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they were successful.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
There's a replica that fits on a Pontiac Fiero as well. You see them at auctions now and then, but I've never seen anybody buy one.
Exactly WHY you spend $35,000 to replicate a car worth $30,000 and then sell the replicar for $5,000 is somewhat beyond me right now. Maybe I missed something clever here.
This car would be perfect except for one thing....It's 1/18th scale. Seriously, if you are into miniature cars, this is the best Ferrari replica I've seen yet. It's beautifully detailed, they got the proportions exactly right and this is very close to exactly how I'd want a real Daytona. I've always preferred alloys to wires,and coupes to Spiders on these cars. The only thing I'd change is the color (I prefer Fly Yellow , Silver or Black).
It's $59.95 from Exoticar and they claim it's one of only 500.
Some time ago the Mattel Company acquired an exclusive on production of Die-cast Ferraris, which was unfortunate, because the Mattel "Hot Wheels" Ferraris, while cheap(about $30)are poor replicas lacking detail and correct proportions. Most of them are knock-offs of older models previously released by Bburago and others.
This new Daytona is from Kyosho, which makes a great line of classic sports cars. I have no idea how they got around Mattel's monopoly but I hope they can do more Ferrraris.
P.S.-Kyosho's older 1/18th 512 BB is worthwhile as well.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
The Mattel models are not as good as when Minichamps had the license. I've bought a few, mostly the F1 cars because they are the only game-in-town. Lately I've been buying more 1/43, as the selection is larger and many of them are beautiful models. The BBR models most especially.
On the subject of "fake" Ferrari's, the Fiero club meet pretty regularly in a town close to me. There are several kit 308s and 328s among them. Most of them decked out with authentic badges, tail lights and occasionally almost complete interiors. What's the point of sinking that kind of money into something that is no longer fish nor foul.
It strikes me that if I was going to build a kit car, I'd like something that I could individualize and make a personal statement with as opposed to a pseudo-Ferrari. IMHO.
YEAH RIGHT!
-Autoweek Magazine
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
"Exactly WHY you spend $35,000 to replicate a car worth $30,000 and then sell
the replicar for $5,000 is somewhat beyond me right now. Maybe I missed
something clever here. "
??? A Ferrari Daytona Spyder is only worth $30,000? You must be thinking of Fiero based 308 kits. Hard to imagine putting a Daytona body on a Fiero space frame.
Ferrari SPA sued the makers of Daytona replica bodies for infringement of trade dress. I think they were successful.
Anything new on Carroll Shelby's similar suit
against Cobra replicas?
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Are you sure that was a fake Daytona Spyder in Miami Vice? You mean the 1972-73 365 GTS/4 ?
but then again Miami Vice seems like a long time ago.
I remember this too, officially it's not a 365 GTS/4. Oddly it's a 365 GTB/4 Daytona Spider. So says Geoffrey Eaton in "the Complete Ferrari" (1989) p. 182.
I hate to contradict the knowledgeable Mr. Shiftright but I consider Eaton's book the Bible.
Telling me he's wrong would be like telling Jerry Falwell there's not going to be a Second Coming.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I guess Don Johnson has a thing for replica cars...doesn't that detective in S.F. show have a fake hemicuda convertible?
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I believe that of the 4 or so cars built (jeez, probably a stunt car, spare car, camera car, whatever) half were 1970's and half were 1971's (the early cars getting nose and fender graftings). They also played with the color to get the right shade, glass to glass, through the TV (NTSC- never the same color twice).
Ferrari raised a stink ad sued the manufacturer and then gave Miami Vice two black TRs. They painted the cars white for night filming purposes. They also had a TR replica (Fiero, again) which was the stunt car.
A friend emailed me an Ebay auction today for a Mondial Cab, 3.2 which had been wrecked. His suggestion was to buy the car and drop a Fiero body on it! LOL
T
the Real GTO (Ferrari 250). Wish there was some good way to celebrate but Exoto's scale model doesn't come out till next year.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I'll take my answer off the air.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Tom
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Feel free to agree or disagree.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I'm also a fan of the Fiat Dino sports cars, both Coupe and Spider that shared the 2.4 v6 w the
(Ferrari)Dinos.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I, too, love the 206/246 Dino. Great car, but the ultimate sportscar? Sorry, I disagree there as well. To me, the ultimate will always be the 250 GTO.
