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  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,343
    That picture looks an awful lot like the Greenhaven/Pocket area of Sacramento.

    Am I right?
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Sorry, I'm not too familiar with Sacramento. The town is called Fair Oaks.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    Flightnurse made a comment to me a few weeks back about me getting to see what my 328xi's AWD system can do in the rain. Now I've always really questioned AWD's effectiveness in the rain, thinking of it as more of a useful tool for snow traction. Unless BMW's XDrive is so transparent that I don't know how well it is working. Kind of similar to my Prelude's ATTS. I really didn;t know how good it was until I drove my TSX around some of the same tight corners and the front tires were fighting the stability control whereas my Prelude pulled around the corner.

    One of the benefits to having to be at work at 7:30 AM (6 days a week) is there aren't too many cars on the road when I leave my house at 6:30 AM. It started pouring early this AM (my 3 year old woke up with a 102 fever and a stomach virus well before 5), so the roads were saturated with lots of nice puddles in addition to being slick. I put my 328xi through the paces on my way to I 95. Only a few times when I had the transmission in DS was I able to break traction only to have the stability control tuck me back into place. So I don't know how the AWD performed. Maybe some of you with the 335xi or sween's G35X can comment how the AWD works in the rain.

    I can tell you that driving down I 95 in the torrential rain, my 328xi was sure footed and rock solid. I looked down at my speedo and saw I was going 80 without breaking a sweat.

    In the dry, gorgeous, spring weather we've been having, I've been able to hit the magical triple digit mark during passing maneuvers. Unless you are a torque junkie (not that there's anything wrong with that), my 230 hp is just perfect for public road consumption.

    5 1/2 weeks and over 2300 miles. As you can tell, I'm one happy BMW driver!

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,176
    edited May 2012
    My car in the rain- when new great- new brakes, tires and new wipers - rock solid as NYC said of his new 3. Now the 07 has 30k miles- brakes are 8k old, original tires and newer cheepo wipers - not great- I'm very careful in the rain when around others so no real troubles but i know the limits of what i can and should do. Raining this am, 6 am - private road, I gave the g a little toss into a turn with some gas, dsc off I was able to wiggle the back loose. - pretty cool but again something I would not do around other cars.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    You made an excellent point sween. Tires! I forgot to mention tires! The single most important thing when it comes to traction. My Continental RFTs only have 2300 miles on them.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,176
    Rft - would like to know how they grip at 30k
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    Stick around (no pun intended) & you'll find out in about 17 months.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,982
    What kind of mileage are you getting on the 328 so far? Just curious.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (mine)

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    I'm getting between 20 & 21.5 right now. My engine is still green & I seriously have a hard time keeping it under 80 mph on the highway. This week I'm really trying to take it easy. Set the cruise between 60 & 65 when I can, shut the car off at long lights (says to do this in the manual). I'll report back in a few days.

    Some of the 335 guys have been reporting better mileage figures because even though their cars are more powerful, that power moves the weight of the car easier.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,536
    I've gotten as low as 23 (well, OK, was much lower than that during my track days) and as high as 26 in the 135 thus far.

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,317
    Q....not tracking my car, but my MPG has settled in the same range, although I'm closer to 22MPG in town. Probably a low of 20 MPG ate one point, but that included nothing but driving in congested city traffic.

    Got 30 MPG once on all interstate over Easter. But, that's with cruise on 70 and no traffic.

    Usually, I'm right around 26-27 MPG with interstate driving. Who needs a 4 cyl?
  • billyperksiibillyperksii Posts: 198
    People who cannot afford a six.
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,982
    what's going on with this string of replied to names? Annoying!

    anyway, we stopped at the BMW dealer saturday (next building over to the Acura dealer where we drove the RDX), and there was a nice 128 on the apron out front. Medium blue (deep sea blue? something like that) that I had never seen before, with tan interior. Must have been relatively base, since the sticker was only 37k!

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (mine)

  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    "Usually, I'm right around 26-27 MPG with interstate driving. Who needs a 4 cyl? "

    People who want to get 36-37 mpg. ;)
  • rayainswrayainsw Posts: 2,551
    Wow [ list of 10 respondees ? ]
    My I6 turbo is averaging 23.5.
    - Ray
    NOT driving for maxumim MPG.....
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    Deep Sea Blue is absolutely GORGEOUS!

