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2003 Saab 9-3

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  • Drove it at Dirito in Walnut creek...i was told as well not to expect a car till early Nov..they had no idea what colors or options are coming..i told salesman my preference and he will call me if that setup was on first allotment.
    Steering wheel kinda like the cts..i have driven both but the saab was meatier and smaller..
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Are you in US or Belgium ? They are telling me cant do a ED just yet on theses models.

    Taz. comparied to my 3er, A4 ect.. the back seat looked more roomy, but i did not set back there, one thing i did not mention is the trunk was HUGE plus fold down seats...

    i never drove a cts, so im not sure . the wheel was nice and thick, it just seemed large in diameter.

    If the cars show up on the 11th, ill post what comes in.

    DL
  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    dl7265;

    Are you thinking about doing an ED? I am. I have heard that the Saab people are especially helpful. I've also heard Sweden is a great place to get some European driving experience in the new car before heading south to more crowded Germany and France. Have you heard anything positive/negative? Thanks.
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    yes i am. But depends on the time frame. if its not available til next year that might be too late. of course the BMW ED is very popular and a great savings. I cant find on Saab what the discount is. used to be if i recall a discount and 2 free tickets, that may have changed though.
    if i hear more ill let you know.

    DL
  • GBrianKGBrianK Posts: 211
    Little different setup for the North American market. Linear is out now with the 175hp engine. Arc and Vector out in Spring with with Arc's 210hp engine. Spring of 2004, the Vector will get its own engine. Reportly, Vector will be getting a 250hp engine. That is what I am waiting for.

    I am interested to see how things turn out. Here in North Dallas, Saabs are still a little scarce so it is nice to be original. But, I have test driven a 330i and must say they are nice. The throw on the manual is a little long, but is smooth. I guess we will see how things turn out in 2004. Later y'all!
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    I just noticed Edmunds has invoice pricing , and no supprise there is not very much mark up at all. i guess due to the low starting price.

    Glenn your right, my 3er in Dallas is as common as a accord . I like the 9'3 styling myself.even though there is allmost no one posting here, my sales lady had a fist full of contact cards allready,

    DL
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
    You may have already noticed, but we're having a chat on Thursday, Oct. 17 with some reps from Saab USA to talk about the 2003 Saab 9-3. It'll be question & answer format, so it's a great opportunity to find out a bit more about the 9-3.


    Here's the link for details:

    http://www.edmunds.com/townhall/chat/saab93chat101702.html


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  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    Does anybody who has seen the 9-3 know what the EPA mileage numbers are? Preferrably for the manual tranny on the 175 hp model. Thanks.
  • gBrianK, that's interesting that you say they're scarce in North Dallas. The suburb of Addison (in North Dallas) uses Saab 900 turbos as their police cars! Or at least they did at one point.
  • This first 03 9-3 with 175hp/195tque has everything the arc and vector will have has minus the extra interior trim and the larger engine...when i saw it, i was impressed..im not a saab loyalist so the new styling points hit the mark for me...never liked the prev versions..european press has raved about this car..they are usually very critical so this was definitely a good thing...only hesitation is reliability and resale...anyone else drive it yet?
  • DL are you thinking of switching over to the SAAB?

    I saw one the other day here in SA. Very nice looking.

    Stacy
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    On the auto it was like 21-29 not bad, didnt see the 5 or 6 speed.

    Host, i have to work that day :( , will there be transcipts ?

    Addison Police: are in Dodge Durangos these days. makes me wonder why im in a Ford .....

    Linear launch : i agree its a nominal fee to move up to 210hp, most makes have a large gap just to go up in HP.

    Stacy, dont shoot at me yet :), You know i love my 3er, i am still disgusted over the huge price increase for 2003, so im looking at a few alternatives til i can do a ED. btw thanks for photos of "Pierce".really looks nice. Im really not fond of the new sedan lights, i prefer my car actually...

    DL
  • What a shame. They used to have such a reputation for the Saab police force.

    Of course in Europe, everything from Ford Mondeos to Saabs to BMW's are police cars.
  • I'm not going to shoot you...YET!!!

    Hey, I like the looks of the new 9-3 and the price is very nice. Have you driven one yet? If so, let me know what you think. I'd like to drive one just to see what they are like.

    As for the new lights on the sedan, I don't like them either. The lights on the coupe are much nicer. I'm glad I got an '02 instead of the '03. I might have a year old car now, but it has no miles on it. (I plan on keeping this one!!! I PROMISE) I just hit 1500 miles and I've been getting about 26mpg. Not to shabby.

    My husband and I are going on a "road trip" next week. We'll be taking his truck (02 Dodge Ram Quad Cab)(her name is Belle)up to Maine and back. Pierce will be sitting at home resting. ;o)

    Hey, it is finally cooling down...I can't wait to take the Miata out more. ;o)

    (Do I have too many cars?)

    Stacy
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Belive it or not Stacy this is the 1st time im down to one car ! so i am looking for a little more utility.

    Actually i did drive one of the 1st 93 they got in , in slush box version. For a fwd it was pretty nice, like i mentioned i Really like the wheel choices they have...

    I concured on your 02 Coupe looking the best i hope they dont screw the coupes look up now :(.