Wouldn't it be nice if we could gather them together and spend a few days (weeks, months) admiring, driving and trying to decide who's right?!
I'm sitting here in Massachusetts freezing and wishing this #@*% winter would end so my car could go back on the road. Having this thread active agin helps.
Tom
I'm talking more about styling and to show what I mean look at the bulge and scoop in the center of the 550/575 hood and then look at the smooth expanse of the Daytona hood broken only by two small reverse scoops that are recessed, not protruding.
I think of the 250GTOs as race cars, rather than sports cars although I grant you it comes from the last era where there might be some confusion between the two.
BTW-Buon Anno Nouvo! I don't think winter's ever gonna be over in NH either, in fact it's getting colder instead of warmer. Where's that damned January thaw?
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I like its lines too, even though many people will not agree. But the resulting drag coefficient clearly points where the design was headed. Talk about a collector's car, only 349 are scheduled for production and all of them are already sold... even though it costs more than $600k!
andy - Not sure I agree with the more modern part of your statement but I think the Daytona is the most beautiful car ever, especially in spyder form.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Andy, I agree with you regarding the Daytona. It is sleeker in that sense but I wonder what you think of it compared to one of my other favorites the 275 GTB/4 long nose. The 275 is taller in profile but still retains that "in motion standing still" look that only the front engines V12's have.
Dgraves1, If I remember the figures correctly, the Enzo outperforms both with a possible exception of 0-60 times for the Viper. Speaking of the Murcielago, I think it's the best looking Lambo since the Miura.
Tom
ing about Mercury Marquis Broughams than about Daytonas and Dinos.
Tsaupe, I definitely put the Daytona ahead of the
275 GTB/4s. To me it's more modern looking with
it's trick headlight treatments and highly raked windshield. My cousin owned a 275. IIIRC it was the earlier 2-cam and he disagrees w me on this. Like many he sees the Daytonas as too "Italian Corvette".
I think there's more Italian Corvette in the Maranellos than in the Daytonas
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
Andy, you mentioned the Daytona headlights and it reminded me of something. The year before last when my wife and I were at Concorso Italiano, Sergio Pininfarina was the honoured guest. He talked about all of the Pininfarina designs and then told a story about the headlights on the Daytona. He told how shocked he was when he found out American owners were having their pop-up lights removed and the plexiglass covers installed to give the car that smooth Euro look. US owners at that time assumed this was another government conspiracy where-in some do-gooder paper pusher decided that the Euro lights were too dangerous for Americans. Much like what happened with the E-Type Jag.
Anyway, Mr. Pininfarina said the fact of the matter was that the plexi covers diffused too much light and didn't, in their opinion, provide enough night visibility. They meant the pop-ups as a fix, not a design concession! He begged any owner who was considering the change not to do it.
Well, that was long winded. You're right Andy, I'm glad to see this board active again.
Tom
I much prefer the look of the plexiglass but it is nice to be able to see at night.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
- 360 Modena Stradale: a Modena, just more race ready (5 point harnesses, improved brakes...);
- new 456 GT: a 4 seater, designed by P-you-know-who, equipped with a detuned (500hp vs 660) version of the Enzo's 6.0l V12.
Rumor: 360 should be restyled by September of this year and receive the 4.2l V8 developped by Ferrari for Maserati, to the tune of 460hp.
And of course, all of them will cost more than $100k... And of course again I'm quite sure Ferrari will sell every one of them
I understand that it's not going to be a complete four seater either. evidently it will be a roomier 2+2 but not quite a full 4 seater. Ferrari is planning to introduce a new Maserati to fill that niche.
Otherwise, it looks longer, although that may be an illusion of the ludicrous tacked on panels. The windshield looks a bit more raked. Somewhere I remember seeing a design drawing for the update and the sides were far more simply styled between the A and B pillars.
My understanding regarding the powerplant was that it was a modification of the 575M engine, and not a derivative of the Enzo.
I've seen pictures of the Stradale. It is very close to a 360M with some not very attractive graphics. However, if it really is a challenge car the stripes will be obliterated with sponsorship decals in no time.
Lasst I checked these "replica Californias" were worth more than a 250GTE,
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93