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BMW 5-Series Wagon 2004 Redesign

SylviaSylvia Posts: 1,636
edited March 23 in BMW


  • whothemanwhotheman Posts: 169
    is accurate. The front end is better looking than the 7. The 225HP six carries over, as does the 7's 325HP V8. The V10 comes for 2005 in the new M5. More rear legroom and trunk space.
  • verozahlverozahl Posts: 574
    I still don't like the new look.
  • whothemanwhotheman Posts: 169
    The new 5 looks more aggressive. It's not a GS430, but it's better. It's more aggressive than the new E-Class. And hopefully a stick/V8 combo stay in the mix!
  • ascarissascariss Posts: 11

    Read that, and decide for yourself if the new 5 will be good or not. Has Chris Bangle and his group of designers created a bad car?? I hope when the car comes out it won't suck, if BMW screws up this car, bangle will for sure get fired. The 5 series is the money maker for BMW and one of its best cars. Maybe the E39 will be the last best 5 series, maybe. Read the article and judge it.

  • The 7 series was bad enough, but the new Z4 is really atrocious! If that is any indication of BMW's future styling direction, it probably won't be long until Bangle is fired.
  • ascarissascariss Posts: 11
    Bangle has been on with BMW for about almost 10 years now, and will be there a bit longer. Until the BMW owner's, some family, decide to fire him, he still will work there. The only reason BMW will fire him, is if next year's BMW sales begin to fall, the look of BMW cars might have something to do with it, Bangle's toast.
  • Hi,
    Was going to get a 2003 530i, now I'm wondering if it's better to just wait the 6 months or so for the new re-designed 2004, or is the pre-launch date just a guesstimate?
    I wonder if getting the 2003 will make my car "old" already. I would've gotten a 2002 but finding a 530i that is NOT black, white, or silver is difficult in SoCal. I plan on keeping my car for a long
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    If you plan on "keeping your car for a long time," resale value becomes less important as a consideration. I wouldn't expect any earth-shattering changes for the '04 5-series: new styling (which is already generating skepticism and concern based on the new 7-series), iDrive, lighter suspension components, and some new luxury features/amenities. As for the drivetrain, the 540i will probably become the 545i, adopting the new V8 from the 745i. Word has it there'll be two 6-cylinders; the base will be either the current 3.0 inline-6 or a valvetronic version thereof, perhaps raising output 10-20 horsepower. And, what is already raising eyebrows among BMW loyalists, is a 3.8-liter twin-turbocharged inline-6 producing an eye-watering 380 horsepower. If they can minimize the turbo lag and keep it as tractable and linear as possible, that will be one sweet (and fast) ride.

    It's expected the new 5-series will debut in Europe in late summer/early fall next year, and in the US later in the fall/early winter (hence more than the six months you indicate). That said, given all the new technology (especially with unproven things like iDrive), I'd recommend against buying the '04 5-series. 7-series boards are full of people who've had major electronics problems with the new 745i.
  • Thanks Shahak for the info!
  • kdshapirokdshapiro Posts: 5,751
    Brake by wire and steer by wire? EVT? Cars are we know them are going fast and we won't even be able to open the hoods soon.
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    Not much new here, but I'll post anyway. From the 9/02 issue of European Car.


  • Nothing new, but found the following at the site below. Can anyone confirm the June availability ?

    2004 BMW 5 series to arrive early

    Our spies tell us that the next generation 5-series (2004 Model) is coming sooner than later...we were originally told the new car would appear next September (2003) in Frankfurt and roll in to the US in January of 2004.

    We are now told to look for the car in the spring of 2003 with availablity in the US at dealers in the June timeframe...

    The current five series will only be produced for a half a year in 2003 with production of the last vehicles ending in December/January 2002/2003 timeframe...

    The 2003 540 sport will get the same front and rear bumper treatments as the M5.

  • Has anyone got a website to see the rear view of the redesigned model? I only see the front view and cannot find a photo from the rear side. I am trying to decide whether I should get 530 before redesign or not. Hopefully not the same as 7 series. Thanks
  • snagielsnagiel Posts: 750
    There haven't been any convincing spyshots yet, only heavily clad ones and "artist renditions." There'll probably be increasingly realistic and accurate prototypes spotted by Winter and Spring, which will still give you time to buy an E39 if you choose. However, based on this:


    I'm already disappointed with the E60 design. Frankly, I think i-Drive is a good intention gone awry, and I hate this "opening" of the traditional cockpit design.

  • I'm glad that we're getting a redesign for the 5 series. The current one is kind of ugly in my opinion. This is the 21st century. I want cars that have radical new designs. I'm tired of boring, staight lines, no curves, no inspiration...bring on the new stuff! :D
  • kejacokejaco Posts: 3
    I'm not at all pleased with the direction BMW is going. I don't like the E60's looks and I really hate the new dashboard flat design. As for i-drive, I don't want it. Although the E60 may be technically superior to the E39, BMW is losing it. I'll be trading my '99 528i for an '03 530i with the intention of keeping it until BMW returns to its senses.
  • rjred1rjred1 Posts: 1
    Here is a website for the rear view of the redesigned 2004 530. You have to scroll down for a while and you will see two pictures of the 530.
  • There are 10 pictures of the 2004 5 series in autoweek. Go to, click New BMW 5 Series under PHOTO.
  • Looks like the front end of a 1994 Pontiac Grand Am!!
  • shoesshoes Posts: 131
    Did Chris Bangle used to work for Pontiac?

    I cannot believe it would be possible to ruin my favorite car. Good thing I picked up a 2002 540i.
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