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Toyota Sienna Future Models

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  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,428
    Actually I would consider this fall to be the fall of '03 not the fall of '04. : ^ )
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    that it(ody release) has been postponed by 18 months. That would be bang on with 04 fall.
  • ash21ash21 Posts: 10
    You are still adding one year in your conversation, this fall is 2003, I think, right.
  • crv16crv16 Posts: 205
    And will be released as a 2005 model. They have no incentive to dump money into a redesign when the current generation is selling faster than they can make them now...
  • ash21ash21 Posts: 10
    But not for long now since this new Sienna, that's for sure.
  • Remember a few post back the comment I made about the product specialist in Detroit saying that the chief engineer of the new Sienna had personally driven it 50,000 miles. Well I found a little more info on this at the Princeton, IN newspaper. Which is the local paper where the new Sienna will be built.

    http://www.pdclarion.com/archives/index.inn?loc=detail&doc=/2- - 003/January/07-2611-news1.txt

    Another good article at their site.
    http://www.pdclarion.com/archives/index.inn?loc=detail&doc=/2- 003/January/16-2675-news2.txt
  • Hello guys, I am new to this discussion. I have been looking at an SUV for a while and I haven't found one that I like. They are a bit too expensive (to get what I want) and, honestly, they don't provide me what a van could: space, 7 passengers (some SUV do it, but they are way up there), a good wheelbase to allow comfortable towing of a hardtop, good fuel consumption (in Canada, the price of gaz is a bit high, an yah, I want to do my share for kyoto...), etc.

    We now want a van, but can't find something we like. Some look good, but have a look at consumer review magazine to see how bad Ford, GM and Chrysler stand. Its a shame. Mazda is nice, but not much under the hood. Sienna 2003 is a good vehicle, and the price right now is outstanding, but it is UGLY! The interior is plain! Could buy it and I would make a good deal, but getting this new car would provide me with 0 excitement!

    This new Sienna 2004 looks great. It is as strong as any V6 SUV out there (including the one I like the most, the Pathfinder), it has most of the utilities copied from other car makers. Interior looks excellent, and price (?) may be decent, although we will have to wait a couple of monthe until demand is lower and offer is higher.

    I will keep looking at this board. The information is just great. I will try to do my share...
  • Hello guys, I am new to this discussion. I have been looking at an SUV for a while and I haven't found one that I like. They are a bit too expensive (to get what I want) and, honestly, they don't provide me what a van could: space, 7 passengers (some SUV do it, but they are way up there), a good wheelbase to allow comfortable towing of a hardtop, good fuel consumption (in Canada, the price of gaz is a bit high, an yah, I want to do my share for kyoto...), etc.

    We now want a van, but can't find something we like. Some look good, but have a look at consumer review magazine to see how bad Ford, GM and Chrysler stand. Its a shame. Mazda is nice, but not much under the hood. Sienna 2003 is a good vehicle, and the price right now is outstanding, but it is UGLY! The interior is plain! Could buy it and I would make a good deal, but getting this new car would provide me with 0 excitement!

    This new Sienna 2004 looks great. It is as strong as any V6 SUV out there (including the one I like the most, the Pathfinder), it has most of the utilities copied from other car makers. Interior looks excellent, and price (?) may be decent, although we will have to wait a couple of monthe until demand is lower and offer is higher.

    I will keep looking at this board. The information is just great. I will try to do my share...
  • leknlekn Posts: 78
    I have to disagree about the lack of safety benefit of AWD. Granted that I do not have any information on the AWD system Sienna uses

    *Does anybody know any details on the Sienna's AWD system here?*

    Some AWD systems works better than the others. A good AWD systems, such as Audi's torsen, would actually help you during cornering. The car feels more stable. In the snow, the difference is huge.

    And there are also countless number of specific circumstances where AWD would get you out of trouble e.g. you won't get stuck in a large snow bank, you won't have difficulty going up an unplowed uphill ramp, you won't get caught in an unexpected early snowstorm before you have a chance to change into winter tires... etc.

    Of course, one should always know your limit whatever car you drive. But that's not a reason not to get AWD! It's just like advising people to drive a car with underpowered engine so that you won't go too fast. There are situations which require you to accelerate out of danger.
  • what year is this anyways--2001, right?

    ;-)

    ok, this fall (2003) as a 2004 model.

    that's what i believe honda plans to do with the ody--release it late this year as an '04.

    there. i've said it. i've read it and re-read it twice. this is EXACTLY what i mean to say.

    phew.

    if honda has decided to delay it a year, that's news to me.

    *** disclaimer: i don't really work in honda's north american marketing department, although i may play such a role on tv.
  • Samnoe:

    I believe your question re fuel was answered in this discussion several days ago. The answer given was 87 Octane (regular unleaded). Let's hope that answer is correct.
  • Now that you've figured out what year this is I wonder if your info re the Ody. release date is accurate. I think I'll wait for a second opinion!
  • I read somewhere that 2005 Odyssey will be a redesign and that it is coming out in the fall of 2004.
  • dplachtadplachta Posts: 109
    I like the gear shifter. The driver will have a better feel for the gear he's selecting. I like the fact that the speedometer only goes to 110. I'll never go faster than 85 anyhow and most of the time we're going 25 to 45. Also, I don't care one bit that the front passenger seat isn't power. Manual adjustment is just as good.

