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  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,710
    I think it's due to the fact that the mpg read-out changes every 3 mpg, not 1 mpg. That's got to have a negative impact on accuracy.

    Bob
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You mean 0.3, right?
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,710
    Yeah, 0.3.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Like that ad, and love the predecessor even more.
  • rshollandrsholland Posts: 19,710
    Besides being a great TV spot, the actors in the Baby Driver commercial were actual father and daughter(s).

    Bob
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,930
    edited April 2013
    I never ever check gas mileage it is an exercise in frustration. There are far too many variables for a start, IE: did you fill the tank with the same amount of gas presuming you are checking from a full tank every time.

    Temperature, obviously the colder it is makes a difference, as does actual driving between town and highway, in town you could have more stopping and starting with longer idling times, versus previous trips, or you could do a lot of highway at a steady speed, versus some highway trips at varying speeds.

    All these factors effect gas mileage, unless I get the impression that gas is going quicker than water off a ducks back I don't bother. What's the point, you own the car, you have to fill it from time to time, so what does it matter if it is getting 25MPG versus 28MPG.

    Cheers Pat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    For me it's 30 more miles between fill ups. The Miata's tank is small.
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,930
    edited April 2013
    Yeah but the point I was trying to make is whether it gets a 25MPg or 28MPG is really moot, you have to fill the car to drive it, why do some people drive themselves nuts constantly checking gas mileage.

    Some guys I know have a log of every gallon they have put in the tank from day one, then if the car is down one or two MPG from the fill before, they are in a tizzy trying to figure out whats wrong. My Motto is just enjoy the car already or take the bus.

    The figures I quoted were arbitrary for illustration BTW.

    Cheers Pat.

    .
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,650
    I log everything. I am an analyst, and always will be, so doing this is like any other hobby out there. Of course, I don't fuss about variation, but if there's a trend, I certainly work to hunt it down.

    I think the fuel mileage nuts are the ones who care enough to jump to conclusions and complain, but don't care enough to record and analyze. One tank means nothing - it's all about the trends.
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,478
    ... they are in a tizzy trying to figure out whats wrong.

    Kinda like the people that don't consider a wash and wax complete until they've dusted their spark plugs. ;)
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,749
    edited March 2010
    New option for '14 Foresters are mirror-based exterior lights. Like the Range Rover Evoque, Subaru puts LEDs with tiny logos (subaru logo, of course) in outside mirrors. When doors are opened/closed, the LED's shine back towards the door handles and ground. :D

    Given '14 XT's euro style ride and general feel, Subaru may have studied Range Rover closely before redesigning the Forester. In any case they managed to avoid the Rover quirks (no lifting of wheels in turns, etc.).
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    What's wrong with that? So long as you don't forget to wax your wheels first. :D
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Does the light shine in the shape of the logo? That would be cool, like the Bat-signal.
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,478
    Obviously you need to wax the front and back side of the wheels.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Don't forget the anti-seize on the threads. Because you do remove the wheels, right? ;)

    I had a slow leak on the Miata, and that wheel is cleaner than any other because I took it off, and cleaned it. I should clean the others but I never seem to have time any more.

    Kids' sports rule my life - basketball alone takes up Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday (twice) and tournaments vary but can fall on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

    Wish us luck, my daughter's first tournament with her travel team starts tomorrow at 9am.
  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,735
    The other day I popped the engine cover off on the Sienna and cleaned the deck and heads area! But damn, never thought about pulling the plugs for a dusting. Now I've got something new to obsess about.

    Hey Juice, if you use anti-seize on those lug nuts they might just change themselves one of these days!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I was joking, but I imagine you're right.
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,930
    HAR HAR HAR, That's only for members in the OCD club :P

    Cheers Pat.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,749
    A reviewer called romanticcarguy (with web site and videos) tested both a recent Ford Escape and the '14 Forester XT on the same snowy Colorado mountain road. Both vehicles got stuck in exactly the same place, their tires simply sliding off the road and (almost) taking the vehicles with them. :surprise:

    I never used the stock XT tires (Bridgestone Duelers) on snow, replacing them with Nokians before winter hit. Looks like that will have to be done again.

    A pity Subaru can't fit their vehicles with better stock tires. :sick:
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I saw another video where the Forester went the farthest, but you're right, the OE tires leave much to be desired.

    They're not even inexpensive, either!
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Link: http://youtu.be/z_gseK09_pU

    Why do they wait until they are stuck, THEN engage x-mode?

    Before that, watch how the tires fail to shed snow as they drive up, even before they get stuck.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    And here's the Escape one:

    http://youtu.be/lmnpsHA4rww

    Tires seem a little better, if you watch closely they shed snow whenever they spin at all.

    They almost ended up in that creek!

    Is it me or did they turn back in the Escape, but kept going in the Forester?
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,650
    That's funny! I could have probably towed them through that piddly crap with my '10, without X-drive or the CVT tranny that saved their incompetent butts.

    But, their point was made: Even with Subaru's all-wheel drive and ground clearance, get proper snow tires! ;)
    2010 Subaru Forester, 2011 Ford Fiesta, 1969 Chevrolet C20 Pickup, 1969 Ford Econoline 100, 1976 Ford F250 Pickup, 1974 Ford Pinto Wagon
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Airing down the tires may have helped a little bit, too.

    But why does an AWD crossover need 18" rims? Think of all the unsprung mass.

    Not to mention the cost of the tires. The 17"s are expensive enough!
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 685
    But why does an AWD crossover need 18" rims? Think of all the unsprung mass.

    Not to mention the cost of the tires. The 17"s are expensive enough!


    Agreed! The new 2.0XT is going in the wrong direction with its "improvements". That includes everything that makes the price equal to or more than an Outback.

    It is time again for an Impreza GT turbo automatic, perhaps with the 2.0 tuned to actually run on 87 octane.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    edited April 2013
    it is time again for an Impreza GT turbo automatic, perhaps with the 2.0 tuned to actually run on 87

    I'm ready for an even smaller Subie engine/hybrid combo. I like the VW arrangement in their new Jetta hybrid with the 1.4 liter turbo, hybrid, 170 hp, AND 48/42 mpg. That's impressive engineering.

    John
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I would worry about the sheer complexity. You'd need a PhD to work on that engine.
  • once_for_allonce_for_all Posts: 1,640
    edited April 2013
    1.4 liters and, say, 150-160 brake hp from the engine side, not much different than the subie 2.0 liter boxer turbo doing 250 hp.

    I do seem to recall that the VW engine might be DI, so from that sense, potentially complicated. That's the way this world is going in order to squeeze more from less.

    John
  • KCRamKCRam Mt. Arlington NJPosts: 3,516
    Dad had a 1980 Buick Century sedan (the first year they went to the "baby Seville" roofline), and it rode on P185/75R14 tires. Its relative 2013 equivalent, the Regal, has P235/50R17 footwear as standard, with 18, 19, and 20-inch options all the way to P255/35R20.

    35-series tires on a midsize sedan? That's a 3.5 inch side height around a 20-inch wheel. Yeah, that'll feel good on rough pavement.

    kcram - Pickups/Wagons/Vans+Minivans Host
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