    Maine thats some road trip, i bet Pierce is jelous :).... im sure there are some nice twisties on the way,,, im going up to my cabin and then to okla this weekend myself, alli can say is

    Go SOONERS :)

    DL
  • dl - In Belgium, saab dealer two blocks away


    Vector with 250 hp should be sweet. I assume they'll take the 2.3t from the 9-5. I hope they make a new aluminum block and head (like they did with the 2.0t).
    On second thought the Hirsch upgrades to the 9-5 Aero could kick some serious [non-permissible content removed] in the the 9-3 (280 or 305 hp from the 2.3t)
    http://www.saab.com/main/GLOBAL/en/pressreleases.xml?id=1


    I'll let you know if/when the 250 hp comes out in europe.


    Here is a link for the European mileage numbers (in metric of course):

    http://www.saab.com/main/GLOBAL/en/environ_prod_93s.xml


    Those of you who drove it, can you feel the ReAxs?

  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    WOW 305hp in a fwd ? i bet thats exciting, im suprised a 0-60 of only 6.4 also. Looks like wont be comming over the pond for us anyways...

    ReAxs um no i didn't matter a fact i forgot til u mentioned it. Ill have to pay more attention on my next drive.

    thanks for the links..
    DL
  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    The complaints from Saab hard liners aside, appears GM has a sweet little success story simmering up in Sweden:


    http://www.saabnet.com/tsn/press/021006.html

  • logic1logic1 Posts: 2,433
    The launch success of the 9-3 per the linked report above is probably behind Saab's delay in getting the ED program going. I intend to take part in the Edmunds Town Hall meeting with the Saab people on the 17th. Maybe they can shed some insight.
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    Thanks Tom, i just got back in town , it will be interesting to see what they say. Like i mentioned according to Edmunds info there is not very much between invoice and msrp, a ED would be nice.

    DL
  • rghesselrghessel Posts: 122
    I just got a look at the new 9-3 (inside and out). Very nice. Thought the exterior was much more distinctive than the pictures led me to believe. Loved the inside (except the tacky fabric on the doors and the armrests, and the cheap plastic covering the handbrake). Other than that, the interior was quite elegant.

    I just wish the Navigation system, which is available in Europe, was going to be availble before 2004 here in the US...
  • robr2robr2 BostonPosts: 7,845
    ...the 9-3 last Thursday. I was pleasantly suprised by the room in the back seat. Saab did a nice job scooping out the front seatbacks to allow for more leg room in the rear. Loads of room up front. I'd like to compare this to the TSX when it comes out. Both look to be in the same price/performance area.

    I was suprised to see the sticker list Japan as the source of the transmission on the automatic. Not being a Saabista, I was wondering about that.
  • dl7265dl7265 Posts: 1,381
    What is a TSX ? :)

    DL
  • Local dealer has 4, not make that 3 new 9-3's. One was sold when I was there. One manual the rest were autos. Manual was a base with no options. All if the autos were with the launch package. The car looks very sharp. Had one in the Merlot color - awesome color. Looks very sporty. I might go this week and see if I can test drive one. If I were to get one I will wait for the Arc model. From my first impressions and the few reviews I have read I think Saab will have a winner with this one. In Europe apparently demand well exceeds supply. Looks forward to hearing from anyone who has driven one.
  • dudleyrdudleyr Posts: 3,447
    TSX is an Acura version of the European Accord.


    http://auto.ascii24.com/auto24/auto24.cgi?source=issue/2002/1011/npr_kt1011_03_03.html


    More info on TSX area of sedans board.

  • Black/Char every option for 32.8K-Linear launch..steering was sharp but just a little loose..off the line was quick and precise..there was an accident on the freeway so i couldnt blow it out but the little i did do put a smile on my face..love the green lighting, interior was sharp with high quality materials..i drive a 95 bmw now and its kinda weird but when i drove the saab, it felt like i was in my bimmer..i have never felt that way with any other car i test drove before even the 02 bimmers..i want one.
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
    Don't forget Thursday's Saab 9-3 chat, 5-6pm PT/8-9pm ET.


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    Here's the link for details:

    http://www.edmunds.com/townhall/chat/saab93chat101702.html


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  • I owned a Saab that had some unfortunate build quality issues...and it just kept running me between the mechanic and the cash machine.

    Are new models getting any better regarding repair costs?

    I know Saabs are still Saabs, but is the GM influence helping to reduce prices for parts and repair?

    Would love a new 9-3 (little high price for me ATM) but not sure if I would feel comfortable about the possible reliability/repair issues.

    Personally, I loved the last generation design, and this one looks cool too. I will miss the hatch though...that was one of the most unique and polarizingly beautiful cars on the roads. :)

    I just think at the price, it would be hard to overlook an S60, or 325, or A4.
  • rghesselrghessel Posts: 122
    I missed most of the townhall chat about the 2003 9-3 last night. Anyone able to summarize the interesting tidbits/info that was revealed?
  • Kirstie_HKirstie_H Posts: 10,890
    Well, I was there for the whole she-bang, and we got a lot of questions answered. The transcript of the chat should be up in a couple of days, and I'll be sure to post the link to it.

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