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  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,282
    ATS....neither of which would be on my short list if I were plunking down my own money. Strong rumors around that the ATS is falling short of GM's sales expectations and they're throwing trunk money at it.

    that's the problem with American cars, they are always overpriced 10-30%. Someone said earlier Honda and Toyota overprice their cars 10-20%; that statement is crazy and nuts. If that is true, then let me revise my American car statement to overpriced 20-50%.

    BMW also overprices things about 10-20%.

    The horrific resale value of American metal is proof that the cars are overpriced to begin with, and then you can add the fact they always issue huge rebates.
  • larrys8larrys8 Posts: 31
    So a bit of a different topic, but given the discussion of many types of cars. This may sound like a strange question, but living in the northeast, I much prefer AWD over RWD. Has anyone ever heard if Infiniti will build a AWD G convertible? Id much prefer a hard top over a soft top. The Volve C-70 doesn't do much for me and I dont want the soft top of the A5 for year round driving.

    I am on my second G sedan and couldnt be happier, but in a couple of years I wont have to worry about having a car seat in the back and would love to go back to a two door. I can't imagine driving a soft top year round. Any thoughts, rumors, etc. of what Infiniti may do would be great. Or suggest other cars.
  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 6,894
    Larry...no 'vert AWD Infinitis. Matter of fact, only convertible 4WD I can think of would be in the Jeep showroom.
  • I thought Lexus (SC) and BMW made hard tops convertible?
  • igozoomzoomigozoomzoom Waleska, GeorgiaPosts: 790
    There's always the (freakish) Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet! Who wouldn't want a 4-door midsize CUV converted into 2-door mutant convertible sorta thing??? And they only cost about $45k with the Nav package..

    They've been on the market for several years and already sold tens, maybe even dozens of them!!! =)
  • dan12dan12 Posts: 114
    BMW makes a hard top convertible with 4 seats (328i & 335i) but they're not AWD. I don't know of any AWD convertibles other than the Audi A5. Those A5's are very, very nice looking despite my bias towards BMW. I don't know how the soft top would work out in the winter though.
  • dan12dan12 Posts: 114
    "There's always the (freakish) Nissan Murano CrossCabriolet! "

    Funny. Going down the requirements checklist it seems to have it all. CUV, AWD, convertible, 4 doors, gas mileage.... isn't that the dream car? Err, I guess not.
  • kyfdx@Edmundskyfdx@Edmunds Posts: 25,881
    You can get an Audi vert in Quattro now, I think..

    Moderator - Prices Paid, Lease Questions, SUVs

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 6,894
    edited May 2013
    You guys are right....Audi A5 Quattro convertible. Would be great. How could I forget it? :surprise:
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,106
    4WD Convertible? The Jeep gets my vote (& maybe the vote that counts).

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • scwmcanscwmcan Niagara, CanadaPosts: 388
    Engine yes, transmission no, though the may be a few common parts in the transmission ( a transverse FWD tranny just can't be exactly the same as a longitudinally mounted RWD tranny). Besides that very little in common, the Xts is built on the epsilon ii platform that it shares ( though the xts's may be an updated epsilon II platform) with the Buick Lacrosse, the CTS is built on ( shoot forget what the name of the current CTS platform is) a platform not shared with any other GM product ( though it used to share it with the SRX ans STS), the upcoming CTS will be built on an extended and ( I beileve widened) ATS platform, so still nothing besides engine and maybe some programming in common so no I don't think the XTS and CTS are anywhere near the same car in the way the Avalon and ES are.
  • tlongtlong CaliforniaPosts: 4,700
    ATS....neither of which would be on my short list if I were plunking down my own money. Strong rumors around that the ATS is falling short of GM's sales expectations and they're throwing trunk money at it.

    Saw my first ATS a few days ago. Overall the car looks pretty nice, but wow - those little windows are like slits. Sort of like they Camaro-ized the CTS. I know we have higher side impact standards and such, but this driving in a deep bathtub craze really needs to stop, or we will just eliminate the windows and go to CRT displays inside. :(
  • fedlawmanfedlawman Posts: 3,118
    +1

    Big peeve of mine to see how high the sills are on new cars. And speaking of convertibles, who wants a convertible where only the tips of your ears are above the doors?

