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  • kominskykominsky Posts: 850
    HAHAHA! That Oscar thing took me a little while. I kept thinking of the one who lives in the trash can on Sesame Street, but couldn't come up with a Felix... :confuse:
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    I am very anal about keeping the interior clean, not so much about the exterior. Usually wash it every week or 2 and wax every 6 months.

    I am with kominsky, maintanence is more high up in my priority list than keeping the exterior clean.
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    I'm gone for a few hours, come back, and this has taken a whole new turn.
    I love this forum! LOL

    I drive the wife completely nuts when it comes to how meticulous I am.
    I won't allow her to eat in my car which she hates.
    The little perforated holes in her 06 MDX seats are filled with those microscopic beads which fall off of her english muffin sandwiches. That crap is never happening in my car.

    I wash and Z-6 at least once per week but it's usually at least 2 or more.
    My interior is absolutely spotless and I even have a rule where my daughter takes her shoes off before entering.
    I've even left the car in the garage and taken a ride into work with the crazy wife, just because it was raining and didn't want to dirty the car before getting to enjoy a sunny drive first.
    I know... I have issues.

    Worst was when I went into the garage to get something, and 2 1/2 hours later, the wife came looking for me.
    It was almost midnight and she found me covered in sweat (garage was hot) and in the middle of my second coat of wax.

    She feels like I'm having an affair and love the car more than her.
    I won't agree with her, but I don't argue the fact either.
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,258
    Worst was when I went into the garage to get something, and 2 1/2 hours later, the wife came looking for me.

    I've done that! Can anyone advise where I can get help?? :blush:
  • cdnpinheadcdnpinhead Forest Lakes, AZPosts: 3,207
    Having returned recently from a 7500 mile round-trip drive to Alaska in a 7 YO Lincoln LS with 120K miles on it, my put is (and always has been) that I prefer to use my car, as opposed to looking at it. Ideally, both are pleasant, but there's no contest if it comes to a choice. My car is a tool, not an end in itself. The drive is the deal, NOT the car.

    I change my fluids & filters at or below the recommended intervals & need the tires & shocks to be up to snuff. Beyond that, I'm pretty sloppy.

    I'd much rather have a conversation with someone up in Tok (AK) driving a bugged-up moderately-dented 3-series than the guy in the local supermarket parking lot who takes up three parking spaces & drives 8K a year, if that.

    Different strokes. . .
  • esfoadesfoad Posts: 210
    My interior is absolutely spotless and I even have a rule where my daughter takes her shoes off before entering.

    Just make sure it's fun for your daughter. They have a way of remembering bad times ;) after they grow up!
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    Worst was when I went into the garage to get something, and 2 1/2 hours later, the wife came looking for me.

    As long as you're still wearing clothes it's not that bad.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,487
    Are not mutually exclusive! One can do all three and enjoy each of them.

    I'm a fool for a pretty face. Cars and women, which is why I have no money and will retire in my 90s... I'm just happier road tripping on my new tires and freshly changed oil when the gloss of my Abyss Blue TL is blinding other drivers! :shades:

    "My TL finish is so bright I gotta wear shades!" Which is also why, "I wear my sunglasses at night!"

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • patpat Posts: 10,421
    That Oscar thing took me a little while.

    Heh, laurasdada is dating himself. And me as well, because I didn't think twice about he said, I just laughed out loud! :P
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    Just make sure it's fun for your daughter. They have a way of remembering bad times after they grow up!

    My daughter loves taking rides in my car.
    I should put some leather conditioner on the bottom of her socks.
    She loves putting her feet on the seat... hence the no shoe rule... so I could get some cleaning done at the same time. :P
  • goodegggoodegg Posts: 905
    I'm in your camp. You're supposed to wash your car? Why? Granted I garage my TL so that helps, but I just don't see the need to fuss with the cleanliness of a car when there are a hundred other things on my agenda to deal with that are either making me money, saving me time, or making life a little easier etc.

    I'd rather attend to the house and not a depreciating appliance.

    I don't think a cleaner car goes any faster or stops any better. Oil changes, tire rotated, filters changed, and when they hit about 50K miles they're gone. I'm a Soup Nazi with cars. You're in, then you're out. Next!

    Oh yea - replace the body side moldings too before selling/trading it.
  • laurasdadalaurasdada Posts: 2,487
    Luckily for Pete Townsend and I, his "hope" regarding getting old has yet to materialize. Ich bin eine Oldster!

