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Toyota 4Runner - 2003

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  • I have heard of a few dealers painting the cladding themselves.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,690
    from a different thread is that Toyota is changing the cladding on SR5s to be body-colored with vehicles widely available in 90 days! And this report was from a dealer!

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • Is that set in stone from Toyota Central itself? Generally dealers can't get their info straight on anything.
  • I had mentioned this on another thread - can't remember which. But, yes my good friend is a Toyota dealer and his rep told him that body colored cladding would be offered in 90 days. There was a dealer/Toyota meeting in Cleveland recently, at which the topic came up. Evidently, the product isn't moving as intended. Personally, I wasn't diggin the new model all that much, but it is growing on me - don't mean to sound like I'm caving. A limited in the Titanium Silver is a nice look. I drove a Limited and it was extremely smooth and very fun to drive, which I think helped to change my opinion. That torque makes all the difference. I have an 01' Highlander that I'd like to trade in next year. V6 will be here by January. I'm dumbfounded as to why Toyota won't give you the 5 speed gear box with the V6. Doesn't it make sense? The new Volvo SUV is just the opposite - the larger engine gets a 4 speed and the smaller engine gets the 5 speed.
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,690
    the larger engine gets the 4-spd because the new specially designed 5-spd can't handle the torque of the larger engine, or something like that. Just one more case of the new globalism - getting your parts from all over, so that some only fit some configurations.

    As for me, I wish they still offered the 5 speed MANUAL in the new 4Runners. Last year you could get that I think was '99 or so.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • dmetzgerdmetzger Posts: 160
    Per articles, the 5-speed won't fit with the straight 6 motor in the engine compartment, as built now.
  • I have been too a couple of toyota dealerships and have yet to see a 4Runner with out a sunroof. Out of about 20 4Runners, mostly LTD but some SR5, all had sunroof. I need to sit in one without b/c I hit the top of my head on the roof. Surprisingly it is about the same in the Highlander, but marginally better in the RAV4, both with sunroof.

    Who knows.
  • Iv'e seen a couple without sunroof. All of them were SR5's.
  • WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF BUYING A 2003 LIMITED
    IN TITANIUM..EACH TIME ONE IS DELIVERED TO THE DEALERSHIP, THERE'S A PAINT FLAW ON
    THE HOOD!! WE'VE WAITED FOR 4 OF THEM TO COME INTO
    THE DEALER'S LOT AND EACH TIME THERE WAS SOMETHING
    WRONG WITH THE PAINT..IT'S ONLY WITH THE TITANIUM.
    OTHER DEALERS IN OUR AREA ARE HAVING THE SAME
    PROBLEM!! THIS IS THE ONLY COLOR I PREFER, TOO!
    HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED? IT'S PRETTY FRUSTRATING!
  • khaugkhaug Posts: 64
    Michelle: See my reply on the other New Toyota 2003 4Runner discussion.

    -Karl
  • khaugkhaug Posts: 64
    Hi all. Our 2003 Limited was delivered with a poorly manufactured trailer hitch drawbar (ball mount bar), which won't fit into the hitch receiver because it's .05" too big in the vertical dimension. Our sales guy says the part is on "intergalactic backorder".

    Our truck arrived with no traction control defeat switch which the owner's manual says is supposed to be just to the right of the differential lock switch on the left side of the dash. The sales guy says they're all coming in this way (Ours is a Limited 4WD V8), and that the switch described in the manual is for another market.

    Anyone have similar/different experiences?

    -Karl
  • intmed99intmed99 Posts: 485
    Khaug...you have a 4wd model, right?

    It does NOT have a TRAC OFF switch...this ONLY applies to 2wd models!!

    Your traction control system is ALWAYS on...you can read more about it on my website (you know where to find it).

    On 4wd models, you can ONLY turn off VSC by locking the center differential...i assume there is a switch for that.

    Your salesman, like 99.99% of them, are not well-versed in the 4Runner.
  • sovangsovang Posts: 56
    Karl,

    I had the same problem with my hitch, it was too big on vertical as well. Here is where it gets even more interesting, the dealer ordered me a new one and it came in 4 days later. Guess what? It had the exact same problem. The dealer got quite desperate so we went and grab a hitch from a 4runner in the lot and it worked. Oh, the hitch they ordered for me didn't fit the other 4runners on the lot either.

    I am not sure what is going on, but my guess is we will probably hear more about this issue as people actually try to use their hitch.

    SV
  • khaugkhaug Posts: 64
    Yep, 4wd. I just ran out, grabbed the manual and now see the whole "traction control" topic which begins on P. 134 pertains to 2wd models. Thanks, Thai, for setting me straight.

    Actually, my sales guy is very good - far and away the best I've dealt with. He just missed on this, and I'll forgive him that one gaffe!

    Sovang, I think it's clear that Toyota got a bad batch of hitches, or at least drawbars. Looking at the hitch receiver, I'm not exactly crazy about the workmanship it displays either. The welding looks like some of the stuff I did in junior high school shop class - two pounds of bead and one ounce of penetration. I hope they know more than I do!

