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Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

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  • ivan_99ivan_99 Posts: 1,662
    there's only room for 8 vehicles in the categorization/description field here

    Do you mean the "What is this discussion about?" at the top of the section?

    I count 11 items.

    Maybe you could choose Lexus IS as opposed to the IS250 and IS350 separately.

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  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,810
    edited December 2010
    My bad - it's 9. The other two aren't vehicles, but other categories. I can only have 9 vehicles, and I can't just choose "IS" under Lexus - I can only be specific.

    I did update Infiniti to be G37 rather than G35.

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,141
    With Nav, too. Nice find.

    Trade-in is right near $21k, however, so you'd be looking at more like $23k-$24k to buy it.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,141
    Also... click on the link for their inventory and come across
    this little gem for stickguy

    Although difference betwee price and fair deal is about $3k right now.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,393
    That's a really nice car for $23K though. That 6speed 3er wagon is nice too.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,613
    Yeah.. the wagon is a little pricy.... It's a true stripper model, too... manual seats...

    About the only thing it has going for it is the stick... stickguy likes those light interiors, though....

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  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,141
    and it has a moonroof, which is on his "must have" list.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,613
    I think we do a better job picking out a car for him, than for ourselves..

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,393
    Much as it did that winter night/morning in Buffalo during the late fall of 1996. I was at a cliub with some friends in Buffalo (I went to college about 2 1/2 hours away in Ithaca). My friend who I was visiting (and at the club with) was in a shall we say intoxicated state and getting very friendly with a 6' tall blonde. At about 3:30 AM I decided I had had enough and wanted to go back to his place to crash.

    "Chris, give me your keys. I'll meet you back at your place later. Call me if you need a lift."

    With the flick of his wrist, he tossed me the keys to his 1995 E36 BMW 325is. Red/Black leather. 5 speed manual transmission. HK, Sunroof, & most importantly Sport Package + additional factory lowering.

    Now up until this point, I was a novice at driving stick and had never had any real seat time in a BMW. I thought they were for "show offs." My entire point of view changed by the time I took off from the 1st traffic light. I had never driven a car that I just felt so perfect in. I drove the car around the streets of Buffalo for the next 2 1/2 hours. By the end of the night, I was steering around right turns with the throttle & rotating around corners perfectly. I've wanted a BMW ever since.

    Fast forward to December 2, 2010. The numbers don't mean a whole helluva lot. BMW gets good money for their cars and they are worth every penny.

    I've got my Mom's '08 E90 BMW 328xiA (almost 61,000 miles) until Saturday. Even saddled with all wheel drive & automatic transmission, it is still a true driver's car. You all know how much I love my '01 Prelude Type SH (almost 132,000 miles). My Mom's BMW is one of the few cars I've driven that almost make my Prelude feel "loose."

    The drive from my parents house in Rockland County, NY to my house in Stamford, CT changed my mind and reinvigorated my passion for BMWs. I'd take a 328i with its 230 horsepower, no NAV, leatherette, sports package, & 6 speed stick. It is just an amazing car to drive. I would even consider a CPO or private party used (as long as the person has service records & the car passes a PPI) and I've only owned new cars my entire driving life since I got my license.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,141
    I'd take a 328i with its 230 horsepower, no NAV, leatherette, sports package, & 6 speed stick.

    That's exactly what I'd want, too. Sport and stick. Nothing else needed. Well.... OK, I'd want the USB port, too.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Thanks for a great story NYC! Very nice memories.

    For me, when I was in the Army, I was passing through Dallas to spend a few days with my uncle (yes, the one with a thing for Acuras). Back in the 80's and 90's, he was strictly a BMW guy (320i, 325e, then 325i).

    We went on a liquor run to OK and he let me drive his then new E30. Up until that point, all I had owned/driven was my dad's Accord, and my Alfa Romeo Spider and CRX Si.

    I had a similar epiphany - how could such a simple car (my uncle is minimalist - his E30 had NO options) be so much better than anything I had ever driven. Of course, I didn't have the scratch to buy a BMW so I owned many more imitators before I finally got the real thing.

