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  • I'm in for both. Wanna control it and make sure I'm doing it right at the same time... striving for the perfect OCD.

    bit
  • armac13armac13 Posts: 1,129
    that's not bad!! You are well on your way.

    Ross

    P.S. With your qualifications you could hire on as a consultant. Interested?
  • anibalbanibalb Posts: 193
    Hey guys,

    I just had a few laughs reading this OCD thread. Great stuff. I thought that I was the only perfectionist. Boy am I wrong. I like the idea of taking the pan out every oil change. Mybe I should try it. Here is an idea. Let's make disposable cars. 3k and get a new one! Taking the engine out of the car to do an oil change.......ha ha ha.

    Now here is a true story. It took me 8 hours to do an oil change on a VW Rabbit once. I remember everyone making fun of me especially the manager at the autoparts store. A few years later he told me that he ran into the same problem as he was working on someone elses VW. I laughed so hard!

    What happens is that there is no room and we had to take out everything to tear the filter apart because the moron who put it in last did not wet the rubber seal with oil!!!! How is that for a laugh.
  • miksmimiksmi Silver Spring, MDPosts: 1,246
    Wanna control it and make sure I'm doing it right at the same time hehe I had to add that one to my profile.

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • pattim3pattim3 Posts: 533
    this before, but....watch out for "lifetime" warranty deals. Our pads had a good mix between soft and hard. Hard pads make more noise and can have an effect on the rotors. We have some noisy pads, but it is kind of mid-range between too soft and too hard. Other vehicles (Mercedes I think) us a soft pad that is very quiet, but requires frequent changing. Ah, science- Harder pads have more vibration and really hit the rotors causing more noise. But, they won't wear too fast. I guess it is up to the individual how much noise they will tolerate. They will last, however.

    Patti
  • leomortleomort Posts: 451
    if hard brake pads are rougher on the rotors than I'd rather stay away from them. Can get two pads replaced for the cost of one rotor.

    Leo
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Are known to go through brakes rather quickly on late models. My dad's '97 goes through them every 10-15K, my cousin's OB goes through them ever 15-20K. My '97 rodeo went almost 40K on the rears, and 65K on the fronts! Go figure. I usually buy the best brake pads I can get my hands on @ the local shop. usually semi-metallic, since my driving usually warrents good brakes and good tires!

    -mike
  • bluesubiebluesubie Posts: 3,497
    Leo - regarding aftermarket pads, ask the others since I've never ventured there. Try the "mods" section.

    Greg - The goofballs that worked on my car at Meineke didn't know how to take off my OBS wheel covers. In black writing it says, "Turn this way --->" (or something like that). The manager came to me and said, it's taking a long time because there's about a hundred screws on the wheel cover. I had to go in the garage and show them how to do it. It took me 2 seconds and they were working on it for an hour. When I picked up the car they didn't even tighten them properly. I went back and raised a little sand (the manager didn't want to be bothered because he was eating lunch) and they eventually had to find another OBS and switch the wheel covers.

    Dennis
  • armac13armac13 Posts: 1,129
    My VW Golf went through them with great appetite. In 100k km. (60k miles) I went through 2 complete sets of pads, the third set was well worn and the rotors were in need of their second replacement. Most of the driving was in the city, but it was a 5 speed and I drive very conservatively. By contrast, when I had my 10k km. oil change I was told the pads on my '01 Forester S auto were 5% worn. I realize that I'm not going to get 200k out of the set, but the wear is likely to be much better than on the Golf. I should also point out that Rufus's brakes have been totally silent to date.

    Ross
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    Juice - Never thought of using a diaper. Do you use new or used ones? ;) Actually, I buy those bags of plastic gloves at home depot. Don't like getting finger prints on the engine or new oil filter! hmm,,,,,wonder if I can use those gloves with diaper changes?

    Dennis - I really appreciate finding a shop or dealer that takes pride in their work. Maybe we should all open one up.

    -Greg
  • pattim3pattim3 Posts: 533
    Our pads have a 12/12 wear item warranty. If you family is going through that many, maybe someone should take a look at them. Are the calipers hanging up? Who's doing the work. If they are resurfacing the rotors are they using an on the car lathe?

    Let me know? That is WAY to frequent for brake pads.

    Thanks
  • locke2clocke2c Posts: 5,038
    Maybe they drive in heavy traffic often and brake hard... and late. ;-)

    -Colin
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    It's not the cost of the pads, it's the labor to put them on.

    Gloves to avoid finger prints on the engine? Bit, you've got some serious competition for OCD King!

    My Forester is still on the original brake pads (36k miles). They're quiet, too. My dad's squeek a little first thing in the morning.

    -juice
  • miksmimiksmi Silver Spring, MDPosts: 1,246
    If they are resurfacing the rotors are they using an on the car lathe?

    When rotors are removed from the car, what tool is used for resurfacing? Is it easier to perform a quality resurfacing off the car (i.e., not using an on the car lathe)?

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,925
    Did you ever think about auditioning as a standup comedian? on a serious note when I am going to wash the car first thing, I push It out of the garage because I don;t want to start it back it out and shut It off, I just re- read this post I think I need help. Ha!Ha!
    Cheers Pat.
    PS. I was not joking about the pushing part.
  • miksmimiksmi Silver Spring, MDPosts: 1,246
    Pushing cars keeps you young, Pat! I don't push but I'm with you, I hate starting and stopping the engine within a minute. I can almost hear condensation munching on the exhaust as soon as the motor stops turning.

