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Ford Mustang (2004 and earlier)

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  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    The rear seats also fold down which makes it much more flexible for carrying cargo. I have this in my Lincoln LS and I've actually carried a 5 foot stepladder with no problem.
  • If no stick shift is available, doesn't is seem proper that the automatic should come with no extra charge? I mean when I bought my 95 thunderbird, it came only with a V8 because V6's were unavailable and the price was taken off the sticker by the factory. So I got the V8 for free with Ford's blessing. Seems to me that if you can't get manual, the price of the auto trans should be included in the MSRP. What do any of you think?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    Who said a manual is unavailable?
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    Ummmmmm, kinda depends on sales, don't you think?

    I mean, if Ford is selling every one they can make, with no problem, why should they discount the auto equipped cars to sell for the same price as the manuals? After all, the auto tranny costs FORD more money than the manual. If the buying public is willing to PAY more, why not charge it?

    If a dealership is awash in auto equipped Mustangs, then that certainly gives you more room to dicker down closer to invoice. But to expect Ford to drop the MSRP down to match the manuals (instead of just making more manuals) seems a little farfetched to me.
  • fdthirdfdthird Posts: 352
    As the owner of a 2000 Mustang convertible I have to disagree about the amount of back seat leg space. At 5/8 I know I do not ride with the front seat all the way back, and although I would not want to ride all day back there, I find no problem putting adults in the back seat for short trips (like to dinner or the like). I have sat back there on occasion too and it is doable. I'd say its the classic 2+2 configuration.

    As to the trunk release...too bad (1)they are no longer a part of the package and (2)why did they continue to put it in the glove box??? I find I use my key fob trunk button much more than the button simply because it (1) is in the glove box and (2)because of the style of the Mustang glove box, most times "stuff" will fall out when you open the door!

    For the trunk access, the pictures I've seen look like its very similar to the car it is replacing. Looks like the same center dip to the bumper but the sides still are much higher to clear the tail lights.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    Can someone who has actually sat in a new GT verify that the GT speedo goes to 140 mph and not 120 mph? The Ford website and magazine reviews say 140 but someone reported sitting in one and said it was 120.
  • rorrrorr Posts: 3,630
    From what I understand re: the speedo - the GT models have a 140mph speedo, the V6 models have the 120mph speedo. Can the individual who sat in the car verify that it was a GT and not a V6 model?
  • Does anybody know if and when they will come out with a convertible in the new Mustang body style?
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    Should be shown at the Detroit Auto Show (and possibly SEMA before that). On sale in February.
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  • dan1dan1 Posts: 76
    I sat in an 05 V6 Mustang today it was pretty sharp. They had a GT in stock but someone had it out for a drive. I really like the styling but I also really like the looks of my Bullitt. I was only in it for a minute and did not notice what the speedo went up to but the GT's go to 140mph. Car and Driver has a good write up on the new GT in it's recent issue 0-60 in 5.2 seconds and through the 1/4 in about 13.7 seconds. They also said it had more grip than any current Cobra! I guess the new chassis is pretty good.
  • The factory has informed us not to place orders for V6 with manual transmission because it is on hold. They will be built but not right now. You can still get a manual in the GT.
  • I took a short test drive today in a V6 auto (as noted above, there are no manuals to be had right now. My salesman checked with his manager, and he confirmed that manuals can't be ordered until January). Overall, I was impressed, especially considering the price. FWIW, the V6 speedo is calibrated to 120 MPH. I'm sure the V8 is a hoot, but I really prefer the cleaner look of the V6, and the power and torque is fine -- it all depends on your frame of reference, and I've been driving a four cylinder compact pickup for 4 years :) The side windows are slick, as they have the same type of auto drop and raise feature found on BMW 3 Series coupes and the 350Z to make a tight weather seal. The view underhood is also good, with everything readily accessible - oil filter changes will be a snap. Can't wait to order mine after the new year!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    The percentage of V6 mustangs sold with a stick is very small, so there's no reason for them to put any type of extra incentive or discount on them. Plus they're selling like hotcakes as it is.

    On your Tbird they probably needed to give you that extra incentive to keep sales up. If you're selling all you can make as it is - why discount it?
  • setzersetzer Posts: 127
    When will you be able to start putting orders in for the convertible version? It's supposed to come out this Spring.
  • I had a chance to test-drive an '05 Mustang V6 Deluxe this weekend. Overall, I must say that I really liked it but I have to cite similar concerns about the angle of the front headrests as previous poster(s). I was able to adjust the headrest up and down, but couldn't get comfortable throughout the drive. I was unable to figure out a way to adjust the rake of the headrest - it didn't appear that was possible. Am I wrong on this?

    By the end of the testdrive, my neck was beginning to ache. I'm 5'11 and about 170. Although I'm certainly not tall, I imagine that the seat would probably be much less uncomfortable for a shorter person. Which begs the question, for what demographic did Ford design these seats?
  • I'm 6'5", but most of my height is in my legs. I didn't notice the head restraints poking the back of my head while I drove the V6, but I'd guess it all depends on your height and your posture. Many people think of the restraints as "headrests", but keep in mind that is not their purpose - they are placed there to limit rearward travel of your head in the event of a rear end collision. It was never intended for them to be used as "rests".
  • ricschricsch Posts: 540
    I had the chance to drive a GT with the 5spd. auto. trans. and was very impressed with the car overall.

