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Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions

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  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    Is it Murphy's Law that when a warranty expires, things go wrong on a car? My wife has been saying she wants to buy her car next year at the end of the lease. Now she's having second thoughts because of some weird problems. The dome light, glove box light, and gear shift light (on the shifter) work intermittently. The clock stopped working but the radio is fine. This morning, maybe because of ice, the power antenna only went up about a foot. She also smelled something buring. Antenna motor perhaps? She has an appointment with the dealer this Saturday, but I was wondering if anyone had any ideas or comments.
    She measures the reliability of her OB to her previous (you'll like this paisan) 95 Rodeo. She had a 4 year lease with that and only had to have the battery replaced and the rear hatch latch adjusted (after 3 years, 10 months).
    Dennis
  • kate5000kate5000 Posts: 1,267
    This why I tend to buy extended warranties... So far, extended warranties paid off for me for camcorders, VCRs, TVs, washer/dryers, even cell phone when it went wrong on me. The only instance I lost money on extended warranty was for my old Subaru Loyale'92. That damn thing never broke or malfunctioned... another example of Murphy's law I guess.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    I had a '97 Rodeo, it went 120,000 miles, never went to the dealer, except when I returned it. I replaced a battery 1/2 way through the 3 years I had it, and did oil changes ever 3K miles. :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I like the white-faced gauges too. You're more likely to have the center gauge pod replaced, though.

    Dennis: electrical gremlines are tricky. I'd leave that up to the dealer.

    -juice
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,931
    Does anyone know if the imprezzia gauge pack could be grafted onto the outback dash without looking too tacky, I know all things are possible if you are determined enough I know I have managed to make some pretty strange applications work in other cars I have owned, I always add oil and volt gauges as I believe idiot lights were designed by idiots for idiots, I have not seen this gauge back and I do not want to spend a bunch of money to find out it would not remotely work.
    In my present honda I have an oil pressure gauge and a volt meter mounted in pod on the a pillar my wife does not like it here as she says it causes her some obstruction it does not bother me but if I can get something that would mount in centre of dash when I eventually get my outback I would go for that.
    Cheers Pat,
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm sure it could fit with enough custom work. My concern would be the squeeks and rattles you may end up with, though.

    -juice
  • erics6erics6 Posts: 684
    Anybody out there heard anything about a solution to the pinging in the 00 Phase II Subaru engine. My Outback is still pinging unless I use super unleaded. I spoke with the dealer today and they still don't have a TSB from Subaru. (The regional service rep. drove it in September.) I'd rather not pay extra for the super, but I don't want to cause any long-term engine damage. Just curious if anyone has heard of a solution to this problem.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I wonder if the timing is manually adjustable? Or does the computer set it automatically?

    My Miata is set manually, and it you advance the timing too much it tends to ping (and requires premium).

    It's worth asking. Try the i Club.

    -juice
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,931
    I may be out in left field but I was under the impression that the obd11 in conjunction with the ecu was supposed to compensate gas quality albeit at the expense of performance I would also imagine that the timing could be manually adjusted but just defeats the whole purpose.
    Cheers Pat.
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    It's not critical that plastic is "harder" than rubber -- for instance, the metal used in bullets is obviously "harder" than the kevlar fabric used in bullet-proof vests, and yet the vests work fine. Since a tire is a layered composite structure (like a vest), it's the sum of the parts (rubber, steel belts, nylon cords, plys, etc) that adds up to its strength. In my book, a good tire ought to withstand a 1/8" inch deep puncture from a piece of plastic!

    I pulled a 1/2" sheet metal screw out of a tire on my last car with no effect, and even looked inside the tire to see if there was a dimple or puncture. Nada. The tire was fine. I think the Firestones on the OB are just made cheap.

    Craig
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Don't forget, just like every bridge you drive over on the highway, the company that made the tires or the bridge is the one who was the lowest bidder! Scarry thought isn't it :)

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I'm sure there are other factors, like noise, tread life, bribe money, etc. ;o)

    OE tires are always a mainstream compromise. I've never replaced an OE tire with the same tire.

    -juice
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You can reset the ECU by letting the engine cool first, then disconnecting the negative battery terminal for about half hour. When you restart let it idle for a minute, too.

    If the auto tranny isn't shifting smoothly, I'd flush the ATF. I would actually do this every 30k miles regardless.

    -juice
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    You can simply disconnect the negative battery terminal for 30 minutes to reset the ECU, but I'm not sure if that will do anything to the shift points on the 4EAT. I'm going to guess that part of when it shifts is determined by a preset map that's in some type of non-volatile memory that won't be affected by a fuse/battery reset.

    Ken
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,931
    I agree that by and large oem tires are a compromise, sometimes worse than that they are about the cheapest circle of rubber they can find to hold air.
    unfortunately the decisions as to what is installed at time of assembly are made by the bean counters and the bottom line is the God Almighty dollar, a dollar or two saved on a $25,000 car may not seem like much but multiplied by the number of cars made it is a fortune. however and this is not a plug for Honda because I have owned hondas for many years, on the 2,000 model Accord they install michilin MXV4 tires,I needed tires in the fall and I knew I would be selling the car come spring so I did want to lay out a lot of money on tires, I found a set of MXV4 at a really good price I would recommend these tires to anybody wet grip is phenomenal smooth and quiet on the highway and pretty impressive in snow they are not a high performance tire they are h rated but perfectly adequate for what most of us use our cars for.
    Cheers Pat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Fair enough, but Firestone tires aren't exactly the cheapest. They're about mid-pack.