    They really are that good. Sublime.
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,737
    The drive from my parents house in Rockland County, NY to my house in Stamford, CT changed my mind and reinvigorated my passion for BMWs. I'd take a 328i with its 230 horsepower, no NAV, leatherette, sports package, & 6 speed stick. It is just an amazing car to drive. I would even consider a CPO or private party used (as long as the person has service records & the car passes a PPI) and I've only owned new cars my entire driving life since I got my license.

    Funny, for me the situation was in 1998. I was looking for a premium smaller sedan. I drove a brand new (was that the E36?) 1999 BMW 323, but the dealer only had an automatic. It seemed decent but I wasn't wowed. Then I drove a 1998 Audi A4, 6 cyl, manual. There was no comparison. The Audi had a much nicer interior, the clutch and stick were like butter, and the steering and suspension were taut and precise. I bought it.
  • That Volvo S60 looks nice on paper, but I think in one review I read that it is more of an A4/Lexus Competitor than G37/3 Series.

    Have driven the new S60 here in UK, (admittedly only the D3 and D5 Geartronics), at a Volvo track day I can say that it is at least a match for any 3-series up to/incl the 330D. One of the pro-drivers rated them equal in the dry but gave the S60 the edge in the wet. New S60 really is a vastly different car to the outgoing model and made my '06 S60 D5 Geartronic seem positively wooden by comparison. Mag reviews are fine for rough comparison...............you need to drive 'em to really find out. Before I drove the S60 I was thinking; "Hmm so it's a re-skin". After 4 hours of all kinds of silliness I was smitten. It's a new car from the wheels up.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,393
    If I were to order one, it would have a 6-speed stick, Sport Pkg, Heated Seats, iPod/USB, Sirius, Xenon, Leatherette, Sunroof, & Metallic Paint.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,141
    What annoys me about their sales pitch on the new S60, though, is calling it the "sportiest volvo ever."

    Here in the US, at least, the T6 only comes with an automatic. The S60R had the same peak engine outputs, was a lighter car, and was available with a stick. Gotta tip yer hat to that as being more sporty, if not even the sportiest.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • qbrozenqbrozen Posts: 17,141
    ordering? yeah, I'd probably add bun warmers, Sirius, and Xenons, as well. Moonroof is not on my list. I'd rather do without to save weight. And, for some reason, I hate paying for paint.

    '13 Stang GT; '86 Benz 300E; '98 Volvo S70; '12 Leaf; '14 Town&Country

  • roadburnerroadburner Posts: 6,271
    At the age of 14 I coerced my dad into test driving a 1972 Bavaria. The salesman drove it first and demonstrated how well it cruised at 120 mph. I was hooked, but I didn't end up with my own BMW until 1983 when I bought a 1973 Bavaria- which my girlfriend at the time(and now my wife of almost 25 years) had found for me. She had wisely determined that the way to my heart led through the garage...

    2009 328i / 2004 X3 2.5/ 1995 318ti Club Sport/ 1975 2002A/ 2007 Mazdaspeed 3/ 1999 Wrangler/ 1996 Speed Triple Challenge Cup Replica

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,393
    I don't like the idea of paying for paint either. Does it really cost an extra $550 to paint a car a different color. The E90 looks terrific in so many colors. The Vermillion Red looks amazing.

    I know sunroofs add weight, but I like 'em.

    Funny thing about paying for paint. My Mom's lease is up on her 328xi at the end of this month. She ordered a Porsche Cayenne V6. Called me up after she visited the dealer & gushed about the truck. After she told me what options she specd out, I asked her what color. She told me White. This took me by surprise as she's never come close to wanting a white car. Now the white happens to be a fantastic color for the Cayenne. I said: White? She told me she refuses to pay $800 for a specific color & she really loves the white.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,393
    I had a college friend who had a 1984 E30 BMW 325e with a 5 speed stick. The car was 10 years old and had well over 100K miles on the odometer. The speedometer didn't work. One day we're cruising the back roads of Ithaca, NY & I asked him how he knew how fast he was going. He tells me it clicks on every once in a while. We went over a bump in the road, the car got some air & when it landed, the speedo clicked on & read 105 mph. The car was amazingly solid & stable at that speed.

    BMWs are special cars no doubt.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

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