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Subaru Crew Problems & Solutions



  • rob_mrob_m Somewhere North of BostonPosts: 795
    I lost the front bumper cover/air dam on my 99 GT to a tire tread on 95 a couple years ago. I paid to have it replaced. The replacement was almost exact. The paint literally peeled off on the first really hot day in the sun about 6 months after. Something to do with a prep step that was missed, the plastic degaussing and the paint letting go. Had to have it stripped and repainted. Sounds like a replacement to me.
  • lfdallfdal Posts: 679
    The newer plastic bumpers require both special prep and the right paint with additives to make for a lasting job, else you'll see exactly what you're describing. One of the complaints I had with my Forester is that the bumper paint was too soft.

    In this area, for R&R the bumper plus prep plus repaint is around 300.00, give or take.

  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    Don: make sure the tires pressures match. Sorry if that seems obvious. You could just drain and replace the gear oil in the rear diffy, it's 75w90 IIRC. About one quart.

    K9Leader: very, very likely a re-paint. If you know the original owner, many body shops do offer a lifetime guarantee, so they might re-do it for you.

    My '91 Escort re-paint peeled like crazy, even my '93 Miata has a couple of small spots that are peeling so I have to take it back to the body shop.

  • I can't believe that people are still screwing this up- are they trying to cut corners by not doing decent prep work? Are they cheaping out and not using the necessary paint additives?

    It's not like this type of bumper appeared yesterday; I had a 1972 Firebird with a rubber bumper- I used an additive when I repainted it. The paint never peeled off.

    These bumpers have been around for over 30 years now; why can't people seem to be able to paint them properly?
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    In the case of my Miata I think it was poor surface prep. The stuff is peeling off at the base of the doors, where water drains.

    With my Escort, it was just the clear coat peeling off.

  • zman3zman3 Posts: 857
    I thought I heard somewhere, totally unsubstantiated however, that the issue with paint nowadays is the EPA not allowing certain components due to pollution issues. Makes the painting process more difficult.
  • K9LeaderK9Leader Posts: 112
    Thinking about it some more, and taking confirmation from the posted comments, I concur that the front bumper is probably a repaint. Probably a replacement bumper taken from another OB where the titanium paint was just different enough (slightly different color and "grainier" or larger metallic flakes -- perhaps from an '01/02/03?) to need a repaint, and the repaint was not done properly.

    If the original owner will now admit to the replacement/repaint (and, therefore, acknowledging that he lied to me by withholding that info during the sale), I may be able to go to the shop that did the work, and maybe they will honor a guarantee. More likely, they will say there was no guarantee, or that it did not transfer when I bought the car, or that it was only good for X period of time (and, of course, it is now X+). Even beyond that, though, is that the original owner lives an hour away, so my dealing with whatever shop he used would be an almost long-distance affair. I'm not sure it is worth that headache.

    I have a shop locally that I trust, so I may take it there to see what they think, and see what it would cost to re-repaint this one (with appropriate prepping and stripping) as well as to paint a new one. Ah, another thing to add to the ever-expanding "To Do" list!

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Glad to know that the OB switched off the 9007s. My wife has them on her Jetta and they're horrid bulbs. The output and beam pattern are quite poor.

  • hondafriekhondafriek Ottawa CanadaPosts: 2,921
    Is the time of year I hate the most, the weather is warming up so the salt laden snow at the side of the road is melting, so every time you take the car out every nook and cranny is hit with salt laden spray.

    Add to this above freezing is when salt does its most deadly work on the car, you might just as well drive it in the sea for about a month each year.

      Cheers Pat.
  • ateixeiraateixeira Posts: 72,587
    What we need is a good rain to rinse this stuff off.

  • hypovhypov Posts: 3,068
    No Rain! Don't anyone wish for rain!... at least for this weekend.
    The weather will look warm enough to wash/rinse Pebbles this Sunday.

  • rangnerrangner Posts: 336
    Where the only salt we use is on our food.

  • jfljfl Posts: 1,334
    If Dave is washing his car on Sunday, look for rain Monday or Tuesday. 8~O

  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,729
    OK, last week I promised my thoughts and comments on the Philip's Vision Plus bulbs (thanks to Ken S. for his lead on this).