    Regards,

    -Karl
  • n17n17 Posts: 6
    Hi-

    I am new to the board and looking at 2003 4runner 4WD -I am hearing Jan for V6 release ...any idea on the price and gas mileage difference between the two - V8 and V6 models? Also, it sounds as though they recommend premium fuel to obtain their estimates ..true? thanks in advance
  • The gas milage is 1mgp lower both city and highway for the v8 model. Pricing shows that the base price for the V6 is about $800 less but I would guess that they will be building them with less equipment as well, so overall price should be anywhere between $1000-$1500 less. We'll have more info when we start seeing them show up in a month or so.
  • Just got a message (which I posted on the main 4Runner board) from Toyota saying that the V6 is here and that I should check with my local dealer for availability. Now we'll really see how these puppies sell...
  • As the 4Runner is compared to other SUV's, I thought everyone may be interested in the following information from Toyota. "The measurements for the 2003 4Runner from the ground to the point of entry from the rear are 31.69 inches for the SR5 2-Wheel Drive and 31.49 inches for the SR5 4-Wheel Drive." It took me forever to get this information from Toyota.

    I have talked with over 20 Toyota dealers in states in the Southeast and Midwest. I found that the dealers were willing to sell the 4WD SR5's at small profits over invoice minus holdback. They were not willing to discount the Limited's as much. I was only interested in the Limited because of the SR5 body cladding. The best price I could negotiate on a 4WD Limited with Sunroof, 6 Disc, Floor Mats, and cigarette lighter was $35,400. The sticker price was $38,946.

    I ended up buying a 2003 4WD Ford Expedition instead of the 2003 4WD 4Runner. I got a loaded 4WD Expedition XLT for over $2,000 less than the highest price I was willing to pay on a 2003 4Runner Limited. (No Toyota dealer ever officially accepted my highest bid). Happy shopping!
  • nippononlynippononly SF Bay AreaPosts: 12,690
    a V-6 - mileage EPA figures are 17/21, as compared to 15/19 for the V-8 (both 4x4). I guess on the V-6 it managed to beat Toyota's original estimates in the actual EPA test.

    2013 Civic SI, 2009 Outback Sport 5-spd (stick)

  • Where there any other differences on the sticker or in the looks of the vehicle itself? Where did you see the V6?
  • Thinking about getting an '03 w/ Nav. Worth it? Ease/difficulty of use? Would you buy w/ it again? Any feedback greatly appreciated!
  • wwestwwest Posts: 10,706
    I will neevr again be guilty of buying a non-competitive "captive" nav system.
  • I have had my 2003 Limited 4Runner since 10/20/02 and it is the nicest SUV no vehicle I have ever owned and I have had 14 new cars including a 2001 Vette. You will not be disappointed as it is a huge step up from my 98 4ruuner. Except one thing!!! Gas mileage sucks!
    The Sticker states 15-19 well I have squeezed out 15.7 just once and average 13.5-14.5 over combined highway and urban driving. Even with full highway the best I can hope for is 15-16 (if I put on cruise at 65MPH)
    Anyone else doing better? I am calling Toyota to ask what is up with the poor MPG.

    Doc
  • This is the same engine as in the landcruiser. I get between 12-14 on the cruiser which is slightly less than the 4runner due to it being a heavier vehicle. Get used to it.
  • morrymorry Posts: 24
    I just bought a new 4Runner last night. I have been looking at the Sequoia for 2 years and was finally ready to purchase it. When I went to the dealer on Wednesday, I hapenend to see the new 4Runner. Oh, what a feeling! I gave it a test drive and fell in love. Yesterday, I went back (after price researching) and looked again. Two and one half hours later I signed the papers. Because I wanted navigation, they had to locate me one. Evidently, there are none in our region so they went to another. I will pick it up next week.

    Although my family is happy for me, they can't truly appreciate what I am feeling like all of you can. I am so excited that I almost can't wait. After it comes in and I have driven it for a while, I'll let you all know my thoughts.

    Happy and healthy holidays to all!
  • tfuzztfuzz Posts: 93
    My overall mileage at 4,828 miles is 16.553 mpg. Highest was 19.2
    Lowest was 13.7

    That is with a V8 4WD and 87 octane gas. Driving has been a mix of city and highway, but with more highway driving.

    I will be switching to Mobil 1 synthetic oil in a few hundred miles. I hope that will increase the mpg slightly, but I doubt it will make much, if any, difference.

    I find this mpg acceptable, but would really like to get closer to 20. I figure getting about 3 mpg higher would save me about $250/year (for 20,000 miles). Personally, I would be willing to trade a little horsepower/torque for a little better mileage--at least when I am not towing my trailer. Too bad they can't put in a switch to toggle between higher mpg and higher power!
  • jbhncjbhnc Posts: 16
    I have been getting ~17 in city driving and ~22 on the highway (typically ~70mph with cruise on) on a V8 LTD 4x4.

    Running premium and midgrade (can't tell a difference). I did put synthetic in it, no significant MPG difference but I am a firm believer it will be better for the engine in the long run.

    BTW: Get to take bang my new 'runner around the mtns next week. Can't wait to see how it holds up compared to my old Disco on some trails...hope its muddy!

    - J
  • morrymorry Posts: 24
    Can someone please tell me what the port installed option DK is? Also, can daytime running lights be installed at the dealer. Is it just a module or simple install? Would it be the same as a factory order?

    Thanks!
  • mjohnr99mjohnr99 Posts: 193
    It's a "folder," worth no more than $10.
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