bought it thinking it was going to be ultra-reliable. Boy was I wrong. Had it in for various issues, but the biggy, a very serious problem with the transmission which to this day, I don't think they have fixed in their models. The problem being a hesitation in the shifting patterns, which in worst cases, caused me to lose acceleration through stop lights. Not the place where you want to lose acceleration! I took it in 4 times to 2 different dealerships and followed the lemon route. Case closed.

    While I owned the ES300, I thought, there's this nice looking LX470 cert used, 2000 with only 19K miles. A steal? Well, my vehicle has been to the dealership I can't count how many times. Its there right now btw. Problems with brakes squealing, steering, paint (entire top 3/4 had to be re painted due to clouding issue from Manufacture's defect). The service advisors always play dumb, but nice and friendly, shake your hand and send you off. Only for you to come back another day so you can shake their hand and you can take it you know where. Case open.

    So in my quest for a totally different vehicle, one more driveable and fun, I test drove the Corvette. WOW!!! What a pleasure. The acceleration, the braking, I just couldn't imagine the Vette drove this nice! The mag suspension made the car's suspension feel like a Lexus, but not so cushy. Just right. The interior, just right. Compared to Lexus, Lexus looks cheap. I'm sick of the shiny nasty wood crud and their plastic gadgetry. The Vette was just as quiet, except for the sweet, slight burl of the engine that could be heard with the exit of the tailpipes in the back...nice Best part I was totally impressed with, how comfortable it was to drive, it felt very drivable after just a few minutes test drive. I almost forgot I was in a sports car, until I reved the engine. The Vette's interior, I thought, was just right and much to my liking. The ergonomica was perfect, placed everything within reach that was essential for driving and pleasure. The seats sucked me in and kept me there.

    After I hopped out of the Vette, I continued to test drive the Mercedes C55 AMG, the BMW M3, and the Lexus IS350. No Audi S4, some of you might say? Well, 2 German cars in one day was enough for me.

    The C55 AMG was middle of the road for me. It drove with power, but not enough. It breaks well. The interior is good. Just not enough styling to justify 60K. Besides, Mercedes stinks these days. I test drove a CLK as well, different day. Both salesmen were aweful, didn't know a thing about the vehicles, and I almost made one of them puke in the C55 AMG. Seriously, they were both strange dudes.

    The M3 was a nice drive, but too bumpy for me. SMG trans is crap. I'd rather have a stick shift. Nice acceleration, more for hardcore racers who like firm seats and bouncing a lot. Styling is old, next platform comes in late 07 for 08 model.

    The IS350 was well, a Lexus. I hate to admit it, but I was actually considering this car. Until I racked up the price with options. That's Vette land It dawned on me and the more the salesman and I discussed how great the service was, the more I wanted to wake up out of my nightmare for the past 3 years. I felt like asking him, have you ever been serviced at Lexus? Well, it doesn't feel very good. Please see above.

    So the conclusion, Corvette. I'm going to have fun, so much fun. Thank goodness for American sports car, the Corvette! I suggest everyone go through the experiences I have had the last 3 years. Squealing Vette brakes will be a blessing if that's all you have go wrong. My Lexus brakes squealed like a pig farm, not kidding...So enjoy your Vett's and stop squealing! You have the best drive around and I'm going to be joining you soon!
  • starrow68starrow68 Posts: 1,142
    Hope you enjoy it as much after you get it. Six speed or auto? Coupe or Vert? If you read back some you will know that the deals on the internet are much better than most local dealers but not the solution for everyone. I got my C5 in 2001 and just rolled over 50K miles, got a 6/60 extended warranty and last week it more than paid for itself with $2700 worth of ABS systems parts, something to consider with new tech heavy cars where a chip can go bad even if you don't mechanically wear some thing out.
    Then the question comes about learning to really drive something with 400hp, driving schools are good, especially Spring Mountain outside Las Vegas. Every day I get to drive the Vette is a good day with lots of smiles! :)
    Randy
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