    Background: '02 OBW w/ H1 lowbeams. This is a very simple two terminal single axial filament 55w bulb. US DOT regulations limit this to about 1350 lumins output, but European ECE rated bulbs of this form factor are apparently rated higher. But I have not been able to find an exact value for this. Also popular in Europe are so called +30% and +50% premium bulbs, available in this size. The Philips "Vision Plus" and the Sylvania/Osram "SilverStar" fall into this category, although one source says that the SilverStar sold in the USA (DOT compliant) is not the same as the ECE product that rates about the same as the Vision Plus.

    So far, I am impressed by the Vision Plus. It really seems to put more light out in all directions - out front as well as the sides. This is a criticism of the PIAA - yes they put more light down the road, but at the expense of side illumination. The majority of the glass is clear except at the very top, which has a blue filter. Overall the light is whiter.

    Philips & third party European web site claims up to 20 meters (65ft) more range over the standard ECE offering, which would translate to a big jump over DOT, and I think it is true. Now remember that this is not terribly scientific, as I have not gone back and forth between the two bulb types. But to put the perceived output into perspective, think of how the light changes when you go from 'daytime running lights' to 'headlights on'. I believe that a delta of this magnitude, or more, is what I have gained. I realize that I wasn't turning on my high beams as often, as their presence didn't make as big a difference on back country roads. The biggest delta was noticed on Tuesday night after it rained. I was getting good illumination off of the wet pavement, something I had not seen before. But I cannot comment on possible glare, as it was not actively raining at the time. There may be a downside to these bulbs that I have not experienced yet.

  • kenskens Posts: 5,869
    Told you they were good! :-)

    I personally haven't experienced any downside to these bulbs (no glare in rain either) except that they do have a shorter life.

    Did you notice that the beam cutoff is sharper? It's much more pronounced on my Forester.

  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,729
    Ken, the beam cutoff is indeed sharp, but it appears to be extended further out. I am still not sure why, because the cutoff should be a function of reflector design, as the filament placement in the overall scheme has not changed. Who knows - maybe a fraction of a millimeter +/- makes a big difference...

    I did find some data very interesting data at
    They indicate that ECE might be as much as 35% higher output over DOT. They also listed some specific bulbs results:

    "For the 55W marked segment, sorted in order of brightness:
    +50%: Philips Vision Plus (achieves its extra performance by increased luminance, not lumens. See this article: n.shtml)
    +30%: Philips Premium, Osram Silverstar (European marked only - see note below)
    +20%: Osram/Sylvania Xtra Vision, Osram/Sylvania Silverstar (North american marked only - see note below)
    +0%: Philips Bluevison, Osram/Sylvania Cool Blue, Osram/Sylvania Halogen Plus, and OEM bulbs like GE.
    -10%: PIAA Superwite"

  • toboggantoboggan Posts: 283
    Checked out the UK web site for the Phillips Vision Plus bulbs. The '98 Legacy(Outback?) requires the 9007 bulb. They did not separate out the Outback model. After some thought I'll probably order a pair and spare. I'm tired of having to strain these old eyes under some conditions. Gotta have some more light on the road without blinding oncoming traffic.

    Finally, after 5 days of clouds - and no snow - we saw the sun today. Finally a real 40 degrees. I'm ready for spring, even though I'm a skier.

  • stevekstevek Posts: 362
    of H1 and H3 bulbs for my 01 Legacy GT, they are the Hella yellow start bulbs, they should work in all weather conditions and my lights wont be blue or supper white like everyone else. Of course the metalic fick gold pin stripe and gold painted WRX rims will also make it look different. Oh and to brag just got a new set of Continetal Extreme Contact in 215/55vr16 size, they are great.
  • nygregnygreg Posts: 1,936
    I would like to follow suit and order a pair of the Vision Plus bulbs, but I don't see where they mention giving 3 for the price of 2. Also, the bulbs I found are "H1 Vision Plus 12V, 55W" with a cat number of "H1 12258VP". Is this the correct bulb?

  • fibber2fibber2 Mid Hudson Valley, NYPosts: 3,729
    You got it - that is the right item. There was a little pop-up that said they were shipping 3 for the price of two, I think thru end of March. I received a two pack, plus another single carded bulb.

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