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  • pv2pv2 Posts: 37
    Re the Bugatti, at top speed (253mph) you'd cover 50 miles in 12 minutes. Don't know where you can find a stretch that long anywhere (legal or not). :(
  • blueguydotcomblueguydotcom Posts: 6,257
    I-5 north of the grapevine there's nothing for hundreds of miles. I-15 running out to vegas has long - 50+ mile stretches with nothing. I've done hyper-legal speeds on both.
  • riorebelriorebel Posts: 20
    All that being said, how likely is it that you could go 253mph for 50 miles without being stopped?

    If you can do that, even on I-15, you need to go immediately to the casino and start betting like hell, because you've got some serious mojo going. ;)
  • circlewcirclew Posts: 8,261
    Wait a minute...who would be able to stop you in a Bugati V anyway?

    Oh, I get it! Just wait until the gas runs out and you eventually will get see it on the side of the road. As I remember, there is no gas for huge stretches between after the CA line and Vegas.

    Regars,
    OW
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,946
    They can only go 50 miles... Just catch up at the next gas station.. :D

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • adamr001adamr001 Posts: 95
    In the Bugatti, at top speed and assuming a near fuel tank you've only got ~10 minutes of fuel. On top of that, your tires are only good for about ~15 minutes. Sourced from Top Gear's commentary on the car making it's legendary "proof" run at the Volkswagen test track.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7DnPaPBuec
  • beradberad Posts: 20
    If you are between an A3 and an IS 250 and scratching your head then look at consumer reports.... Only 53% of owners would buy the A3 again - this is the bottom of the barrel. The IS 250 RWD is 78% -- this is near the very top of the list. All in all the odds are that you will be happier with the IS 250.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    All in all the odds are that you will be happier with the IS 250.

    That is if he enjoys a mind numbing boring drive. :P
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    That is if he enjoys a mind numbing boring drive.

    Not if he gets a X/sports package with manual tranny. ;)
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    I have to disagree, even with a manual transmission, the IS250 is exceedingly boring to drive, it's just too, ummm, errr, Lexus like. :P

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    Okay... but we are not talking about IS250 vs 328i here...

    If the X/Sports package is not good enought then get those aftermarket spring sets like Eibach or Tein. Those will transform the car like one couldn't imagine.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Who said anything about a 328i? To be quite honest, the A3, even in FWD guise, is even more involving to drive than the 328i, which is of course leaps and bounds beyond the IS250. If you don't believe me, you might want to go drive one some time, that little A3 is an absolute blast to drive.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    I did, and they are no "leaps and bounds" beyond the IS250. Especially for the FWD A3.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    Well, to each his own. The IS was just way too numb, isolated and soft for my tastes, that said, I suppose that is the exact thing some folks like. I don't understand it, but there it is. :confuse:

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • louisweilouiswei Posts: 3,717
    Soft? An X/sports package IS250 is softer than the "leaps and bounds" FWD A3?

    Okay...

    Oh by the way, the last FWD A4 that I had for 2 weeks was pretty isolated and soft as well, not to mention the craptaculour turbo lag for the 2.0 turbo 4.

    I guess it's time to agree to disagree.

    ;)
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    A stock FWD A4 isn't even remotely the same Audi as the one we're discussing here, different chassis, different drivetrain, different just about everything except the name of the manufacturer. Maybe I'm missing something here but I thought that we were discussing the IS250 and the A3. Yes, no?

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
  • Riorebel, why did you choose the TL over the G35?

    Also why did anyone else on this board choose the TL over the G35 or the Lexus IS 250?

    Besides the look what caught your eye and/or made the decision for you?
  • plektoplekto Posts: 3,707
    So why not also look at the RX-8?

    Oh, right. Let me guess. You want the car to be sporty and not a soulless jellybean like the IS250 AND get 30mpg. Good luck with that one.

    Honestly, though, the RX-8 will blow the doors off of the IS250, A4, or base 3 series.(obviously if you could afford a M3, you would have bought one ;) )
  • pv2pv2 Posts: 37
    I agree with blueguy. While CR isn't my first stop for auto information (I read the major auto mags for that) but I do take a look at CR's customer reactions and reliability data. My car ownership experiences over the past 30+ years track very well against their ratings. They're not enthusiasts but they have a great database.
  • shiposhipo Posts: 9,152
    In the beginning this thread was started by someone who was looking for opinions on the IS250 and the A3, and that was what we discussed. Then the 328i was added, then the A4 2.0T FWD, now the RX-8. Hmmm, as much as I like and admire the RX-8, it isn't a car that fits my needs nor is it really germain to this conversation.

    Best Regards,
    Shipo
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