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I've got it on mine, and love it. Pleasantly loud w/o being obnoxious or attracting unwanted attention. Most importantly, it sounds great from the cockpit!
_John
Then the other day I called Ford direct, trying to get more information on the controversial 5W-20 motor oil (to no avail).
Here is where the great service part comes in. While talking to Ford about the oil, I mentioned the car pulled. After our conversation, she asked me about the pulling again. I said it couldn't seem to get fixed. She politely put me on hold, and then had her supervisor call my Ford dealership's service manager directly. They then came back on the phone, told me to take the car in again and ask for him.
I did so, and this time they really looked at it. Turned out the car was aligned, but some kind of camber thing was off. They adjusted it and it tracks perfect now!
I think Ford is a great company. Any problem can slip through the cracks of a busy dealership, even a very good one. But Ford went out of their way to survey me about the car, and then when I mentioned a problem, they really worked to get it fixed.
AmericanFord
I do like the sound with it out.
What do you think of an X-pipe and Flowmasters?
Isn't the sound level adjustable with Flowmasters?
http://www.domesticdisturbance.net/videos/deomonspeedmissed2ndhah- - aha.avi (second gear... blah hehe)
Well, it looks like they don't have that on their server now.... don't know what else to tell you there.
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It's a good compromise IMO between being stock and going "racecar" loud. Has that classic muscle car sound (though I hear if you have an X-pipe, you'll get a higher-pitched, NASCAR-like sound). Indeed did get it from GEFracing...had it about 3 days after I ordered!
Still have my silencer out, and actually have my K&N out as well right now...I have been getting some detonation under load, and I'm experimenting to see what's causing it.
BTW, 'Flag good story about Ford...makes me feel better, as there are so many horror stories on Stangnet...
On sale date: Fall 2004, as a 2005 model. IIRC there won't be a Cobra until 2006.
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
I just hope I won't love my 2002 less when the new one hits the street. : (
_John
I assume you got the one they list for $260 plus shipping.
Thanks.
Maximus, the 5W-20 thing is controversial, as I am finding is just about everything dealing with engine lubrication and filtration. Apparently, the 5W-20 is showing good results in oil analysis, but I am uncomfortable with it. I am using Mobil 1 5W-30, which is a thin 30 weight anyway, almost a 20. There are warranty concerns though to consider. I just can't do the 20 weight.
On the alignment, Ford did great. How a car tracks is a hot button for me. The dealership really got it right. I love Ford, I actually get misty eyed when I think about Ford!
John, you took out the K&N? I hope you put something else back in! What about gas mileage? I have heard having the air silencer removed can make the air mixture rich and reduce gas mileage? What are your experiences?
2001 BMW 330ci/E46, 2008 BMW 335i conv/E93
BTW the Ford Racing catalog (and the Ford Racing guys themselves when I called them) claims it fits only 1998-2001 GTs...this is NOT TRUE. There have been no changes to the exhaust system since 1999, and sure enough it fits my 2002 GT perfectly.
The install is straightforward...had I the space and a way to get the car up, I could have done it myself. The hardest part would have been sawing through the stock catback to remove it...
I am wondering if the Air Silencer being removed is part of the problem. I have heard it causes the fuel mixture to be too rich.
Also, we know Ford takes gas mileage seriously. Maybe their air silencer (is that really the part's name, or is that just what we call it?) is better designed than we think. I can certainly see where it would draw in colder air in a more organized fashion with it on. Ford has got the car finely tuned, maybe having the part removed is throwing things off. 15 mpg sounds pretty low to me.
_John
I am getting a little concerned about the gas situation. I am starting to feel a little like Mad Max in The Road Warrior. Great car, but fuel is a little scarce and the world is getting crazy. At least I am good looking. I even bought a leather jacket.
Kidding all around...but reminds me though that there was an interesting (closed now I think) thread on "the Camaro stereotype" awhile back...
It's hard to find a real clean 3rd gen, but they are starting to pop up more and more.
The leather jacket I have is bad! It is black with a white racing stripe down the side. Since I drive the Stang, I feel totally justified wearing it! I would have felt a bit like a posseur is I had worn the leather racing jacket with my old Honda Civic...
Oh, yeah. Girls like it. This car gets a lot of attention.
Re the warranty issue, I'd rather exhaust my options in dealing with it myself first, as 1) Ford will quickly say that the K&N could be causing it, so put the stocker back in, 2) they will say "put the airsilencer back on" and 3) at worst case, they will push the timing back to arrest the detonation.
I'd rather see if I can fix it myself first.
Prolonged heavy denotation will punch a hole right through a piston as easily as an armor piercing shell.
The owner's manual even says that this is "normal" and not to be worried about...but I still don't like it. I know that Ford keeps the timing on new Mustangs really lean, and any change to the airflow can push the engine into detonation...
"Prolonged heavy denotation will punch a hole right through a piston as easily as an armor piercing shell"...that's great imagery! I saw the results of this very thing on a friend's Chevy Corsica years ago. : (