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Mercedes 300D Suggestions

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    If I recall, I think the entire instrument panel just pries out along the rubber seal. I can't recall how good the access is when you do that. The little bulbs are twisties and they often corrode at the contacts and this is why they stop working. Very typical problem. You can buy all this stuff at the Benz dealer, they stock it.

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  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    Why are the hazards such a big deal for you if I may ask?

    Anyway, do your directionals all work?

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  • 300d300d Posts: 6
    um i realy don't care about the hazards. how ever driving with no turn signals it is pretty hazardous. so to answer you question the turn signals do not work. when the ocation pops up were the hazards work the lights will blink at least in the back.
    I think i have a blown bulb in the front. but i haven't changed it because im buying knew fender and i want to do every thing at once.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    Well all the bulbs have to be good for things to work properly. You might loosen the bottom part of the steering post so you can access the directional signal switch and perhaps that black coupler is loose or you'll see some disconnect in there. You can also take a simple test light and see if there is current to the various sockets in the front and rear bulbs. Also a bad ground at the bulb sockets will cause this, so get in there and clean and jiggle things around.

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  • Thanks for your messages. I think the problem started after driving on a very bad and dusty road. That road really was completly covered with powder, at least 1 foot of dust... I noticed that the problem started after that day, may it be the cause? How can a road full of dust damage the transmission? Thanks again.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    I don't think the road conditions are related.

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  • goldcargoldcar Posts: 23
    I have talked to that seller before. They regularly purchase old Mercedes diesels, convert them to vegetable oil then sell them with the fuel station. The car is probably already sold at or very near the price advertised. On the plus side, they do get every car well looked over before the purchase it for the conversion, as they don't want to get stuck with a lemon after investing all the time and money into it.

    I ended up buying a cheaper and unconverted '82 300D after I realized my lifestyle just would support another hobby like collecting vegetable oil. Now, if someone were selling vegetable oil ready to pump into my tank for $1 per gallon, I would be all for it.

    If you are not planning to "do the vegetable oil thing", then skip that car and get one unconverted.
  • Hi, I am new to the forum. I really enjoy reading the postings as I have managed to apply a lot of the suggestions posted here to keep my 1983 300 D in shape. I bought the car 5 years ago due to nostalgia as it reminded me my childhood trips in taxis with my father in Europe. Then I also realized that is a marvel of engineering.

    I am having a similar problem with my turn signals. They do not work all the time. They only way to get them back is if I turn the hazard switch on and of a 2-3 times. Any suggestions?

    Regards

    Thank you
  • goldcargoldcar Posts: 23
    I fixed the door locks on my 1983 300D a few months ago (replaced front passenger door lock actuator) and thought I had mastered the vacuum system. Hah! A couple of weeks ago the door locks stopped working again and engine shut-off took 20 seconds. I used my vacuum pump/gauge to determine the interior locking system still worked.

    In the engine compartment I found the lines running into the interior (air conditioning and door locks). If I applied vacuum pressure to it I could operate the door locks fine and it held a vacuum. The line to it came out of what I guess to be a one-way valve (white).

    I then connected my gauge on that line going back into the main system (leaving the interior sub-system disconnected). Then I disconnected the second line going to the central vacuum connector and plugged it with a gold tee. I re-started the car and pressure shot up to 20-22. I turned the key off, but the car kept running of course as the shut-off valve was part of the second sub-system I disconnected. After pressing the STOP button (darn useful thing), the pressure dropped to 0 over the course of 30 seconds or so. Meanwhile, there was a ticking sound while the pressure dropped.

    The hoses looked fine, but there could certainly be a problem with them that I don't see/hear. My main problem is that I don't know how this system should work. I am thinking that maybe it is ok that the pressure drops in the main system, but then there should be a one-way lock sealing off the door lock system. Is there one?

    But then, the pressure should be a bit higher or constant to get the fuel shut-off valve to work faster.

    Is this a problem with the vacuum pump problem? The brakes feel fine.

    HELP! Advice most appreciated. Is this something that is covered in the $100 factory manuals? (If so, I am happy to get them.)

    Thanks
  • heypeteheypete Posts: 2
    Hmm. All right.

    I actually did a bit more looking around, and I found a 1992 300D turbodiesel in surprisingly good condition. See the pictures here. No more pictures, as the camera battery was low.

    Body was in great condition other than a few mild scuffs on the back bumper (as noted in the last photo). Engine started promptly and ran smoothly. Transmission shifted smoothly between gears at both city and highway speeds. Suspension felt really good.

    Interior is in excellent condition, with no visible wear on anything except a small crack on the wood veneer next to the ignition (looks like someone missed the keyhole and poked the wood with the tip of the key). Doesn't look like anyone ever sat in the back seats. No wear on the leather at all, it seems. Very minor wear on the rubber on the pedals, suggesting a minimal amount of stop-and-go driving.

