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  • joseph50joseph50 Posts: 235
    I never heard of Z chains, but I just learned something from

    What do you think, juice, are those described clearances feasible for a Forester?

  • ffsteveffsteve Posts: 243
    On the subject of removal of catalytic converters, I'll offer my opinion: Don't do it. I live in So. California and have seen the improvement in air quality over the last 30 years - yes, I'll say improved! While driving through LA is never pleasant, it used to be a lot worse with immediate fumes on the highway from all the vehicles, and the visible smog in the air from all sources. Now the air is still smoggy, but not as oppressive as I remember (I'll admit to possible selective memory, but this is my opinion) and the breathable quality at road level is also much better. Legal or illegal, we all have to answer to our own conscience, and on something like this I won't hold your decision against you.

    The B210 is not necessarily a dog, but I couldn't resist the heading. We also had one in our family, and I learned to drive a manual transmission in it. What a lightweight, really easy to drive car! It had little power, but the highway speed limit was 55 (most people drove only 60) and I had no business driving faster anyway. I remember flooring the gas, and well, nothing much happened except the car gained speed at a leisurely pace.

  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,922
    Some clunkers will always be just clunkers the trick is to Know the difference obviously I don,t.

    In My past life in Ireland I owned a 49 and a 50 A40 worth between 2,000 and 5,000 pounds now depending on condition, One 54 A40 in the same price range, also had two Morris minors and they are also fetching good money these days.

    I also had various other clunkers that would still be clunkers if they were around today.

    Cheers Pat.
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    Is it me, or is Edmunds acting wacky today?


    "The first U.S. Subaru is a 360 Mini. This small rear wheel drive car had a 2-stroke, 25 horsepower 356 cc engine (thus the 360 name), weighed under 1000 pounds, got 66.3 mpg and cost $1,297. "


  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Bingo - they call them Z-type cable chains. That's what I was talking about. Those ought to fit, but not the bigger, traditional ones.

    On the 360, the price and mileage would be good! :-)

  • anibalbanibalb Posts: 193
    Hello Folks,

    Had Subaru put on the shims and voila! No more squealing! I also muted the horn signal that turns on and off the alarm. It was too loud of a beep. Question, if I turn on my alarm and then I mess with the car it does not set off the alarm. The only thing that sets it off is if you open the door. Is that normal???
  • anibalbanibalb Posts: 193
    When having the shims put on I asked service Mgr. if he recommended any synthetics. His reply was that Subaru does not recommend ANY synthetics. "Subaru doesn't condemn them but they don't recommend them either."

    In any event, I just replaced my engine oil at 9K and used Mobil 1 synthetic 10-30. Also, changing the oil with that Fumoto valve is great. Too bad that the filter is such a messy ordeal. And finally, I am amazed that my dealer charged me $8 bucks for an oil filter.

    I used the synthetic so I feel that I can definitely go 7500 miles between changes. But, do I still have to change the filter every 3K miles? What good is good oil and a dirty filter? Opinions welcomed.

  • rplumrplum Posts: 48
    Punch a hole in the bottom of the oil filter and drain with that. Works pretty good, you still may spill a little, but it's greatly reduced.....

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Here's the link to SCC Chain:

    They make a variety of traction devices. I own the Shur Grip Z cables for my Forester and have used them with no problems. If you read through the manual, it tells you to use chains on the front wheels only.


  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Your alarm should have a shock sensor as well. Try this -- sit in your vehicle and arm the vehicle while you're in it. Give the steering wheel a nice firm hit with the palm of your hand. The alarm should sound if it's been calibrated properly. If not, there should be a knob on the alarm CPU to adjust the sensitivity.

  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    I think the proper term is "brain". No idea why, but if you ever need to have any work done at a car audio / security shop, call it a brain and they know what you're talking about.

    oh btw Ken, no luck on the stock shifter. sifted around in the garage a bit this evening and nope... it was 'wifed'. she must have figured that the kartboy would never break (it won't) and I'd never want to replace it (I don't!). sorry dude.

  • anibalbanibalb Posts: 193
    Kens thanks. But where is this alarm CPU located?
  • joseph50joseph50 Posts: 235
    A clarificatin, please. You said you use the Shur Grip Z cables, and the manual says use chains on the front tires only. Are you equating or distinguishing cables and chains? (Should I order a set of two cables, or four?)
  • mikezakmikezak Posts: 95
    I too, just went with the Fumoto value & Mobil 1 with my 01 OBW. I did it at the 10K mark.

    Regarding your dealer's comment with synthetics, I truly believe it is who you talk to -- all they offer are their 'opinions'. For example, when I was shopping around for my Outback, one dealer said that he has a customer who buys a Subaru every 2-3 years, and at the first oil change, replaces the dino oil with Mobil 1. The dealer who I eventually brought my OBW from offers a Mobil 1 oil change -- abeit @ $50 -- yikes.

    With the broader experience you will find here and at other Subaru newsgroups, I was reassured that many people have used and use it, and have gotten many miles with their Subs without any problems from it...
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Colin: No prob. Thanks for checking anyway!

    Anibalb: In my Forester, the alarm "brain" (thanks, Colin) located under the dash near the steering column. I'm not 100% sure where it is on your OB. Does anyone here know? Maybe the dealer can help you.

    Joe: Cables and chains are technically both traction devices. Although the manual states "chains" it's really calling for a traction device. The difference between the two are durabilility, ease of use/size and level of traction.

    Chains typically are more tricky to put on although there are some fancy European models that are little easier. Because chains are bulkier, they are more durable and usually offer more grip. The biggest issue with chains is clearance. Many passenger vehicles don't have enough space around the tire to allow for a chain.

    Cables are more compact and are usually a lot easier to put on. However, they don't offer quite the high level of traction as chains. My Shur Grip Zs go on super easy because they have a self-tightening feature. No need to stop and check for proper fit after 100ft.

  • sibbaldsibbald Posts: 106
    In Canada, our vehicles come with the cold weather package rather then the factory alarm. I had the dealer install the factory alarm after purchase and kept their Subaru technican's installation instructions.

    With regards to the Shock Sensor Test,

    1. Lower the driver's side window then close all doors.

    2. Depress the LOCK/DISARM button on the remote to enter the armed mode.

    3. Wait 5 seconds, then reach through the window and lightly strike the rim of the steering column
    (DO NOT hit the horn or AIR BAG!) and the following should be observed:

    a. The horn will chirp 2 times.
    b. The parking light will flash 2 times.

    NOTE: This is the shock sensor warning mode. For light vibration and/or impacts, only warning chirps are delivered.

    4. Wait 10 seconds, then again reach through the window and firmly strike the rim of the steering column and the alarm should trigger.

    NOTE: If the shock sensor sensitivity is too high or low, the sensitivity may be adjusted by following the procedure section 1.

    anibalb - If after testing your alarm, you want to adjust it, check my profile and E-mail me. I will scan the pictures of the module installation and the instructions on how to adjust the shock sensor.


  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    That would make me guess that the OB factory alarm is also mounted on the steering wheel. Try looking up under your dash -- it's probably tucked away in there.

  • sibbaldsibbald Posts: 106
    is mounted on the passenger side of the car radio bracket. Gearshift cover, tray, ashtray and centre console cover need to be removed along with the radio, C.D. etc. to access it.

    Actually looks easier in the manual than it sounds.

    The starter interrupt and horn relay is located under and to the right of the steering wheel column behind the dash panel.

  • sibbaldsibbald Posts: 106
    The starter interrupt and horn relay is located under and to the LEFT (drivers side) of the steering wheel column behind the dash panel.

    If you are giving me directions while driving, just point - it works! :~}

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