    Some Tauri use Ameri-GS something or other. Now those are cheap!

    -juice
  • subie1subie1 Posts: 4
    I bought a 2001 Outback 5 weeks ago and am really happy with the car. Driving through the coldest and snowiest New England winter I can remember for some time, I am glad that I choose this AWD wagon over a Passat. The car is incredibly sure footed on snow and ice, reminding me of my old '86 Toyota 4X4 pickup but without the awful ride, spartan amenities, and uncomfortable seats. I am wondering, however, about the routine service schedule. I checked Subaru's web site and the owners manual and the service which is described is fairly typical of Japanese designed vehicles, fluids, plugs, inspections, timing belt at around 90,000 (a bit longer than Honda and the rest). There is a dealer located across the street from where I work and I was shocked to see that his service pricing was right up there in BMW league. Does $585 at 30K and 60K and $850 at 90K (timing belt) sound out of line, or are these reasonable charges? When I asked the service manager why so high he told me that they recommend changing the AFT every 30K. I did not see this in the factory schedule, only a brake fluid flush.
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,931
    never did like firestone tire after the infamous firestone 500 junk of some years ago and I don;t think they learned anything from that experience their tires are still junk.
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Pat, what do you think of the SO2s? I have some firehawks on my XT6 which are decent.

    -mike
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Depends on what they do at the 30k service.

    I did this myself for under $100 in supplies from QSubaru. My tranny is a manual, though. I did the fuel filter, air filter, oil and oil filter, PCV valve, fuel additive, but not the plugs or plug wires.

    At 60k, I'll probably change the manual trans fluid, the rear diffy fluid, and get an alignment and tune-up (besides the obvious stuff). I'll still probably do all except the alignment myself.

    I'm on the 7.5k mile oil change interval, and mine's been running fine.

    -juice
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Definitely better inspect the timing belt at 60k. Can be done in half an hour... less than 10 minutes with air tools.

    -Colin
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,931
    Mike I own an 89 Accord lxi lowered one and half inchs now going to my daughter but thats another story.
    any way over the years i have lost count of the styles of wheels and tires on this car. I have no experience with the SO2s but I did with firehawks first set the belts shifted after about 10,000 kilometres replaced under warranty 2nd.setrubber separates on sidewall 2tires one on left front other on right rear after this swore off firestone forever.this car is strictly a summer car so I always run summer tires I have been well pleased with good year eagle GTs, at present I have pirelli 6,000 sport veloce 205 55 VR15 on American Eagle Rims and I am well plesed in terms of performance and price, Michelin pilots are highly rated but expensive and more suited to more exotic machinery than what I own.
    Cheers Pat
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    can vary from dealer to dealer as well. Ask them to do only what the manual advises. My former dealer charged $425 for the 30k because of unnecessary add-ons. I found another dealer that charges $315 because they go "by the book".
    Dennis
  • Elliot:

    My local Subaru dealer (Libertyville, IL) charges $535 for all 30k interval services. A few non-book items are included in this price such as replacing windshield wiper inserts and use of a rental car while the service is being done. I think the hourly rate at the dealership is $68.

    Hope this helps.

    Don
  • texsubarutexsubaru Posts: 242
    I'd have to look up my receipt, but I know I paid nowhere near $585 for the 30K service at the dealership for my Forester. It did seem quite steep to me, though, so it was over $100; I'm thinking it was probably somewhere in the $200-$300 range.
  • subie1subie1 Posts: 4
    Thanks for all of the responses. Sounds like the dealer is padding the bill by adding a lot of stuff. Does anyone know how often the Automatic Transmission Fluid should be changed? This dealer recommended every 30K which sounds extreme. I would guess 60 or 90K, depending on the type of driving.

    Elliot
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    How's the tranny performing? Are shifts smooth, or do you feel a clunk? Any slipping?

    60k is probably fine, but if any odd symptoms pop up, I'd do it sooner.

    -juice
  • dannykadannyka Posts: 115
    My dealer said they went "by the book" and charged $295.

    -Dan
  • i have a 2001 subaru forester L. have 2600 miles on it in 4 months of ownership. i have been to the dealer on 3 occasions since new, each time because the cel has come on. each time they said code p0440,(leak in evap system)plus on the last visit found vent control solenoid for evap system bad. they replacedsolenoid and cleared codes. light back on again today. any suggestions? have another appointment tomorrow. vehicle runs fine but going to the dealer every two to three weeks is a real pain.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    That is a pain.

    There are all kinds of hoses that need to seal to keep gas vapors from polluting the air. They're under the hood, even under the passenger side rear, underneath where you pump in gas.

    Make sure they check all these seals, and ask them to replace the hoses if necessary.

    FWIW, a leak in that system will not harm performance or your engine, so the CEL in this case is just trying to prevent pollution (OBDII).

    -juice
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