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ZMW - What do you think?

jlvjlv Posts: 14
edited March 24 in Yugo
Does (did) anyone have a Yugo? What did you

think about it?


Just curious about everyone's opinion on the new

"Yugo" - aka the ZMW.


http://www.forbes.com/2002/04/23/0423yugo.html.html

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  • jlvjlv Posts: 14
    Well, apparently this discussion is DOA. If the lack of response here is any indication, the new Yugo is destined to again be a "no-go".

    Shucks! I created a "dead" discussion on Edmunds. What an ego-buster.
  • 5port5port Posts: 395
    Hey jlv,

    I used to own 3 Fiat 128s. Yugo adopted the design from Fiat for the Yugo. I personally think they were good cars (if you stayed on top of the repairs). Reliable,never let me down (ok they would stop in a heavy downpoors due to the dist getting wet).

    I think this new Yugo from the pictures will sell. Unfortunately ZMW has the Yugo rep to ward off. ZMW seems to be giving you an expensive look for not a lot of money. I would like to see more pictures before I make a final jugdement.

    Lets see, should I buy a BMW or a ZMW...HMM.
  • revkarevka Posts: 1,750
    Interesting article. It will be interesting to see how the ZMW does here. I didn't see any information on the specs in the article, but I think the very low price will certainly draw some interest.

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  • dustidusti Posts: 36
    that's the ticket.

    No one will notice they're BACK.

    Who says you can't skin a sheep twice?
  • caesarslegioncaesarslegion Posts: 109
    I wont bore you with details but it was a good little car. Ill buy one when they come out. As long as these yugos have a good warranty and a few dealers around. I think zmw has a just as good chance as the Koreans do. Any one know for sure when they'll be selling here?
  • jlvjlv Posts: 14
    Please give some details.

    I can't find any dates on the web, but based on my limited search,
    Zastava (the maker of Yogos) has been doing business with other
    countries in Europe.

    At this point, I'm curious.
  • caesarslegioncaesarslegion Posts: 109
    I too am having problems with finding any thing new on ZMW. Last Fridays USA. TODAY had a big article on the new yugo imports that are coming to the USA. The article went on to say that ZMW is bringing a 2 door hatch,a 4 door sedan and a small pick up truck. These new cars will be using Peugeot engines and transmissions. The pictures shown were of the sedan and hatch and I think they look like they have a hint of Jag style to them. The only sites I know of that have any thing on yugo are Epinions.com and carsurvey.org.
    also before I go I just read that ZMW will try to bring them to the US market next year at a cost of $5,000 to $10,000. If I find any thing new Ill post it.
  • lespacelespace Posts: 9
    Actually, the ZMWs to be sold in the US will have engines supplied by Peugeot, Volkswagen or another of Europe's automakers. There doesn't seem to be definitve word.

    I'm not too sure about the styling of these. The Jaguar-inspired front of the "Florida" model (as it's known in Europe) is at odds with the boxy form it is attempting to dress up. It might've been simpler (and more elegant) to emulate something like VW's styling.

    The smaller new model "Koral" actually has more unified design overall but easily gives away its Yugo origins. It strongly resembles the current Hyundai Accent but with hints of a recent Alfa hatch.

    I would actually consider buying the truck. A mini-truck hasn't been on the US market in years.
  • caesarslegioncaesarslegion Posts: 109
    Have you seen what this little truck looks like?
  • jlvjlv Posts: 14
    I found a picture of the "Florida" and "Skala" at:


    http://www.zastavasa.co.yu/Index1.htm


    but I couldn't get the pictures to copy/paste.

    (NOTE: Click on Automobili.)

  • lespacelespace Posts: 9
    The pictures on the Zastava website are not the new designs that will be sold in the US. Check here instead:


    http://www.hszk.bme.hu/~oj002/yugo/flsedan.htm

    http://www.hszk.bme.hu/~oj002/yugo/kcurrent2.htm


    I haven't found a picture of a new truck yet. I also found out that www.zastava.com is NOT the forthcoming US sales website. It is some other company.

  • caesarslegioncaesarslegion Posts: 109
    Pretty neat looking cars.
  • jlvjlv Posts: 14
    The new models do look interesting (aka better). I wish I could find out when they are to arrive here in the U.S.
  • 5port5port Posts: 395
    Florida

    That front end looks very different depending on the angle. The rear is just as controversal. All in all a nice design (especially in this price range). You can still see the Fiat 128 origins.

    Koral

    Neat design. Interior is a little lacking. Makes my Hyundai seem like a luxoboat. I like the front end treatment the most. Since when have you seen projector headlights in this price class. They may be onto something.
  • lngtonge18lngtonge18 Posts: 2,228
    My God, the outside of that car looks just like my 84 Rabbit!! Tack on some rectangular sealed beam headlights and some metal bumpers and it would be a Rabbit. It's uncanny the resemblance. With some different headlights and a nicer interior, it would be a neat car.