    Car has 198k miles, and the seller reports that it's nearly all highway miles. He's the second owner, and has kept the car garaged all of the time it's not moving -- he bought it with the intention of shipping it to Uruguay where he spends several months out of the year, but the taxes and fees for that were too much, so he kept it here and rarely drove it. He only put 3k miles on it since he bought it 4 years ago. Previous owner was a woman, and evidently drove it regularly on the freeway, but very little in the city. Maybe she was a saleswoman or something?

    Seller wants $8,500, which is about twice the Edmunds TMV. I may be willing to go a bit above the TMV if my mechanic examines it and determines it's in very good running condition and no major work will need to be done other than regular service for the indefinite future.

    I'd be trading in my two-year-old Honda Insight (2003) with 20,400 miles on it for the Benz, and would like to make sure I'd be making a good impression. One of my diesel-savvy friends says that it's not uncommon for Mercedes-Benz turbodiesels to last upwards of 400k miles with proper maintenance. The Insight is a bodywork-hog, requiring expensive bodywork even for minor things like rock impacts. Even with slightly higher maintenance and service costs for the Mercedes, I think I'd save money in the long run.

    Any advice?

    Cheers!
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    That's a lot of miles. And it is not "common" for ANY car to go 400K--that is the extreme end of the bell curve and statistically unlikely. So don't count on that any more than you should count on living to be 105----you might, but most don't :P

    I'd say the average life of a 300 series diesel is about 250,000 with good care and presuming no engine/trans replacements or major restoration (after all, you can keep any car running forever if you pay enough). If you don't think so, go to a wrecking yard and read odometers. What better way to get some good data?

    So you are buying a car in the...okay, let's be generous...last third of its life.

    What do I think it's REALLY worth? About $6,500. What is the most you should pay? If you really have to have it, and it checks out GREAT, and you haven't seen anything nicer, then maybe up to $7,500. After that, you are over the market and on your own...your call.

    Remember---whatever gets you INTO a car cheap at the time you buy will come back to haunt you if you want to unload it. So if you don't like the car in 6 months, it'll have over 200K on it which makes it a hard sell for top dollar.

    If this car had 75,000 miles it could bring $8,500 or better, say from a dealer's lot with a financing provision.

    It does look clean, though, I'll say that. I don't know about the guy's story though. you could do a CARFAX report and check his mileage claims over the last 4 years. And "highway" miles is a meaningless term in some ways. Miles are miles when it comes to market value.

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  • I just can't seem to stop this fuel leak at the main fuel filter housing on my '82 300D turbo.
    I changed the fuel filter- replaced the aftermarket with a MB from dealer.
    I put a new metal seal between housing and the bolt (that screws into the filter).
    Also, put a new rubber seal on the hollow bolt that screws into the filter (this rubber seal is in the stem of the main bolt).
    I bled the air by loosening the hollow bolt that goes out of the housing.
    (Haven't touched the bolt that comes back into the housing).
    Still have fuel leaking from under the top of the main bolt that screws into the fuel filter. after driving 3 miles.
    I don't remember seeing any leaks before I changed the fuel filter. And I can see now the difference in the diesel consumption- the gauge needle drops down faster.
    Is there anything else I should look at? It was supposed to be a simple fuel filter change!!
    Thanks for any help.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    That's weird. Maybe you can find a neophrene seal that will fit around the bolt. do you think you might have tightened down too hard?

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  • No, I don't think I tightened too hard. With the old seal, i did tighten hard, thinking that would help. When it didn't, I got a new seal and noticed it was thicker than the old one, and it's brass- so I knew it was soft; hence took extra care not to tighten too hard.
    Maybe I should run a very fine sand paper on the housing surface where the metal seal sits?
    I cannot think of anything else, and I wanted to make sure there wasn't any other "trick" associated with changing the fuel filter. Is there anything else I need to be aware of?
  • I have a 1981 300d it is not a turbo. I am having a problem with the air conditioner. What could be making the fuse for the air conditioner keep blowing. I have had to change it several times.
  • samgm2samgm2 Posts: 14
    I have a 1985 300D that maybe having problems with the climate control switch (perhaps its something else). The usually does not come on. I believed the problem was in the climate control switch and took it apart and tested all the relays by applying 12 V to the circuit board as necessary and what I could of the switches. I also cleaned the contacts. Everything seemed to be in order with a cursory check with a multimeter but still no go.

    I do get heat ( not that I want it in the summer, but only as a result of natural air flow if the vent is open). No AC, no blower, no defrost.

    Anyone have a clue what direction I can take now. The maintainance manual refers to a diagnostic tool that I don't have for trouble shooting the system.

    Sam.
  • here's a website that I found recently that should help.

    http://boostnbenz.1baddsm.com/DIY/
  • Well- this problem is now solved. The metal washer needed to seat better on the housing. I sanded the housing top lightly with very fine sand paper (waterpaper) to get rid of the little build up and a very small protrusion; reseated the washer and hollow bolt- voila! drove 50 miles without fuel leakage. I guess every small bit must fit properly!
  • jnicoljnicol Posts: 5
    I took my 82 330D in and had the transmission flushed. It was running great. Went to pick up the car and it wouldn't start. It sputtered and blew a cloud of black smoke and then just turned over and over. Brought my 300SD to it and tried jumping it. I fiddled for about an hour looking for vacuum leaks and whatever I could see. Oddly after about an hour of cranking on and off it started and ran great. I drove it home, turned it off, restarted it no problem and left it over night. The next morning the same problem.