    For curiosity, I would like to drive the V6 to see how it performs, but after driving the GT, it would be hard to not go with the V8 and it's performance, also, the exhaust sounds great!

    Not crazy about the big door speaker grilles, the GT fog lamp grille should be available on the V6 as should dual exhaust-at least to make the appearance of the back of the car look better. Assume the aftermarket will have something available.
  • First of all the new stangs are insane. I'm lookin to buy a GT, all I want is the basic GT with an alarm, thats it. I hate how dealers take advantage of a sick new car and jack the prices up from msrp cause the new stangs are definitely affordable if it weren't for the dealers.

    Also, does anyone know what kind of increase in my insurance I can expect in going from a v6 mustang from 01 to the new GT, and being under 25 years old with no tickets or accidents.

    Does anyone else hate NJ for their s***tty insurance????

    oh yeah and does anyone know if the my color gauges come standard on all mustangs, or do you need to get the interior upgrade package to get them? If they don't come standard are they available for individual purchase and installation
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    They're part of the interior upgrade package and most likely can't be dealer installed. Not yet at least.

    As for prices - ask for the fleet manager and tell him you want to order a mustang. He'll probably sell it to you at MSRP or below, you'll just have to wait a few weeks.
  • i have 17 in. mach one rims on my 01 v6 now...does anyone know if i could put them on a new GT?

    i mean theoretically i could..i dont see why not.
  • First of all, being from Canada we are dieing without our Hockey. Anyway. I am currently driving a 01 330. I must say it is an awsome car. The new mustangs are only going to be at our dealers in the next 2 weeks, so I have only seen pictures and read about it. I am very excited. I defenitley want to test drive the 8
    I have no problem leaving BMW. I am always looking for something new. I am not expecting the new stang to have the driving dynamics of a Bmw. Can anyone relate?? I know the power will be there, but what about the handleing??
  • nedc2nedc2 Posts: 192
    What it Canada without a Hockey Night in it? What's the point? How can we go on without those fashion tips from Don Cherry? Where are my Red Wings? AAAARRRGGGHHHH!!!

    Sorry, I couldn't help myself;)
  • If i got a new GT could i put the 17' mach 1 rims from my 01 v6 onto it???

    How much do you think my insurance would increase from right now having an 01 v6 mustang and getting a GT, being under 25 and having no tickets or accidents???? Anyone???

    Scenario: You make $1300 a month, you work 6 months out of the year for a co-op (you stop working in march and start back up in september), you have no bills or anything to pay besides your entertainment expenses for the weekends and stuff. Out of your monthly pay you make $336 car payments for a new GT, $100 towards car insurance, save $600 for the car payments while your not working, and be on a $200 dollar budget for entertainment(would be $300 but estimating $40 for gas and $60 for bridge tolls per month). Would you buy the GT and make the payments on it???? or wait and buy a used one in a year or so????
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    It won't be quite as good as your BMW technically speaking but from what I've heard it's very good and way better than the old platform. Only way for you to judge is to drive it since this is a highly subjective area.
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    To be perfectly honest, you should probably buy a used Focus and save your money for a couple of years and then try to buy a 2 yr old used mustang GT. Trying to finance a $25K car on what is basically $650/month average take-home is very risky.

    As for the rims, they may or may not fit, depends on the offset and bolt pattern.
  • eh..ill stick with my v6...but thanks for the advice. its just gonna kill me to see the new mustangs on the road now, especially when the spoiled little brats who just got their licenses are drivin them.

    well the good thing is my younger brother gets his license in about a year and the plan is to give him my car and my parents buy my half of the car so ill have a solid down payment...hopefully by then i'll have a good amount saved and i'll be able to find a used GT for a good price!
  • akirbyakirby Posts: 7,668
    I understand the temptation - been there myself. But you don't want to overextend yourself. Here's something that helped me:

    Picture your current V6 mustang and a new GT sitting side by side. Let's say the V6 is worth $10K and the GT cost $30K including finance charges.

    Now picture the V6 with $20,000 cash sitting in the front seat. Would you rather have the V6 and $20,000 cash or the GT?

    That just helps put the real cost in perspective. When you're only thinking about monthly payments it's easy to lose track of the bigger picture.
  • hahaha its a tough decision...but i guess in the long run youre right...thanks again
  • Considering how the Mustang is gonna help save Ford, why do they persist in making the GT, a 150K car? The whole point of ford was to a car everyone can afford.
    Style is one of the hardes things to hit, guys let me ask you, imagine is where mustang left off (40K) you would have the Shelby GR-1 as say, a lincoln or Mercury model? for say 40K - 60K??? Wouldnt that, with such style, and the semi-affordability of 40K help fords image surge?

    http://www.maximum-cars.com/Cars/Ford/2004-Shelby-GR-1-C/1.jpg
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