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  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,739
    For those who switch to the 16" wheels for winter: Is it easy to reprogram the odometer, etc.?

    AFAIK, you can't reprogram the odometer/speedometer. You just have to know what your actual speed is vs the indicated speed.
  • sgloonsgloon Posts: 303
    Yikes, that would be a worry. Do you know if the dealer can reprogram the odometer/speedometer, mpg, etc?
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,739
    edited April 2013
    Yikes, that would be a worry. Do you know if the dealer can reprogram the odometer/speedometer, mpg, etc?

    The dealership probably can but if you change to a smaller diameter for snow tires, the difference would be a small percentage and not worth worrying about.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,391
    Unless you did so intentionally, you wouldn't necessarily lose any ride height or change the speedometer's calibration appreciably. When going to 16" rims, you simply get tires that have a 1/2" taller sidewall.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Yep, a Minus One, as the tire industry calls it.

    I had 205/70R15 snows on my '98. 16" rims came with 60 series tires, so diameter was about the same.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think with Toyota's part ownership they're not taking any chances. Floor mats! funny...
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,739
    But sgloon feels the car is too tall for entry/exit, reaching the roof and that the wheel wells pack up with snow due to the large diameter so minus one sizing (with the same overall diameter) would still create all the issues he has.

    IMHO, going to a smaller size to reduce height and diameter really won't make much of a difference.
  • xwesxxwesx Fairbanks, AlaskaPosts: 8,391
    edited April 2013
    Right, but dropping to a smaller tire diameter.... enough to make an appreciable effect on the issues you cited, would have a huge impact on the car's calibration. With everything being electronic these days, I would think that stuff could be adjusted using a factory "scan tool," but others have said they are non-adjustable?

    Bigger wheels do allow for bigger brakes, but since we can still put 16" wheels on these cars, what is the justification for 18? Kinda like the fins on Cadillacs about half a century ago..... :(

    FWIW, I use the door sills as steps when securing overhead loads. The rear bumper shell also has a nice step for this purpose, assuming the bumper protector is installed. Otherwise, it can be slippery when wet!
  • volkovvolkov Posts: 1,302
    Smaller rims but larger aspect = same overall diameter but cushier ride.
  • grahampetersgrahampeters AustraliaPosts: 1,583

    Having lusted after the Subaru BRZ and Toyota 86 since their introduction, I sat in one today. The shock was the discovery that the seats are too low and too tight for me.

    I will just have to make do with my eight year old Toyota Kluger which seems to roll on cheaply from year to year. Now has 210,000km (about 130,000 miles) and is costing very little to run with today's service on AUD300. I have promised myself that I will replace it when it costs AUD3,000 in a month.


  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    mike once famously said he wanted "paisan sized" seats in a vehicle. ;)
  • saedavesaedave Chicago, ILPosts: 683
    The shock was the discovery that the seats are too low and too tight for me.

    I also sat in one recently: seats too low, too tight, too hard. It makes my Forester feel like a limo!

    My local dealer for quite some time has had no takers for two of them.
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,714
    Seats have little bolstering and seem pretty hard, could be tilted towards door as my shoulders keep hitting right side of seat.

    Navigation display would benefit enormously from being OLED (LCD washes out in sun). Steering wheel controls for nav/entertainment are handy, while voice commands are sluggish and error prone.

    Subaru dealers apparently have no parts lists for the '14's yet so if something breaks, they can't order anything. Service training for these is just starting. Apparently this is becoming a major trend with new model releases (GM does same thing, etc.). :sick:

    Consumers Union's hinting '14 Forester ride's deteriorated. Not sure what they mean. The XT's definitely firmer than before: you'll feel undulations and road surface. But actual bumps or potholes seem well damped. The '09 XT I had would kick up, crash and rattle its rear end over speed bumps, while the '14 simply absorbs most of bump without fuss.

    XT's engine's burning no oil whatsoever :) .

    Floor mats have showed no sign of curling, but they'll be replaced once the dealer gets the recall parts.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It handles better and corners flatter, so there had to be some trade off.

    CR complained about the tech, too.

    I think Subaru needs a full reboot. Just partner with Toyota and use Entune. That system uses your smart phone, so no monthly fees. The option is affordable, too.
  • dcm61dcm61 Posts: 1,457
    Thanks for the frequent updates, but ... you should be posting them in the 2014 Forester topic.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Yeah it's nice on my BMW and Jag it goes in .1 mile increments. Always bothered me that the subie ones were in .3 increments.

    -mike paisan
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I actually told the CEO of SOA that a few years before the 2010 Legacy came out. He told me through his translator, that the next legacy would be "Paisan" sized!

    He was right, they just failed to put the proper HP in the H6 model and the wrong size brakes... :(

    -mike paisan
  • kurtamaxxxguykurtamaxxxguy Posts: 1,714
    "Thanks for the frequent updates, but ... you should be posting them in the 2014 Forester topic. "

    Didn't know that topic existed...done. Thanks.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It also waits a mile before displaying any average at all.

    Else you could zero the odometer, coast down hill, and get 99mpg. :D
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