    I changed the fuel filters, reprimed it, pulled the glow plugs and checked resistance all about 1 ohm, took the glow plug relay out of the 300SD and popped it in - still won't start. Took a rag and dipped it in gasoline and put it inside the air cleaner (outside of the filter - eventually got it going - it ran great. Next morning it won't start.

    The glow plug light comes on for about 3 seconds and goes out normally. There is no smoke at all coming out of the exhaust while it's cranking.

    I'm out of ideas. Could the transmission shop have knocked something loose that's causing this problem? Could it be a bad fuel pump, injector pump...? How can I tell? Any help or suggestions will be most welcome.
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    Oh your glow plug should stay on longer than that on a cold engine. I think you need to replace the glow plugs if in fact the engine runs great but won't start. You should replace the glow plugs every 2-3 years anyway.

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  • I had the same problem with my 83 300D. Check the black rectangle shaped box that is mounted on the drivers side from fender under the hood, should be located near the front of the fender. There is a small metal link(fuse) that is held in place by 2 screws. This is a fuse to the glow plugs. The time I had that problem, this was the solution, if it blown, you will be able to see this right away. BTW you will need to remove the cover on the box to see the fuse.

    Ken Sharpe :surprise:
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    Yeah I was wondering about that fuse link (80 amp?) but then I wasn't sure if the glow plug light would even light.

    But anyway, good idea to check that...although blowing 80 amps is a kind of scary thought...how did THAT happen?

    I have a test you might try but you have to be very careful...you can activate just ONE glow plug with a battery jumper cable and see if the engine kicks off...but you have to be very careful not to ground the battery cable to anything metal except the tip of the plug....tricky...I used to do this test by wrapping very heavy gauge wire around the glow plug and then attaching the jumper cable to that, maybe one foot out of harm's way.

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  • What kind of mileage is expected for a 300D? I am getting 25mpg on the highway with my 82 300D turbo. I was expecting around 28. Anyway to improve it?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    25 is pretty darn good, you can't do much better than that unless you want to start driving in a very silly way. Remember you have a very heavy car shaped like a brick--you can't fight aerodynamics unless you want to do something radical to the car or drive more slowly and cautiously.

    I suppose you could inflate your tires more and carry less fuel and get a 4-wheel alignment---all those things might....MIGHT...gain you 1 mpg.

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  • Just trying to squeeze every little mile- at todays gas prices!! I guess I should be happy with 25. I drive normal, and absolutely love the feel of the car.
    I did one very very stupid thing recently, though. While changing fuel filters and checking for leaks, I did not latch the hood down tight, and drove in my sub- Well, the wind opened up the hood, and one hinge got twisted a tiny weeny bit, and so now when I close the hood, there is a slight intereference on the passenger side near the windshield side.
    Would a body shop be able to set it straight?
  • Mr_ShiftrightMr_Shiftright CaliforniaPosts: 44,838
    Yeah, a body shop might be able to help you---it rather depends on what got bent and where.

    As for better MPG, you might also try synthetic oil, although I'm a bit wary recommending synthetic oil on a car that is very old.

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  • At my last oil change- about 700 miles ago- I did put Pennzoil synthetic and dumped a bottle of the Lucas cleaner in the tank. I can feel the difference- it runs much smoother and I think the diesel noise inside the car is lower. You can just get that feeling of a well oiled powerful machine purring along!
    Yesterday my driver side window stopped working, Previously, for a rear window it was the fuse- I'll check fuse again for this one also, but do the switches or motor have a tendency to go bad?
  • jnicoljnicol Posts: 5
    Thanks for the good advice, everyone. I have a followup question or two.

    1. No one commented on the glow plug resistance. Shouldn't I be able to spot a bad glow plug in this way? I'm wondering if it might be a bad wiring harness also. I'm still wondering if something may have happened at the trans shop. I checked the 80 amp fuse and it's intact.
    2. Could clogged injectors or bad fuel pump cause this problem starting, yet allow the engine to run okay once it gets going?
    3. Should I use a glow plug reamer when I change the plugs?

    Thanks all!!!
  • Hey I got a 1976 Mercedes and im trying to change alternators..But i cant get to the top nut to loosen it so i can get the belt to loosen up.. Anyone have ne suggestions on how to do that??
  • Ok i got the alternator off and it is stuck under the hood like a mouse in a trap but does anyone have ne idea how i can get it out... From what we can see is we are going to haft to take out the air compressor to be able to fit it through the top..But to get that off it is looking like we are going to haft to take almost everything off to just get it out... So if you got ne ideas on what to do or know how plz tell me...TY!!!!
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