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Entry Level Luxury Performance Sedans

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  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,419
    Hyundai for doing what Lexus did way back in the day. I can see how the Genesis works, although I don't see any in my neck of the woods because they DO NOT offer AWD (AWD is expected here in the northeast). I'm not sure who the target market for the Eqqus is. My parents are 66 & 64. They both drive cars that cost what an Eqqus costs (2011 Cayenne V6 & 2011 Tahoe LTZ). I can tell you that there's no way either of them is setting foot in a Hyundai dealership. They also tend to like the firm ride of a German car.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    Once again this is why we have choices, for me I don't care about the dealership experience, as long as I can drop off my car, and get out in a reasonable amount of time I'm happy. Now I like the idea on not setting foot in a dealership as all to buy and get my car service sounds great. I think the buying process is horrible, but BMW, MB, Audi, Lexus, Acrua, Infiniti have it right, have a nice clean dealership with a very relax atmosphere it the correct way to go.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    I replaced my M today...

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    I want to thank the gentleman pictured with me who took such good care of my car for the past 17 years.

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    And yes, the E30 will be parked next to it in about 2 weeks! Talk about clouds with silver linings... :)
  • sweendogysweendogy Posts: 1,108
    edited April 2012
    Nice guy -Love your purple tie- killing it . Not that I care But becareful people on this chat hate when you stray off topic, Porsches and jeep references not allowed.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,419
    Gorgeous! Gorgeous! Gorgeous! What year is that? 1995? Mazes-Tov & may you have many, many, years of fantastic driving experiences with it! I love that car!

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    Thanks NYC!

    1995 C4. One owner local car.

    Funny, it just occurred to me - I got both the 911 and the 318ic for about the cost of a base 328i... :blush:
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,419
    Those '95s are what made me fall in love with the 911. I didn't particularly care for the styling before that. I thought they looked like a squashed bug. I was a 944/928/968 fan. Ever since I first laid eyes on a '95 911, I immediately added it to my list of dream cars! How many miles are on your C4? How'd you find it? Why was this guy selling it?

    I'm starting to dip into my BMW's performance potential. First and foremost I'm so impressed with how well the chassis is balanced. It pours itself around curves. The entire car is very fluid.

    I used to say that I'd only want a RWD 3 series with a Sport Pkg & frowned upon BMW for only offering a cosmetic sport package with AWD. Not anymore. I'm so happy with how well my 328xi drives. I don't feel the need for anything sharper & a bit lighter (Sport Pkg & RWD). I don't feel the need or want for anymore power.

    When I drive a car, I always try to pick a theme song for it. Something that suits the car perfectly. My Prelude's theme is "Sunshine of Your Love" by Cream.

    For my 328xi, since I'm leasing it and have to give it back in 2 1/2 years, I picked "Stay With Me" by Faces. "Yeah I'll pay your cab fare home, you can even use my best cologne, just don't be here in the morning when I wake up."

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,101
    edited April 2012
    Kirstie....thanks, you more eloquently explained what my cumbersome post attempted to say.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,101
    Fed....BIG CONGRATS! That is sweet!
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,101
    Cdn....you and I view CR the sams way. Their ratings simply have no statistical validity.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    NYC, growing up in SoCal Porsche's were everywhere, there was a mix of 911s and the 924 (later model)944,986 and the beloved 928. I had always wanted a 928GTS. This all changed in 2000 when I was looking for one, then decided to learn about the car and the maintenance issues with the car. I drove a couple (all with manual transmission.) After learning about the maintenance issues and cost, I switched to the 2000 Vette I bought. Even though my vette had quality issues, it was a very entertaining car to drive... I have a long list of secret desire cars, and the 928 GTS is still on that list.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,101
    kd....seems all the lux dealers around me will do drop off and pick up for service....including Cadillac. Personally, I'd rather drop off my own car. I do appreciate their free loaner service, though.

    I'd bet if I wanted my BMW or Acura sales person to bring a new car to my home for me to test drive, they'd do it.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 7,101
    Flightnurse....nice wish list.

    Mine mirrors yours, but I'd add a Ford GT, a 12 cyl BMW 8 series and an Alpina, a'56 Chrysler New Yorker (my favorite '50s era American style), any Ferrari, a Jag XKE V12.

    Drove a linggenfelter (sp?) corvette a friend was trying to sell me a couple of years ago. That was a wickec piece.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,419
    I've read those 928s can be a nightmare as far as maintenance & repairs go. You can't just take the car to any old Porsche mechanic, it has to go to a 928 speciali$t mechanic. Very cool looking cars though.

    As crude as they are, I've always wanted a Corvette. My Dad has a '66 427 Roadster rotting in his garage, so Vette ownership is in my DNA;)

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    Graphic If you have a great working relationship with a dealership, there is no reason why they wouldn't bring a car to you to look at if you are busy. I have a buddy who has leased 13 BMW from the same dealer in Atlanta. They will pick up his car when it needs service for him and drop off the loaner to him. He has bought a couple of cars this way too, so it does happen. He knows what he wants in them, tells the same salesman he has used for the past 13 cars, and it is delivered. However, some people like to test drive the cars before buying them.
  • flightnurseflightnurse 35K feetPosts: 1,590
    NYC I like your list, however the 8 Series (E31) V12 falls into the same category as the 928... maintenance nightmare. I really like the Chrysler New Yorkers of the 50's, I had a 57' Lincoln Mark II, I wish I had it now very classy car.

    lingenfelter builds some insane car's which I have to wonder are they really streetable cars. I was also impressed with my vette, I was getting a steady 28 on the highway with it, and I was doing 75.

    Regarding the Alpina, BMW sells a B7, insane car for the price tag, I like that they build it on the standard wheelbase 7 Series, but I would like a B5.
  • sweendogysweendogy Posts: 1,108
    Thought your view was to point to the Toyota recall.
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    edited April 2012
    Thanks again everyone! I don't want to derail this thread so I'll answer NYC's questions and get back on topic...

    NYC - it has 80,000 miles. Bought new by a local dentist in 1995 for $70,000 and maintained superbly it's entire life. He just bought a new Audi S5 - 4 cars and a 3 car garage meant one had to go. He's getting older and wasn't driving the Porsche much anymore so he decided to sell it.

    I found the car hiding in a local Craigslist listing. Just 2 pictures and a fair asking price. I called him and after he told me about the car, I knew it was the one. When I took delivery, we posed for pictures together and he told me that if anything didn't meet my satisfaction, he'd buy it back from me. He even called me the next day to see how I liked it and to tell me he's glad that I bought it and that it went to a good home.

    It's a beauty. I drove it to Bainbridge Island today with the kids and it is TIGHT. There is absolutley no slack in the steering or driveline, the engine and transmission are super smooth, the body and suspension are tight - it really looks and drives like a new car.
  • kyfdxkyfdx Posts: 27,704
    Geez.... my mother was right... I should have stayed in college and got a good job... ;)

    Just for the record, you are killing me.... LOL

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  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,737
    Cdn....you and I view CR the sams way. Their ratings simply have no statistical validity.

    From a purely statistical basis, I agree with this statement.

    Still, CR survey is self selected from subscribers, right? But can anybody tell me why self selection would skew, to any great degree, the results of whether GM or BMW or Ford or etc. would show better/worse reliability than other makes? In other words, why WOULD self selected subscribers cause certain makes to fare better or worse?

    I suspect that the CR results are pretty close to valid in spite of the methodological flaws. Just saying they're not statistically valid doesn't say why the results would balance out substantially differently than otherwise.
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