    I averaged 21.3 mpg on my last fill up.

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,317
    edited May 2012
    One other thing, the MPG computer in the BMW is really accurate. It's usually within + or - .1 MPG of my manual calculations.

    ray.....I never drive as if I'm trying to maximize MPG.

    Given the MPG I'm getting plus the muscle car acceleration my 3 offers, I'm real happy.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    I've actually noticed that too. The MPG on the trip computer is very accurate. On my former TSX, the trip computer was always more generous than my actual mileage (same with my wife's Pilot).

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    Is on everybody's mind. I'm sure most of you guys are the car gurus of your circle of family, friends, co-workers... like I am. We all drive performance oriented vehicles. People used to say: "Wow, that thing must be a rocket" or "How's it drive?" Now people are so obsessed with gas prices, the first words out of their mouth are: "Is it good on gas?" or "What kind of gas mileage do you get?"

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,176
    Agree - $4 bux a gallon will do that
  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,176
    335 m pack for 2011 was that bundled with the performance pack? If not can you add the PP to existing cars thru the dealer / if so cost?
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,317
    M package is seperate from performance package. One does not include the other. Performance Package is only available via the dealer. But, I've never asked any independent shop if they could do it.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,317
    I have 9K miles on my 335i xDrive. Through one Fall, one Winter, and now one Spring, I really haven't noticed xDrive intervene once. And, I'm constantly flinging my car around in the wet, and none too slow either.

    I consider that a good thing that I don't notice it.

    I think I only had SH AWD in my previous TL intervene twice. Both times it was wet. Both times I was pushing the limits.

    While I'm still not a fan of RFTs, the current ones (Continental) are worlds better than the ones on the '06 330i (Bridgestone).
  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,982
    I think in my Volvo, the performance pack upgrade would involve switching to a bigger squirrel for the treadmill.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (mine)

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,536
    Or trading for the T5 you should have bought in the first place. :P

    '13 Stang GT; '15 Fit; '98 Volvo S70; '14 Town&Country

  • stickguystickguy Posts: 14,982
    No turbos for the kid. she'll be enough of a lead foot most likely when she is soloing (they all are!). So better off in a car where if you want speed, you need to work for it!

    now, when I replace it with something for myself? different story!

    the volvo though is not a speed demon, but it does cruise along just fine.

    2013 Acura RDX (wife's) and 2007 Volvo S40 (mine)

  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,648
    my 2011 I'm getting 22MPG combined, my 05 I'm getting 22 combined also. Now on the freeway, my 05 gets 29. Now remember that the ZPH cars have a close ratio 6 spd tranny and lower read gears. I usually set the cruise at about 75. I haven't taken the 2011 on a freeway trip yet, heck I only have 4K miles on it too.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,648
    Ok so last weekend we test drove two 335d's, both 2011, one was new, one was a CPO, the CPO had 7K miles on it. The CPO was fully loaded, the new one mildly optioned.

    First off, WOW, it has been a while since I have had 400+ Lbs of torque. I can see having to replace the rear tires often on it. The 335d drives like a typical 3 series, sure footed, solid feel, vault like. The CPO had the sport package, so the rear tires are wider then the fronts. Over all very impressive, both cars drive well, of course the non sport packaged car road a little smoother, but nothing to deter us from not getting it.

    Over all, very impressive, the MPG is better then my 2011, not too sure if the added price is worth the mpg difference.

    Now on a side note, when we came back from the last test drive there was a couple looking at my 2011 (thinking it was for sale.) It seems the guy been looking for a 328i with the M Sport Package with a manuel and he can't find one.

    Now if BMW would bring the 3.5l d in the 5 series, then we would have been sold on the car.
  • sweendogysweendogy Left lanePosts: 1,176
    328 m pack with the manual- very select car in sedan form.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,776
    Well, after driving 340.6 miles using just over 15.5 gallons of Premium I averaged just over 21.9 mpg. This is using the cruise a lot to keep the car at 60 - 65 (feels like its crawling), and shutting the car off at long lights.

    Tomorrow AM it will be back to driving the BMW like I only have it for another 28 1/2 months:)

    2001 Prelude Type SH, 2011 Pilot EX-L 4WD, 2015 Subaru Legacy 2.5i Premium

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