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Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions

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  • p0926p0926 Posts: 4,423
    Well as I said, there were multiple factors:

    a. He'd been awake for 30 hours so his reactions were no doubt slowed
    b. He'd had at least one drink, which further slowed his reactions and impaired his judgment
    c. He was driving in unfamiliar surroundings
    d. It was dark
    e. He was talking on his cel phone

    Except for the fact that he was talking on his cel phone, I would have readily believed that he had simply fallen asleep at the wheel. However, the cel phone pretty much rules that out. Given that his car wasn't out of control, what other logical explanation is there for running head-on into another vehicle?

    -Frank P.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    You forgot the main factor - he's an EEJIT for doing all those things in the first place.

    -juice
  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,732
    My momma din't raise no eejits... Creep Show??

    Steve
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    Don't want to start a new thread here, but, I believe it is a matter of concentration priority. You can talk on the phone and drive as long as your attention is on driving. "Drives" my wife crazy, because sometimes she has to tell me something twice since using the phone is always second to me driving the car. Not true for all.

    Greg
  • ballisticballistic Posts: 1,687
    "Don't want to start a new thread here, but, I believe it is a matter of concentration priority. You can talk on the phone and drive as long as your attention is on driving."

    Well, depending on the driver's skill and experience. Zillions of relatively inexperienced teenage drivers have cellphones, and most of them THINK they're already great drivers - but they clearly are not yet. Their chronic overconfidence leads them to THINK that they can drive 1-handed, talk on the cellphone, yak with passengers, and listen to rap at 150dB, and do it all without endangering anyone. No way, Jose.

    As for the guy these messages are about, he may technically not have been asleep, but trying to drive and use a cellphone after 30 hours without sleep is not conducive to concentrating on anything.
  • jfljfl Posts: 1,347
    Steve, I think we have too much time on our hands...
    Jim
  • retnavretnav Posts: 25
    The cell phone accident raises a whole host of nasty problems. Here we are driving nicely engineered cars which for the most part makes driving a pleasure, but within an instant you can be killed because of somone's thoughtlessness.
            There is a recent California study which reports that of a large number of inattention to driving accidents in that state only ten percent were attributed to cell phone use. This would make it seem that cell phone usage is not as dangerous as some would make out. Nevertheless, I have watched drivers use these phones when I have been a passenger and I contend you can't dial a phone and drive -----at least not safely.
              My wife and I both have cell phones and I always pull over and stop before using the phone.
              Our accident driver ended up killing a lady and injuring the other occupants of her car. I hope he gets 30 years to life, but I'll bet he doesn't, and all the care we try to take in maintaining these Subarus ends up just being the luck of the draw.
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,924
    Had a close call today, the oil line broke to my auxillary oil pressure gauge, I noticed a grey haze behind me on the interstate, but thought nothing of it.

     It was only when we slowed to exit on an offramp that It registered that the haze was from the Titan because of oil getting on the hot exhaust.

      I lost over 2 Quarts of oil by the time we stopped, still had oil pressure so no damage but it could have been so easily a major repair.

       Cheers Pat.
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    whew, close call. what type of line broke? braided steel usually doesn't...

    -Colin
  • c_hunterc_hunter Posts: 4,487
    That was a close one, Pat! And here you probably thought you were doing a good thing by installing an oil pressure gauge... and it damn near cost you an engine!

    Craig
  • At 35,000 mi my front rotors warped. Others sem to have gotten them replaced but factory rep here in Salem, OR wouldonly authorize a turning. Had it done but now at about 52,000 miles they are shaking again. When cool there is no problem but after many hours on the freeway the steering wheel really shakes badly. Have requested dealer get the rotors replaced this time as I do have the Gold plus extended warranty. They are going to contact Subaru rep again to see if he will OK it. I am very easy on the brakes. Still have lots of pad left at 52,000 miles on original pads. Any suggestions on how to convince them to replace the rotors instead of just turning them again?

    Warren
  • francophilefrancophile Posts: 667
    I've had mine cut twice so far, once under warranty and once on my own. The brakes still work fine.

    Regards,
    -wdb
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    Unless SoA has changed their stance in the past year or so, they do not recommend turning the rotors. The rep should ok new rotors, but call SoA to see what they say.

    -Dennis
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,924
    The line that broke was copper, but I had been careful to wind anti vibration coils on it when I installed it.

      Needless to say it is disconnected until I find a safer way to install it again.

      And yeah Craig just goes to show what can happen even when you think you are doing the right thing.

      Cheers Pat.
  • snowbeltersnowbelter Posts: 286
    I posted in Subaru Problems and Solutions, #1509, about Subaru turning my rotors at 17k on my 02 VDC. They gave me written policy from SOA that said up to two turnings ok before any rotor replacment and not to turn rotors if just replacing pads. I have Gold Plus Extended warranty and it excludes rotor coverage (I believe). Let us all know if your Gold Plus warranty covers rotors. Subaru seems to think rotors are a maintenance item after 3/36 and that numbers of Subie owners reporting warping is not excessive. I suggested that since Subaru is adding wear to my rotors when they turn then, they ought to extend the warranty to cover the excess wear they caused by turning.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Wow Pat, good thing you caught it. I've heard of brake lines breaking on Jeeps going off road, but that's about it.