    As for the Florida, its design looks very mid-80s, like a box on wheels. The rear end styling is strange to say the least and the front only looks good head on. I don't like it and I'm not sure that model would sell too well here. I mean the side profile looks like a Hyundai Excel sedan or an Isuzu I-Mark.
  • caesarslegioncaesarslegion Posts: 109
    The more I looked at it the more it does look like a rabbit
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Posts: 593
    So when will these things be added to the "Future Models" section?
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Posts: 593
    Anyone find any specs on these things yet? I haven't....nothing but the above pictures, actually.
  • andys120andys120 Loudon NHPosts: 16,757
    Look up Malcom Bricklin's track record. He couldn't even make it in the bicycle business and he's busted out of the auto business 3 times:
    Subaru 360 (importer), Bricklin(mfr), Yugo (importer).

    I doubt he'd know a good car if one ran him over.

    2000 BMW 528i, 2001 BMW 330CiC

  • Ok I just got a better gander at the yugo truck and yes its a little plain jane but for the price you could buy it and beat the heck out of it and not feel bad. Look at the ranger and s-10 4 cyl trucks and you might see you really dont get much for the price. For $6k or so why not? The next time your teenage kid wants the keys to go driving just go a head and hand them over ha ha ha. I might get one just to say I owned one. I guess that makes me a freak.
  • npaladin2000npaladin2000 Posts: 593
    You know, it all depends on whether they fall apart or not. They might make great "Disposable" cars for kids and stuff....at least they can buy a car with a warranty, instead of a used hunk of junk.

    besides, i think the front of the hatchback is cool looking....same with the back of the sedan. But yes, the interior needs a bit of work....of course, those that beat up on interiors won't care about that, will they?
  • Yeah tell me about it, I had several used hunk of junk cars in my life. I think the hatch is cool but I just bought one so now all I need is a small no frills pick up and I hope ZMW brings them over.
  • hjr2hjr2 Posts: 105
    looks like they stole the Santa Fe/ or X-Type Jag front ends.

    The one angle I dislike is the trunk(deck) lid/corner..looks like a Spectrum!

    If they'd at least round out the corners on it...then it might gel better with the sort of rounded off front end.

    For 10grand, it looks alot nicer than a Rio/Accent/ECHO, that is for sure.

    Now, as everyone else has stated, If they hold up and have enough delaerhsips,etc, in 2-3 years, yeah, I'd may consider one for a work car, perhaps.

    The truck had 2 large tractor tires in it. Should be ok to haul some stuff.

    It reminds me of a 1980's truck, in size and looks. Hey, if they hold up and are no more than 10 grand, they could sell? Retro look is in, ya' know.
  • mrnimmomrnimmo Posts: 271
    Kias, Hyundais, now Yugos returning to the market. What's next, Gremlins?

    I'm convinced it is all financed by Greenpeace or Algore 2004 or some other group of environmental-wackos who are secretly attempting to make americans hate cars.
  • verozahlverozahl Posts: 574
    Close, mrnimmo, but no cigar.
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    wow. Only 12 US dealers. I live in Ohio. my nearest dealer could be Chicago or Indiapolis. For those of you in Alaska, forget about it.
  • verozahlverozahl Posts: 574
    Yeah, I wouldn't worry about ZMV being all over with only twelve dealers. But, they'll be exclusive...! >:)
  • jchan2jchan2 Posts: 4,956
    I heard now there's going to be 500 US dealers
  • I've decided to write a paper for my economics course on the topic of Yugo and Hyundai. I'm going to analyze why Yugo failed and Hyundai succeeded in the US, and use those conclusions to predict whether ZMW will succeed or not.


    In the course of researching this, I've come up with some information about the ZMW venture that might interest some people.


    First of all, there are going to be 12 distributors, not 12 dealers. There will certainly need to be more dealers than that if ZMW is going to get anywhere.


    This article indicates that Bricklin signed a pre-contract with Zastava at the beginning of October, so the process is indeed moving forward. A lot is riding on the success of Zastava in terms of the former-Yugoslavia's economy, so their government is paying close attention to this deal.


    Here is a photo of a current production Zastava Koral:


    image


    I don't know whether the US version will look like that, or like the one in the Belgrade show pics that have been circulated recently. Personally, I kind of like the way this one looks.


    -Andrew L

  • The picture is not too bad but I think zmw should start staying away from the box style it last had. If the price is right and dealer ships are plenty then Ill buy one. I think more curves are in order though.
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