    Oscar, Oscar, Oscar... Oscar lived in the town I grew up in. Always a nice sight to see him walking on Main St. Not sure what he drove though. Neil Sedaka drove a gold Rolls convertible. And oft wore a terry (velour?) warm up suit that matched. I could drop more names, but as goodegg (el segundo Oscar)noted, that wouldn't be making me money, saving me time, or making life a little easier etc. 'Cuz, "Out here in the field, I fight for my meal! I get my back into my Zaino!"

    '13 Jaguar XF, '11 BMW 535xi, '02 Lexus RX300

  • Thanks to all that post. I really milked my new car search this time around and lurking on these boards has been fun. Was replacing my 2002 Acura TL which had been a trusty and loyal steed. Drove all the cars discussed here and then some. Chicago, so it had to be front or all wheel drive and I'm sick of front wheel drive, so that ruled out Acura again. Would have gotten the G35, but I just couldn't pull the trigger on the one car on the market that doesn't make even the tiniest effort towards green efficiency. Everything about that car is engineered to go fast and nothing else. Other than that, I think it's the best ellps out there. Everything else was too small (I tend to put a coupla shorties in the back seat about twice a week) except maybe the A4, which I liked but it's dated and I didn't want to wait for the new one so that left me one option; a pre-owned luxury performace sedan. Got a great deal on an 2006 Audi A6, low miles, loaded s-line for $38.5k. I'm so happy with it that I'm retiring from car shopping for a while. Good luck and have fun.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    "Chicago, so it had to be front or all wheel drive..."

    A bizarre and controversial statement to say the very least. I lived in Chicago (both downtown and in the 'burbs) for thirteen years and can say with absolute confidence that there is absolutely no reason on earth why someone would need FWD or AWD to deal with the weather. Said another way, any decent RWD car on the roads these days will negotiate Chicago weather these days as well as (if not better) than your two self described options.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • esfoadesfoad Posts: 210
    "My daughter loves taking rides in my car.
    I should put some leather conditioner on the bottom of her socks.
    She loves putting her feet on the seat... hence the no shoe rule... so I could get some cleaning done at the same time."

    LOL!
  • bruceomegabruceomega Posts: 250
    Shipo,

    Regarding
    "any decent RWD car on the roads these days will negotiate Chicago weather these days as well as (if not better) than your two self described options"

    where the two options are FWD and AWD. Disregarding FWD, did you mean to say for a RWD with winter tires as compared to AWD with all-season tires?

    If you had identical tires on both the RWD and AWD, I would think RWD would not be as good for traction in snow or ice, although that doesn't mean RWD won't be able to do the job.

    Thanks
    Bruce
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Basically I meant that any late model RWD car (i.e. equipped with traction control) that isn't shod with summer rubber should be more than capable of handling Chicagoland roads in winter weather. The fact is that Chicago and its surrounding areas are faaa-lat, and don't need the extra traction afforded by AWD or even winter tires for that matter. That said, if I was to move back to Chicago and have a RWD car, I'd most certainly buy a set of winter rubber for it.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • bruceomegabruceomega Posts: 250
    Shipo,

    Thanks for the explanation. I was misreading your post.

    Bruce
  • scottm123scottm123 Posts: 1,501
    I agree.
    I have family in Chicago and just got back from a road trip to go visit them.
    Your roads are all flat and straight, and the road names all make sense.
    All are numbered to let you know how far out your are (from Michigan Ave?).
    If I lived in Chicago, it'd be RWD for me as well.

    Living where I do in MA, I have a super steep driveway, live on top of Mt Everest, and drive 50 miles though horrible back roads which are plowed when the town feels like it.
    I also have to deal with the dreaded Mass Pike, which in itself is not a bad road, but it seems to attract the most stupid of drivers.
    For that reason, I opted for AWD.
    I see RWD cars getting stuck at red lights and stuff all the time.

    And yes, I also see 4WD SUVs in the woods and off the roads.
    People have to realize that it doesn't make you invincible and learn how to drive. :confuse:
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,258
    I agree you need to use care with winter driving. So, with RWD, your chances are much better with real good snow tires.

    In the mountains, AWD would just be a notch up on capability.
    In Chicago, some of the snow events would likely favor AWD but I agree, it is not a have to have. In Buffalo, all bets are off! Nothing can help you in 2-3 feet of snow!

    Regards,
    OW
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