    I sure would like to see people get a little more frugal and practical.
  • With power passenger seat you would not be able to have the under seat drawer and foot room for the second row passenger would be limited due to the motor & electronics.
  • deepandeepan Posts: 342
    where are they located. Current generation has them under the front seats which eliminates the drawer under the seat. I think i saw a/c ducts on the roof which is what they have today.
  • After posting about he lack of seat controls for the passenger I thought the same thing about the drawer and components. However, our ML320 has a drawer and power seats too. But the drawer is much smaller and there is very limited room under the seat for your feet b/c of the seat motor.

    So this could be why Toyota didn't use it.

    I can live without the controls..no biggy for us as long as it reclines and moves up and down.
  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    I understand you like this shifter just b/c it's found in some luxury vehicles, but I think that's should be offered as an option. Like Toyota's Avalon, you can choose a shifter between the seats or a steering-wheel-column shifter.

    I always say: the more options and choices a car manufacturer gives for customers, the more buyers will be. You know, everybody is different, and it's almost impossible to satisfy everybody. So giving options for the customer to choose his own taste is always good. Not to force him to take one kind of wheels in the LE model, for example, and another kind for XLE. Just offer 3 wheel designs, and let everybody choose his favorite design. Get the point?...

    I personal think the new Sienna is quite a nice vehicle, but has some weak points in design. It looks similar to the Highlander, why not copy the tail lights? the Highlanders is nice, I like it. And the front single-line-grille is also soooo plain. I love some bolder designs, as Chrysler Town&Country. But I'm not complaining. I'm sure there are many people who loves the new design. And - it's impossible to satisfy everybody!
  • kroliphkroliph Posts: 75
    I have not had a chance to read allot of the posts here. So, someone may have already asked this question. I understand that the new Sienna will offer AWD as an option. If you get a van w/ AWD do you still get the 60/40 flat folding 3rd row seating? Another words, do they take the space or well where the 3rd seat would fold flat into to make room for the AWD system?
    Thanks.
  • dplachtadplachta Posts: 109
    Any word on the pricing details yet? It was posted last week that that info would be available on the 20th, which was yesterday.

    AWD and 3rd seat:
    From what I've read, AWD will come with the folding rear seat. You lose the spare tire.

    Evidently, the tires will be the run flat type.
  • toyotakentoyotaken Posts: 897
    ALL models of the new Sienna will have the 60/40 split folding and disappearing rear seat. AWD, FWD, CE, LE, XLE and XLE limited models all have the same designed rear seat.

    Ken
  • kroliphkroliph Posts: 75
    Thanks for the good news. I don't mind losing the spare tire for run flats if I can have the flat folding 3rd row and AWD! Why would you buy an SUV if you can get AWD on the new Sienna? For most people, that should be sufficient. Especially if you do not go off road. If you have a good reason to buy an SUV then buy one. Otherwise, get an AWD Minivan.
  • Does anyone know what auto shows the 2004 Sienna will be at? Hoping it will be in Buffalo, NY Feb. 5 - 9th. There seems to be several autoshows that weekend.

    How about pricing for trim lines and option packages?
  • deg856deg856 Posts: 120
    A manufacturer can offer three shifter locations, give body sizes, six different front end and ten different taillight designs, fifty wheels (and so on), but you won't like what they have to charge to cover the additional development and logistics cost.

    If money is no concern, there is always Jesse James and his Monster Garage.

    San Jose, CA
  • My wife is bummed that there is no integrated child seat in the new Sienna. Any reasons Toyota would have left out this feature?
  • samnoesamnoe Posts: 731
    As I see, the new upcoming Lexus RX330 will use the same engine as 'our' Sienna, 3.3L V6 with 230 hp and 242 LB-ft of torque, with VVT-i technology...
  • jraiderjraider Posts: 25
    Sequoiasaurus

    Since you have a sequoia (I'm guessing from your screen name). How do you compare the new Sienna to the Sequoia? We had a 98 Sienna and traded it in for a Sequoia in November. I really like the Sequoia. I was wondering if I missed the boat, not waiting for the new Sienna. We really didn't have a choice though, our lease was up. I really didn't want a 03 Sienna because it looked exactly like my 98. I already had two Previas (before the sienna), so I thought I'd switch from another van. Just curious as to your opinion.
  • toyotakentoyotaken Posts: 897
    Klear, I've asked the Toyota reps about having the '04 Sienna at the Auto show here in Buffalo, but they don't have enough room and they told me that they will only be bringing it to a few very select markets for their auto-shows. I'm disappointed as well, but I guess we'll just have to wait until March to see them in person.

    Ken
  • Yes I do own a Sequoia. I bought it in Nov 2000 after seeing it in Detroit earlier that January. When I was looking at that time I had just returned an Olds Silo minivan and was looking for another reliable minivan or SUV. The Olds is a whole other story and I won't go down that path ever again.

    Anyway when I saw the Sequoia I fell in love. It had all I thought I would needed; seating for 8, convenience of truck for work; Toyota quality etc.

    Now in hind sight maybe it wasn't so good of a choice after all. Gas mileage is worse than I had expected (13-14 mpg) and a tad to big for my wife to drive. Overall I love it and am still somewhat hesitant to trade it in especially with an upgraded Sequoia coming this fall. But most likely I will get a minivan and probably the Sienna.

    The Sienna provides a lot more of family conveniences but less of my work needs. I like the extra storage behind the 3rd row (shopping), convenience of stow 3rd row (work), sliding doors means less nicks in garage and parking lots, DVD entertainment system is the only item I miss from my Olds Silo days. Also remember the Sienna gets better gas mileage too.

    With a 2 and 4 year old the minivan just makes more sense for us.
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