    -juice
  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,732
    Lucky for you it broke on the engine side of the firewall, rather than under the dash. You would have known it earlier, but imagine the mess!

    Think of it as additional chassis rust proofing.... ;-)

    Steve
  • john284john284 Posts: 71
    I called 1800subaru3 for a problem with the dealer while the car was at the dealership for a cold clutch shudder problem. After paying $45 for a road test, I found my car shaking and shifter is really loose. Do you think they were mad enough to mess my car up(how do they do it)? It definitely feels different now. I have second thought now about leaving the car with manual transmission to anyone with a pontential abusiveness. By the way, Juice, can you tell me how to adjust the shifter (tighten)?

    I dont have to mention the name of the dealership, but if the matter got worse, I would let everyone know so you wont get screwed.
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    is there another dealer you can bring your car to? There are big differences between dealers. You did the right thing about calling Subaru.

    Greg
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    My point being, here in NY we have a hands free law. I agree with the law, you need your "hands free" to operate the car. However, I also feel that even with the hands free kits people do not concentrate on driving. They are too caught up in their conversations to notice the brake lights in front of them. This can also be said for other distractions such a fixing hair, giving the baby sitting behind them their bottle, spilling coffee, etc.

    Greg
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    I was told Subaru will turn if first (once?) and then replace if still a problem. Recently, they wouldn't cover my warped rotors now that I have 42K on the car. The dealer tried to work with me saying they would give me new rotors in the back and turn the front if just pay for the turning. I politely turned it down and decided I will go with aftermarket. I plan on calling Subaru to let them know.

    Greg
  • erics6erics6 Posts: 684
    Warren,

    I've had my front & rear rotors turned. No shaking while braking but I still get shaking in the steering wheel while driving at highway + speeds. Tires have been balanced numerous times and two alignments have been done.

    Do you feel the shaking only while you are braking, or all of the time? When my front rotors warped you could feel it through the brakes. The shaking occurs while you are in motion. No connection to being on the brakes or gas.

    -Eric
    Portland, OR
  • My vibration is really noticeable when running gear is HOT after many hours of freeway running.The faster I am going the more violent the shake. Feels like a shimmy in the front end and the steering wheel rocks or vibrates. This only happens when pushing brake pedal. At slow speed or when rotors are cool its not noticable. This occured awile back and when front rotors were turned the shake went away. Even more noticable when weather is hot too.

    Warren
  • bat1161bat1161 Posts: 1,784
    Question for all:

    My dealer is doing a "special" on an oil flush. It's all part of an oil change, and they say it extends the life of the engine as well as improves mileage. Has anyone ever heard of this, and is it worth while or os it just a method of their making $$ on an oil change?

    Mark
  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    I wouldn't get the rotors turned also. It almost always results in warpage again, but sooner. I've always wondered if there are some other factors other than driving style and lug-nut torque that affect rotor warpage. It just seems like some folks just tend to warp rotors more often.

    The oil flush sounds like an opportunity for the dealer to fatten their margin. If you have been changing your oil on a regular schedule, I'd skip it.

    Ken
  • erics6erics6 Posts: 684
    Sounds like replacement rotors might be the solution.
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    My limited knowledge would lead me to believe that it would an oil flush would be beneficial for a high mileage engine with a lot of sludge.

    A while back I spoke with Ed Barry (shop foreman) about synthetic oil. He said that boxer engines don't develop sludge as bad as other engines.

    I'm going in Saturday. Do you have an appointment soon (assuming this is Flemington)?

    -Dennis
  • bat1161bat1161 Posts: 1,784
    Dennis,

    Actually I am dropping it off tonight. I'm having them check out a couple of things that they want to keep it over night. Since I repalced the battery almost 3 weeks ago, the engine keeps revving at around 2500-3000 RPMs when I start up after it sits for several hours. Also, the blower some times doesn't switch from vent to defroster, or to floor. Just little things that would take too long on a Sat.

    Maybe they'll have an XT for a test drive?

    Mark
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Warren--

    what are the highways like in your neck of the woods? (you've got nothing in your profile, so I have to ask.)

    around here in Kansas, brakes actually are stone cold on highway trips because they're never ever used. if you have anything at all similar, then I suspect you've got something else going on AND warped rotors. tire balance & runout would be the first thing I'd check, followed by wheel bearings --which should be making a lot of noise, kind of a roar, if they're failing.

    -Colin
  • jay_24jay_24 Posts: 536
    I'll agree with Colin. I just replaced a rear wheel bearing in our mini-van. I thought it was brakes. It made a roar noise that was a bit worse when turning (shifting the weight to that wheel). It was also worse and shaked a bit when braking.

    --jay
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