    ..Mike

    ..Mike

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Resurfacing is easier off the car, but better and more accurate with an on-car lathe.

    Maybe Patti can elaborate. She saw a nice brake job demo recently.

    -juice
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,925
    The damage to the exhaust is the least of it, it is the damage to the motor that concerns me, it is at startup when the most wear occurs, and a lot of starts and stops like that can take literally years off the life of your motor.
    Cheers Pat.
  • miksmimiksmi Silver Spring, MDPosts: 1,246
    I forgot about that minor detail. Thanks.

    ..Mike

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Ditto on the pads. I'm at 52K miles, original pads, no squeeks.

    Ken
  • anibalbanibalb Posts: 193
    You guys,

    You make me laugh!!! Pushing cars??? Diapers and gloves. Gees. What is next the surgical mask??? Ha ha ha. I thought I was bad. Are there any meetings with club members out in CA??? I am curious. They are having a meeting in MD today to install brakes. That is cool. Anything out West??? Just curious. Later guys.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    We easterners tend to gather regularly. There is a brake job tonight, then a meet at Dave & Busters once again tomorrow. There are casual gatherings like that almost every week.

    Then we're also close to the SCOA president Garry. He's in PA so we're close enough to attend those meets.

    Throw in the track days, MASC's rally cross schedule (quarterly at least) and we're sitting pretty.

    Check out i Club - I'm sure there is a local chapter, and I bet they could benefit from a little more diversity. Folks are always curious to see my Forester.

    -juice
  • Yeah, I do the push thing.... even with my Stude pickup. Unfortunately the Soob has to stay on the driveway as the Stude and Datsun 1600 get the garage. But I have a cover for the Soob. So once it gets washed the cover goes on and then I be my wife to let me use her si for errands...

    bit
  • paisanpaisan Posts: 21,181
    Well my dad went quickly on the first set of OEMs, and then midas (which we know the owners of) for the rest are all around 10K miles. Mixed city and highway. I mostly attributed them to small brakes on the '97L. I did the last set on the front, cause I was upstate using my dad's '97L and told him "hey dad, I didn't realize you needed brakes til I was @ 110mph" to which he responded "I guess I'm lucking out and you are doing the pads in the front!" So I put on the best ones I could get @ the local pep-boys and we'll see how they last. So far so good.

    -mike
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    Question: My future sub will be in a heated garage (yeah, I know - keeps the rear end warm when changing the oil, wiping the engine, using diapers and gloves.....and.....surgical mask). Anyway, is there some kind of law against this considering Subaru is known for it toughness, all weather, go anywhere rep? Just wondering :)

    -Greg
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,925
    Patti, I have just bought a 2001 GT wagon and I would like to put on aftermarket cross drilled rotors, my problem is the dearth of performance stuff for the Legacy at least here in Ottawa Canada. The performance shops here only have a listing up to 1999, the parts people at the two Subaru dealers here tell me that the brakes on the 99 GT are the same size as the 2001GT but the part #s are different but again I am told they will interchange, I have read somewhere that the2001 got bigger brakes, so I thought I would go to the source and ask for your help in getting the relevant information also is it possible there is any difference between the brakes on Canadian and US. models I can;t see it but I thought I would ask. You can either reply to me here I am sure there are others who would be interested in the reply Or feel free to e-mail at subefriek@aol.com if anyone else has pertinent information to this query please feel free to reply also.
    Cheers Pat.
  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,925
    Well guys I have to say I just love this car,surprising how quickly you get spoiled, after only three weeks I would not give up my heated seats at any price they are just awesome on my poor aching back. I am contantly amazed at how smooth and quiet this car is, I have no problem with squeaky brakes although I took pains at the beginning to properly season the pads and rotors, whether this had made a difference or not I am sure, time will tell. If I do experience squeaking I will post it. I thought it would take a long time to win my heart after my beloved Honda wagon but this has been love at first sight,(I almost feel like I am being unfaithful here)I am looking forward to many happy years with this car, incidently my long suffering wife who has almost zero interest in cars (despite living with a certifiable car nut all these years) loves this car about as much as I do.
    Cheers Pat.
  • sibbaldsibbald Posts: 106
    II have to share this with you. Just received a recall notice from Subaru Canada for my 1997 Outback to do with the alternator. This recall involves 1996 through 1998 Subaru Legacy vehicles and involves the loss of voltage regulation due to a broken brush wire. They want to replace the regulator which is a good thing!

    Anyway, I traded in my 97 Outback for a 2000 Outback at the dealer sixteen months ago. On this form, they advise that if you have changed your home address or sold your Subaru, please complete the "change of address" postcard located in your glove box and mail to us.

    1 - If I had changed my address, and not notified them, I would not have received the recall notice.
    2 - If I had sold the car, which I did, the glove box would not exist in my driveway.

    O.K., have I missed something here or is this just an interesting request?

    Cheers, Tom

    p.s. Ross, I have always considered myself anal retentive, is that better or worse then OCD?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    I think a heated garage is OK. The tough stuff comes when you leave the garage, not while in it.

    Pat: the 2001 Legacys all got 0.7" bigger front brake discs. I doubt they are interchangeable. Since they have only been out for 6 months, there may not be aftermarket ones yet.

    -juice
  • armac13armac13 Posts: 1,129
    that depends upon you aspirations (ouch - unintentional pun, but I'll keep it). It's a step in the right direction if you think OCD is next to godliness. Perhaps you might want to sign up for the workshop. :-)

    Ross
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