    I just have to laugh when I see someone driving with the top down these days, windows up and ball cap on. Might as well save the grief and buy a coupe.

    A real convertible actually blows your hair around and you can rest your arm comfortably on door sill :)
  • billyperksiibillyperksii Posts: 198
    Graph- I might be drifting towards your end-Audi.
    I am looking at the A6 3.0 supercharger, Premium Plus with 19" Sport.
    Glacier White with the Nogout Leather.
    I have 15 months of payments on the TL to outright own the car.
    Here is the obstacle, my wife, she wants us to keep the TL, only 24k miles with 4 years of ownership.
    I am sitting on the fence with that new car itch.
  • xrunner2xrunner2 Posts: 3,062
    A real convertible actually blows your hair around and you can rest your arm comfortably on door sill

    With a pack of Camels or Marlboros tucked under a tee shirt sleeve.
  • nyccarguynyccarguy Stamford, CTPosts: 7,106
    I can understand top down, windows up, cap on. My pet peeve is top up, windows up, AC cranking on a gorgeous day.

    2001 Honda Prelude Type SH/ 2011 BMW 328xi / 2011 Honda Pilot EX-L w/ Navigation

  • graphicguygraphicguy SW OhioPosts: 6,894
    billy...have you driven the A6 yet? I'll be keeping the S4 for a couple more years. But, they normally give me an A6 as a loander when I'm in for service. The 3.0 supercharged motor is a real gem. I'd give up a little handling, and the A6 is certainly heavier. But, I'd certainly choose it over a 5 series. It's less expensive than a 5, too..equipped like for like.

    That said, I got some seat time in my sister's new '13 TL Advance. I forgot how good those cars are, too.

    My independent mechanic told me a while ago...."if you're only going to keep a car 3-4 years, one of the German marques will do. If you're going to keep a car past 3-4 years, get a Japanese marque (he specifically likes Honda products). If you want a car that's cheap to maintain, get an American marque."

    As you know, I'll pull the trigger on a new car on a whim. That said, in this part of the market, there are almost no bad cars. They all have their own personalities, and they all bring something just a little different to the party. But, they all perform, handle, ride, better than 98% of the market.

    As much ballyhooing GM has trumpeted with the ATS, my encounters with it (albeit brief) wouldn't have me writing a check for one. It's too corse, it needs some serious tech debugging. And, if you can't at least line up body parts correctly in this part of the market, don't even bother coming to market.

    nyc...fed...I'm with you guys on a convertible. If you don't have the sun on your head, and the wind blowing your hair every which way, what's the point of a convertible?
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,600
    Thanks for answering for me.

    IMHO, when vehicles share "DNA", it usually means platforms.
  • andres3andres3 CAPosts: 5,282
    or we will just eliminate the windows and go to CRT displays inside.

    Speaking of CRT displays, I believe back up camera's are less than useless and worthless in my view. People have been driving nearly a Century without issue and without back up camera's (at least the competent drivers).

    I'd find a DASH CAM 1,000X times more useful and worthwhile than a back-up cam. There's so many bad driver's out there, the dash camera could be used on occasion in court (if needed), or to mail video to someone's insurance company.

    Instead of red light camera enforcement, how about citizens' arrest tickets for left lane camping using dash cam video as evidence. I'll even show up in court to testify against a LLC that the video was taken by me, so that it isn't complete BS hearsay unacceptable evidence like is currently accepted by most lower corrupted courts for red light camera tickets. I think it would be worth my time to get these camping people prosecuted.

    Even better, let's pass a law that 30% of the proceeds of the revenue generated go to the video taker to make this even more worthwhile; I'm sure that's a better deal for the city than Red-flex gives them!!!!

    Pretty soon left lane campers would be eradicated and traffic would flow smoothly 90% of the time; even at rush hour except in DC and LA.
  • flightnurseflightnurse at 35K feetPosts: 1,523
    Big peeve of mine to see how high the sills are on new cars. And speaking of convertibles, who wants a convertible where only the tips of your ears are above the doors?

    Briefly when I was 16, I had a bugeye sprite, now talk about wind in your face and hair blown around. I ended up selling it and bought a Datsun Roadster had that until my senior year in HS.
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